Pro Bowl fan voting SURPRISE!

[Jerry Tagge]

By that logic, Des howard gave reggie and Brett theirs rings, right?

I don't remember the refs ever giving Favre a title?

Tell me, if the refs don't call the tuck rule, who wins the game? Oakland runs out the clock.

Apples and oranges. Your logic makes no sense as usual.

[b bulldog]

57-41-6 Michigan leads the series I guess of 51 wins must have been gimmees by the refs

[Jerry Tagge]

Answer my question Tagge, who has beaten who more??

I don't know what happened in 1891 and I really don't care.

I know whenever I watch Michigan play Ohio State the Buckeyes always win.

You should post your man love for Rich Rodriguez. He's the next coach to get owned by Tressel.

[Jerry Tagge]

57-41-6 Michigan leads the series I guess of 51 wins must have been gimmees by the refs

You keep believing the refs didn't give Brady that game. The rest of the world knows the truth. This includes your boyfriend old Tuck Rule Brady himself.

Worst call in the history of sports.

[b bulldog]

I actually agree with that. The tuck rule sucks but it is the rule.

[b bulldog]

Does Coach Cooper ring any bells?

[BallHawk]

pARTIAL, Hawk had better numbers last season, this season, Sims haS CLEARLY BETTER NUMBERS. Now their is Hawk apologists and he has done nothing to deserve them.

This has been said countless times, but I'll say it again: Sims is playing on one of the worst defenses in the league. Hawk is playing on a top 15, arguably top 10 defense.

Hawk is playing next to Pro-Bowler to be Nick Barnett. Simms is playing with Paris Lenon, I guy that couldn't even make our team.

Simms is a phenomenally talented player and he's a joy to watch, but stats in this case are meaningless. Right now, Hawk is doing his job on a winning defense. That's the biggest factor.

[Deputy Nutz]

Does Coach Cooper ring any bells?

Nicest guy in the world.

Did you two fucks catch the piece on Michigan and Ohio St. on HBO? Made me cry like a baby, especially when sick old Woody came to a ceremony for his good friend Bo, and stood for a half hour on gimpy legs and gave a heart warming speech about his greatest rival in the game, in the end he called Bo his best friend.

Anyways, I have been a long time fan of Michigan, but I do like Jim Tressel, hell I really like Big Ten football, Hell I even like Tom Brady. Anyways Richie "the Hot Rod" Rodriguez brings hope back to Michigan, hope that Lloyd Carr crushed year after year, get hire, considering they pulled it out of their ass.

[HarveyWallbangers]

This just in: A.J. Hawk is a really good player. Bobby Carpenter and Anthony Schlegel are not. Jim Laurinitis is somewhere in between.

[ND72]

Rocky plays on a solid D and has better numbers also than Hawk Actually, most good lb's have better numbers than Hawk so maybe stats shouldn't count

While I'm not fighting or arguing over stats...they do play different positions, on different defenses. I hate comparing players based on numbers. If you're gonna compare numbers find the numbers between Denver's weakside LB & Hawk, cause they play the same position in same defensive schemes. That's a true comparision. Our defense is designed to funnel to the MLB, Barnett should have top numbers.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Hawk is definitely playing above average football and all because he doesn't have the stats doesn't mean he's not playing great. He’s doing what is asked of him, things I don’t think many other linebackers in the league would even be asked to do. If Hawk goes to the probowl I think it is well deserved.

[Jerry Tagge]

The Pro Bowl is a popularity contest. If Hawk gets in, this totally proves it.

If AJ Hawk went to Michigan he'd be the greatest LB in the game today.

Why don't you tell us how Rob Lytle is better than Barry Sanders or how Jamie Morris is better LaDanian Tomlinson.

[Partial]

Dude you're far more annoying than BB

[Zool]

I disagree. JT is so over the top, its like Cosmo Kramer walking in the door every time he posts. I personally love reading your stuff Jerry so matter what Incomplete says.

[Merlin]

Re: Pro Bowl fan voting SURPRISE!

I believe there are people in this forum that owe me an apology. AJ Hawk is not deserving of the pro-bowl this year, nor is Brian Urlacher. What did I say about media hype? Fan vote definitely went that way. If Hawk makes the pro-bowl, will those of you who jumped all over me suck it up and apologize? I am not holding my breath.

Sorry Merlin...

I don't see where this is media hype. Where has Hawk been hyped in the media?

This is because of 2 things...the vast Packer nation throwing support behind their guys, and the vast Buckeye nation throwing their support behind their guys. The Columbus Dispatch posts a segment in the paper every Monday morning about how every former Buckeye did that week in their NFL games. The Buckeye nation keeps a close eye on past favorites after they move on to the next level.

It isn't just coincidence that when Ohio State and Green Bay are both having success this year, a recent popular Buckeye on the Packers gets a lot of fan votes. More of their fans are cruising around the internet looking for info on their teams, and are more likely to surf past NFL.com and put in a vote for their players.

I won't go back and dig up the thread. AJ Hawk had a shit ton of hype last year. I said it would translate into votes this year and it did. But go ahead and keep on thinking you have the answer and thinking what I said before and now is total BS. If AJ Hawk had no media hype last year, no way he gets the votes this year, Packer fans, Buckeye fans or otherwise.