i was stunned when he did it. it had a small amount of risk but it worked out fine. dallas was toast either way.
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There was no risk at all. As soon as he went down, the game was over because all they had to do was kneel on it. It was the best possible move if the goal was to win the game (which I believe it was).Originally posted by gbgaryit had a small amount of risk but it worked out fine.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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There is always a risk that McNabb could fumble the snap and the 'Boys could somehow score a TD. However, that risk is no greater, probably smaller, than the Cowboys scoring a TD, recovering an onside kick, and then scoring again.Originally posted by JustinHarrellThere was no risk at all. As soon as he went down, the game was over because all they had to do was kneel on it. It was the best possible move if the goal was to win the game (which I believe it was).Originally posted by gbgaryit had a small amount of risk but it worked out fine.
Bottomline, it was a great play. I remember a player did it in a college game last year. I believe it was either in the WAC or the Pac 10."I've got one word for you- Dallas, Texas, Super Bowl"- Jermichael Finley
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Doing that showed class. He showed his coaches that he can be trusted to listen to what they say to do, not what he would of wanted to do.
In this season full of the pilling on shit from bellacheat, it was one of the most refreshing plays i've seen in many a year.The Bottom Line:
Formally Numb, same person, same views of M3
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or it means "we are going to win and you cant do anything about it, cowfags" to me, eagles already played football like men for 58 min and proved that they were the better team that day.Originally posted by SkinBasketI loved the thought behind the play, that a player could still be so selfless in this day of TO and Eli and Moss. I hate the play though.
To me it says, "We know we're the inferior team and instead of playing football and beating you like men, we're going to play keep away for the last two minutes because we're deathly afraid of you."
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exactly! the top high-school championships here in texas was decided on a fumbled kneel-down. the mighty southlake carroll dragons, #2 h.s. team in the nation, i believe, lost it.Originally posted by BallHawkThere is always a risk that McNabb could fumble the snap...Originally posted by JustinHarrellThere was no risk at all. As soon as he went down, the game was over because all they had to do was kneel on it. It was the best possible move if the goal was to win the game (which I believe it was).Originally posted by gbgaryit had a small amount of risk but it worked out fine.
they were going to kneel down and let the clock run to 2 seconds and kick the game winning field goal.
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I think he should have sat down there, knelt 3 times and then ran a qb sneak on the last play when they least expected it. Would've been more fun and even if they'd fumbled it, they were up by more than a score so it would have been too late to watch Romo do much more to embarrass himself anyway."Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings
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I think people who feel Westbrook made the wrong move are probably the same people who yell "coward!" whenever a head coach tells his kicker not to kick to Devin Hester.Originally posted by RastakOriginally posted by SkinBasketI loved the thought behind the play, that a player could still be so selfless in this day of TO and Eli and Moss. I hate the play though.
To me it says, "We know we're the inferior team and instead of playing football and beating you like men, we're going to play keep away for the last two minutes because we're deathly afraid of you."
Huh? So every kneel down is wrong also? Of course you run down the clock when you can. You DON'T run a pick back when the team has no timeouts.
I'm definately missing the point here Skin......Always respect your opponent, even when you're kicking the crap outta him.
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Every snap in the NFL is guaranteed to not be fumbled right? Like everything else in football, nothing is 100% guaranteed.Originally posted by JustinHarrellIt increased their chances of winning from 97% to 100%. After he did that, all they had to do was kneel on it. The game was over. It was John Runyun who told him to do it. He told him in the huddle and then he was screaming for him to get down during the play. It was selfless by westbrook, but it was brilliant for Runyun to think it up. Even the coach looked suprised."Once the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the Republic.”
– Benjamin Franklin
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A. The chances of an NFL QB fumbling the snap are rather remote...especially if you factor in that weather was not a problem and that it wasn't a QB replacement scenario.Originally posted by BallHawkThere is always a risk that McNabb could fumble the snap and the 'Boys could somehow score a TD.
B. The chances of any fumble actually being returned for a TD is exponentially that much smaller.
C. The Cowboys have ALREADY WON A GAME THIS YEAR precisely the way they would have needed to tie Philly had Westbrook scored...score a TD in under 2:00, recover an onside kick, kick a FG. Perhaps you missed their comeback against Buffalo???
The bottom line is that Westbrook's decision was 100% correct...anyone arguing otherwise has no logical basis to build on. Claiming you shouldn't do it because you might fumble the snap is ridiculous.
By taking a knee, Westbrook essentially ensured his team a 99.9% chance of victory. If he had scored, the chance would have been less...although admittedly not significantly so...maybe just 99.5%.My signature has NUDITY in it...whatcha gonna do?
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Originally posted by The LeaperThe inferior team on Sunday was the one with 6 points on the scoreboard Skin. If the Cowboys were the better team, they could've prevented Westbrook from getting a first down and gotten that ball back in a conventional manner.
That's kinda the fucking point. The Eagles were the superior team. Problem is, sitting down at the one to run out the clock instead of going up two scores and playing the rest of the game demonstrates that they didn't feel they were the superior team. It shows they were afraid of Dallas and didn't have the confidence in their own team that they could stop the Cowboys from scoring 11 points in under two minutes with no timeouts."You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial
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No.Originally posted by SkinBasketIt shows they were afraid of Dallas and didn't have the confidence in their own team that they could stop the Cowboys from scoring 11 points in under two minutes with no timeouts.
It shows that Philly had the ability to prevent Dallas from ever touching the ball again...because they COULD.
So who is truly the bitch?My signature has NUDITY in it...whatcha gonna do?
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You are missing the point, actually. It's not about running out the clock with kneel downs (which by the way are also pussy), it about playing like the superior team that they were that night, not like a team that felt they had somehow escaped with a win.Originally posted by RastakHuh? So every kneel down is wrong also? Of course you run down the clock when you can. You DON'T run a pick back when the team has no timeouts.
I'm definately missing the point here Skin......
I just think it was a pussy move that showed little or no confidence in their team and only improved their chances of winning by an infinitesimal margin."You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial
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