Roger Clemens and steroids

[Kiwon]

Conviction by body language.

Maybe the guy is guilty but that can't be determined by this pseudo science. Body language experts are the head bump readers of the 21th Century, IMHO.

Here's ESPN's version of this crock.

http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/video/videopage?videoId=3245804&categoryId=2521705&n8pe6c=2

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Conviction by body language.

Maybe the guy is guilty but that can't be determined by this pseudo science. Body language experts are the head bump readers of the 21th Century, IMHO.

Here's ESPN's version of this crock.

http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/...21705&n8pe6c=2

Yet, I have never seen you complain once about O'reilly who does this weekly.

Take off the blinders.

[esoxx]

Conviction by body language.

Maybe the guy is guilty but that can't be determined by this pseudo science. Body language experts are the head bump readers of the 21th Century, IMHO.

Here's ESPN's version of this crock.

http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/...21705&n8pe6c=2

I don't think this can be simply dismissed as a crock. Body language and "tells" quite certainly occur. Maybe it's because you believe your hero didn't take steroids and want to dismiss anything that would shed even more bad light on him to be dismissed as mertiless.

I've been in seminars w/ former FBI folks about interrogation tatics, body language and tell signs. They're very real.

[twoseven]

Conviction by body language.

Maybe the guy is guilty but that can't be determined by this pseudo science. Body language experts are the head bump readers of the 21th Century, IMHO.

Here's ESPN's version of this crock.

http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/...21705&n8pe6c=2

I don't think this can be simply dismissed as a crock. Body language and "tells" quite certainly occur. Maybe it's because you believe your hero didn't take steroids and want to dismiss anything that would shed even more bad light on him to be dismissed as mertiless.

I've been in seminars w/ former FBI folks about interrogation tatics, body language and tell signs. They're very real.

Christopher Walken as Vincenzo Coccotti interrogating Dennis Hopper as Cliff Worley in True Romance..

Coccotti: 'Sicilians are great liars. The best in the world. I'm a Sicilian. And my old man was the world heavyweight champion of Sicilian liars. And from growin' up with him I learned the pantomime. Now there are seventeen different things a guy can do when he lies to give him away. A guy has seventeen pantomimes. A woman's got twenty, but a guy's got seventeen. And if you know 'em like ya know your own face, they beat lie detectors to hell. What we got here is a little game of show and tell. You don't wanna show me nothin'. But you're tellin' me everything. Now I know you know where they are. So tell me, before I do some damage you won't walk away from.'

[Tyrone Bigguns]

twoseven,

You're part eggplant!

[Kiwon]

Conviction by body language.

Maybe the guy is guilty but that can't be determined by this pseudo science. Body language experts are the head bump readers of the 21th Century, IMHO.

Here's ESPN's version of this crock.

http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/...21705&n8pe6c=2

Yet, I have never seen you complain once about O'reilly who does this weekly.

Take off the blinders.

TB,

There is a Fox cable channel but there is no Fox News in Korea. Besides, I'm not a Bill O'Reilly fan. I know his body language segments are popular but I still think its a pseudo science. They broadcast those segments strictly for ratings, not for the intrinsic value.
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Essox,

Did you watch the ESPN clip and listen to the lady's opinions? - "He wrinkled his nose when he spoke about pitching for Team USA which indicates anger towards the country" or some such nonsense as that.

Certainly there are non-verbal clues to behavior but who defines just what they are and what they mean? It's completely subjective.

The FBI once used their personality profile skills and nailed the infamous Richard Jewel in the Atlanta Olympics bombing. The man saved people's lives but the "experts" fingered him as the prime suspect. They trashed his life, incorrectly, and then made amends by sending him a letter telling him that he was no longer a suspect. Gee, thanks. "But, he fit the profile....." according to whom?

For everyone who buys into the credibility of "body language experts" I bet there are three "experts" that can ably discredit them. There are plenty of people walking the streets that have done all kinds of bad things that are indiscernible through their everyday actions and demeanor.

Not all good actors live in Hollywood or New York, you know.

Now, TB, Esoxx, I want to know your blood types and whether your second and fourth fingers on each hand are exactly the same lengths. I'm going to analyze your personalities for free and explain why you choose the avatars that you did.

Those who determine personality by blood type and finger lengths are in the same categories of credibility I'd place many, not all, but many of these "body language experts."

And if Clemens is legally guilty, so be it. But putting him on trial in the court of public opinion with this fad, pseudo science is unfair IMHO.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Conviction by body language.

Maybe the guy is guilty but that can't be determined by this pseudo science. Body language experts are the head bump readers of the 21th Century, IMHO.

Here's ESPN's version of this crock.

http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/...21705&n8pe6c=2

Yet, I have never seen you complain once about O'reilly who does this weekly.

Take off the blinders.

TB,

There is a Fox cable channel but there is no Fox News in Korea. Besides, I'm not a Bill O'Reilly fan. I know his body language segments are popular but I still think its a pseudo science. They broadcast those segments strictly for ratings, not for the intrinsic value.
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Wow. You really backpedal quickly. You may think it is psuedo science, but in no way does O'reilly present it that way. And, by no way does the audience take it as just for the ratings. Your assertation is ridiculous. Are you telling me that viewers tune in just for that segment and then leave? LOL

[twoseven]

twoseven,

You're part eggplant!

'You're a cantaloupe.'

Bang, Bang, Bang, Bang.

'I haven't killed anyone since 1984.'

[Tyrone Bigguns]

twoseven,

You're part eggplant!

'You're a cantaloupe.'

Bang, Bang, Bang, Bang.

'I haven't killed anyone since 1984.'

Twoseven, do I look like a beautiful blonde with big tits and an ass that tastes like French vanilla ice cream?

[twoseven]

twoseven,

You're part eggplant!

'You're a cantaloupe.'

Bang, Bang, Bang, Bang.

'I haven't killed anyone since 1984.'

Twoseven, do I look like a beautiful blonde with big tits and an ass that tastes like French vanilla ice cream?

No, you look like Dave Chappelle.