If the republicans learned one thing here, I think it's that they better start finding some more anti abortion, pro tax cut, evangelicals because the pro abortion mormons just don't cut it in a republican primarys.
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Originally posted by Tyrone BiggunsShe is a SHIM. I could see ya doing it. Close you eyes and she could be a guy.Originally posted by Harlan HucklebyI would.Originally posted by Tyrone BiggunsI wouldn't even grudge fuck that bitch.
Originally posted by 3irty1This is museum quality stupidity.
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Well, this is an important stance for him to take as a candidate, since so many people were viewing him, at least until recently, as ideal VP material.Originally posted by Freak OutI have heard Obama say more than once that he would NEVER be a VP on Clinton's ticket. He could change his mind with a little persuasion but I think it's pretty doubtful.
I think Hillary Clinton should state: "I would give strong consideration to being on a ticket with Barak in either position." (note: they are friends now, on first name basis
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Now, most people would say this is crazy. It gives her supporters permission to vote for OBama with the reassurance that they can have the old girl in the bag too. I don't suppose any candidate has ever said something like this before the race was decided.
But I think it would work to her favor, this is an EXTREMELY unusual election. Most Democrats think very highly of both candidates. There would be a surge of good will in her direction. And Obama would be under great pressure to signify his willingness to yeild to the wishes of the party as well.
Damn, if Hillary would just hire me, I could take her, I mean us, right to the top!
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Is Obama going to take a slim lead after all the data is in after Tuesday? That would be a little shocking but with all the people I saw out here in Alaska last night it would not surprise me. It was cold (-12) and I have never seen more people out for a caucus. He can pull a crowd that's for sure.C.H.U.D.
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No one who is still running is pushing nationalization of health care. Kucinich was the only one calling for a single-payer system. What Clinton is proposing now is not what she tried to push through in 1993.Originally posted by JustinHarrellNationalized health care is the liberal issue of today. Turning 10-15% of the economy over to the govt is a bigger deal than anything Ann Coulter's little tirade was based in.
conservatives will come around. They're doing everything they can to get a true blue, but since the winner isn't one, they'll come around.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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It doesn't matter what people think. If Obama wants to be president, his best chance IMO is to wait it out. Riding someone else's coattails might not be a good idea...especially if the other person doesn't do very well.Originally posted by Harlan HucklebyWell, this is an important stance for him to take as a candidate, since so many people were viewing him, at least until recently, as ideal VP material.
In 4 or 8 years, he will still be a top candidate...and a likely favorite...even if he isn't a VP. He also eliminates any potential to be dragged down by circumstances that are mostly out of his control as a VP. VPs also are notoriously absent from public view...Senators typically have far more access to the media and publicity.My signature has NUDITY in it...whatcha gonna do?
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JH, we're the only developed country in the world that doesn't offer health care to its citizens. Its not a fantastic idea.Originally posted by JustinHarrellThe liberals are just lying low right now. Wait till the general comes around. They will be pimping their "health care for all" cause at an alarming rate.
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Originally posted by The LeaperIt doesn't matter what people think. If Obama wants to be president, his best chance IMO is to wait it out.Originally posted by Harlan HucklebyWell, this is an important stance for him to take as a candidate, since so many people were viewing him, at least until recently, as ideal VP material.
doesn't matter what people think? That's all that matters to a politician.
I agree that a VP position is not the best career advancement position for him. But its hardly a dead end, either.
I don't think the choice of a vice-president makes a huge deal in terms of electability. I think Obama should consider Clinton because she will serve him well in office.
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The problems with the health care system are so wide spread that I doubt anything the libs do will fix it.
The extremely poor get health care through state programs already. We all pay for the poorest of the poor.
It's the lower/middle who have jobs but the job might offer extremely pricey health care who suffer. Maybe they can't afford their bills so they take a risk and cut out health coverage. They make too much to get it free, but not enough to live in their Milwaukee home and pay healthcare at the same time. They end up getting Hodgekins cancer. The doctor says you should be recovered within a year so you don't qualify for any type of disabled health care. You end up racking up $150,000 in bills. You cannot pay it. You either file bankruptsy and start yoru life over or you pay $5.00 per month and the hospital never gets it's money back. You think that was free treatment? No, it was not. The people who pay for it are those who pay for health insurance. The bills that acctually do get paid cover teh bills of those who do not get paid.
In the end, the poor get all the health care they need without giving up anything right now. It's the hard workign lower/middle class that sacrafices and then when they sacrafice too much, they pass the price on to everyone who can afford insurance and the bill ends up getting split anyway.
Ultimately, I don't think it's going to get cheaper for the middle class unless they find a way to put a tax curve on it and take more from the rich rather than splitting it evenly (the way it gets split between the payers now by passing on unpaid bills). If they do that, it's going to piss off the top 1% and it's really not going to make the industry any more efficiant or affordable (it's just going to adjust the way it's paid by takign money from doctors, lawyers, and some buisnessmen). The richest of the rich will find a way to avoid it, so it's just going to take from those who really worked hard to get where they are.
I think the ultimate answer is finding a way to make higher competition to drive prices down. I'm OK with a new system of paying, but along with the system has to come some solutions to the inefficiencies of the industry so it ends up saving everyone money.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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