How Voters Think

[RashanGary]

If they break into my house and pose any risk to my family I will blow them away.

I agree. I've seen too many families raped and killed in their own home on the discovery channel special about serial rapists and killers. Last night my wife thought she heard something. I got up, got my gun out and went to load it when I realized when my brother borrowed my rifle, he forgot to return the bullets with it. I felt really unsafe all of a sudden. I did have a 22 oz framing hammer, but that doesn't stop a serial killer/rapist with a gun. He'd shoot me and then have his way iwth my wife and kids. It's sick, but that shit happens.

Robbers better beware, because there are houses with pissed off homeowners just waiting with their rifles and most of the other ones probably have amunition.

[b bulldog]

I own 5 rifles, 2 shotguns, 1 muzzleloader and 1 pistol and I keep them all locked in my safe, which means I would probably never even have a chance at getting them out to defend my family, if I would have to. That being said, one of the best things you can do would be to go to your local Cabela's and buy a can of bear stopper. This is like mace or pepper spray that many guides in Bear country use. If it will stop a grizzly, it will stop any man.

[RashanGary]

Is it legal to shoot someone who breaks into your house if they are trying to attack you but havn't acctually attacked you yet?

Yes.

From what I understand, case law says that if you feel threatened during a break in that you can do what is necessary (within reason) to defend yourself. The court, being aware of rapes and killiings of both the spontaneous and planned variety recognizes an individual who breaks into yoru home as an instant threat. If the person is running away with his back to you, I'm sure it's illegal as all hell but my understanding is that if you feel your life is threatened and your story of what happened portrays a real risk or reason to fear, you have every right to pop off a bullet and if it hits the right spot, dead man tell no lie or truth.

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I own 5 rifles, 2 shotguns, 1 muzzleloader and 1 pistol and I keep them all locked in my safe, which means I would probably never even have a chance at getting them out to defend my family, if I would have to. That being said, one of the best things you can do would be to go to your local Cabela's and buy a can of bear stopper. This is like mace or pepper spray that many guides in Bear country use. If it will stop a grizzly, it will stop any man.

Do you know what this is brah? This is the mace they use on bears faggot!!

[RashanGary]

I'm going to get a safe some day and I'll keep a loaded pistol in it. It will be in my bedroom. I'll have the combo almost complete except for the last number. I'll then pop it open, grab my gun and go from soon to be shot victim to a person capable of defending themself.

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Can someone please tell me what exactly Barack Obama has done?!?

[RashanGary]

I might get some bear stopper for my wife. She could never shoot an animal, let alone a person. I think she'd be a real bitch with a can of bear stopper though.

[Scott Campbell]

Can someone please tell me what exactly Barack Obama has done?!?

He pissed off Harlan, and that might just be enough for me.

[Scott Campbell]

You did not propose a flat tax. You proposed a flat tax RATE.

There's a big difference.

OK.

I wasn't aware there was such a thing as a "flat tax" that didn't refer to rate. Like everybody in the kingdom ponies-up $1000 in taxes.

This is a proposal one might hear from the Constitutional Party that Partial recently sang praises of. The Libertarians essentially want to take the country back to pre-New Deal era. The Constitutional Party won't hear of this, they think the Government should operate like back in 1840.

I'm worried about that boy. I'm afraid one day we're going to read about Partial living in some sect in West Virginia, with a leader with two names, "Billy Ray" or something, where they shoot any county officials that try and approach their compound.

I'm not proposing anything all that revolutionary. I have no problem paying more tax than you. It's just a matter of how much. I want a quantity discount, just like every American gets when they buy the family sized 55 gallon drum of Tide at Costco. There needs to be incentive for me to work more and continue to contribute tax base for you to feed off of. Otherwise I'll just retire and clip coupons. And then you little greedy bastards will get zero. At the highest progressive tax rates, you barely get to keep 50% of the money you earn. At that rate I become very inclined to say it's just not worth it, and I've got enough.

[MJZiggy]

I'm going to get a safe some day and I'll keep a loaded pistol in it. It will be in my bedroom. I'll have the combo almost complete except for the last number. I'll then pop it open, grab my gun and go from soon to be shot victim to a person capable of defending themself.

JH, are you trained in using that loaded pistol? Do you practice shooting? If you keep a loaded pistol in your bedroom with the safe dial set one number from opening, how are you gonna keep your kids from accidentally hitting the right number, opening the safe and finding a loaded gun to play with? You've seen the reports on home invasions, have you seen the ones about the kids shooting each other with their parents' guns? The parents usually thought the kids couldn't get at the weapons until they had already played cops and robbers with them.

From the NEA: http://www.neahin.org/programs/schoo...statistics.htm

In a single year, 3,012 children and teens were killed by gunfire in the United States, according to the latest national data released in 2002. That is one child every three hours; eight children every day; and more than 50 children every week. And every year, at least 4 to 5 times as many kids and teens suffer from non-fatal firearm injuries. (Children's Defense Fund and National Center for Health Statistics)

From the Brady campaign:

http://www.bradycampaign.org/issues/gunrisks/riskinhome/

The stories in this one are really sad...

Simply put: guns kept in the home for self-protection are more often used to kill somebody you know than to kill in self-defense; 22 times more likely, according to a 1998 study by the Journal of Trauma.2

More kids, teenagers and adult family members are dying from firearms in their own home than criminal intruders. When someone is home, a gun is used for protection in fewer than two percent of home invasion crimes.3 You may be surprised to know that, in 1999, according to the FBI's Uniform Crime Report, there were only 154 justifiable homicides committed by private citizens with a firearm compared with a total of 8,259 firearm murders in the United States. Once a bullet leaves a gun, who is to say that it will stop only a criminal and not a family member?

Just think it through.

[BallHawk]

Can someone please tell me what exactly Barack Obama has done?!?

To be honest, I don't think the Obama campaign themselves could tell you what Obama has done, at least of any significance.

The Obama campaign has done a great job making something out of very little. This campaign has been built around Obama himself, not his stance on the issues or his effectiveness as a political figure, but on how he talks and his likeability.

So, to answer your question, Obama has done jack-squat.

[SkinBasket]

Yes, I am the only person who is stealing your tax dollars. It was also my choice for them to give out rebate checks. You truly are an idiot. You and Tyrone are perfect for one another. He would even work so you can stay at home!

Milwaukee is a terrible city loaded with crime. How can anyone in their right mind dispute this?!? It's so bad that the police to do not even come if you call in stating someone broke into your house. Believe me, my father has had to do it on multiple occasions.

You're the only one here stealing my tax dollars while advocating a more fair tax system while also trying to get out of paying every cent he can on his tax return with the rest of his life already paid for in full. Maybe you should use that free money from the government to start your campaign to stop free government handouts. You'd be like the Robin Hood of Stupidity.

No one is disputing Milwaukee has crime. We're disputing that you have any fucking clue what you're talking about. And it's really not that hard to do. Make sure to rest your tootsies real good today, I'm sure you've got lots of loafing - I mean working and studying and judging to do tomorrow. That and you still have to decide how to spend my money. Maybe some lifts for your shoes, no?

And for fucks sake do not get a gun. Ever. You are the case study of why people shouldn't buy guns for home protection.

[SkinBasket]

I'm going to get a safe some day and I'll keep a loaded pistol in it. It will be in my bedroom. I'll have the combo almost complete except for the last number. I'll then pop it open, grab my gun and go from soon to be shot victim to a person capable of defending themself.

JH, are you trained in using that loaded pistol?

I thought he was kidding at first. When I reread his post, I realized he probably wasn't. I love guns and fully advocate gun ownership and responsible use, but I cannot believe people, with kids no less, still think like this.

[MJZiggy]

I'm going to get a safe some day and I'll keep a loaded pistol in it. It will be in my bedroom. I'll have the combo almost complete except for the last number. I'll then pop it open, grab my gun and go from soon to be shot victim to a person capable of defending themself.

JH, are you trained in using that loaded pistol?

I thought he was kidding at first. When I reread his post, I realized he probably wasn't. I love guns and fully advocate gun ownership and responsible use, but I cannot believe people, with kids no less, still think like this.

Hence my post, though I'm not convinced he will read it much less click on THE LINKS THAT WILL GIVE HIM VALUABLE INFORMATION ON GUN OWNERSHIP IN HOMES WITH CHILDREN!!

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Can someone please tell me what exactly Barack Obama has done?!?

To be honest, I don't think the Obama campaign themselves could tell you what Obama has done, at least of any significance.

The Obama campaign has done a great job making something out of very little. This campaign has been built around Obama himself, not his stance on the issues or his effectiveness as a political figure, but on how he talks and his likeability.

So, to answer your question, Obama has done jack-squat.

So you're willing to vote for someone who has done nothing. Nice. Go figure.