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  • #91
    Originally posted by MadtownPacker
    Originally posted by CyclonePackFan
    I eat steak to get the power of the soul of the cow, and I do have many dreams about drinking the blood of my enemies...

    Just Kidding!

    I don't go for rare, but the general rule of thumb is to order steak medium rare and burgers medium well (the ground beef is more likely to have a greater number of cysts, etc, stuff that you don't really want alive when you eat it)

    My primary reason for ordering medium rare is simple. If it tastes too raw, you can always have them throw it back on for another minute or two. Get it overdone, and you're just a jackass for asking for another steak. However, the medium rare is more tender and has more flavor, it seems like steaks that are above medium have no flavor (and beget the need for A1) and are way too chewy.
    Yup, serial killer for sure.

    I would like to try it but man, it looks so damn bloody. With all this ecoli and madtowncow disease going on I guess I am just paranoid. It is also a culture thing I guess cuz I dont recall any Mexican dishes using raw or nearly raw beef.

    What kind of steaks do you guys recommmend for trying to practice with on the grill? I dont wanna buy the $$$ cuts just to mess them up. Im kinda still learning to grill stuff.

    Does anyone use one of these? Its what I have. It cooks real slow. Any tips or recipes are appreciated.


    Best cut to "practice" on is a top sirloin, in my opinion. They are thinner cuts with some marbeling, but not excessive.

    Take a meat tenderizer (the mallet not the powder) and use the wide edge to beat it and breakdown the fibers a bit. Don't hit it like your trying to mince it, just "loosen it up" a bit.

    Then in one of those super large ziplock bag, mix together extra virgin olive oil, kansas city steak seasoning and one or two cap fulls of teriyaki. Mix just enough that all the steaks cut coated.

    Throw the steaks in with the marinade and zip up, shake it so all sides are coated and put in the fridge for an hour, mixing the bag again at 1/2 hour.

    Now, the key. Make sure the fire is the right temp. TOO HOT and it will torch the meat and not hot enough will take forever too cook and dry the meat out.

    BTW, GROVE charcoal is the best but it BURNS VERY HOT, so you dont need a lot.

    After the fire is ready, glowing red coals, get your bags, mix up one more time and lay the steaks on the grill. After a minute, use tongs to lift then lay down again. DO NOT FLIP. This helps keep them from sticking.

    You should only flip a steak once! AFter flipped, the meat will be close to done when the blood starts to escape the seared top.

    Like someone else said, the meat is still cooking when you pull it off the grill so if you like M, then pull it when it looks MR as it will be M by them time you get it too the table.

    BTW, a great side is foil potatoes:

    Lay down a double sheet of foil, throw a gob of butter on the bottom, then put diced potatoes and carrots, sliced onion and cherry tomatoes. Season with a three pepper Lowry's seasoning, throw another gob of butter, then fold up the long sides and crimp at the top. Now fold up the ends so that the veggies are in a foil carry bag. Lay them on the grill and dont flip. You can use tongs to grap the foil handles at each end. Make sure the foil is sealed good. THe steam cooks the food. Takes about 1/2 hour to cook.

    GREAT STUFF

    PS: Open fire, oak wood is the only way to grill.

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    • #92
      Thanks Sparkey. I will try that. I want to learn how to cook myself so I can further prove that men only need women for one thing.

      I was gonna ask about marinated. I like the sound of mix you mentioned. Is that Grove charcoal only in WI?

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      • #93
        Originally posted by MadtownPacker
        Thanks Sparkey. I will try that. I want to learn how to cook myself so I can further prove that men only need women for one thing.

        I was gonna ask about marinated. I like the sound of mix you mentioned. Is that Grove charcoal only in WI?
        I think so. I do believe Piggly Wiggly carries it. BTW, Grove charcoal is made in Cedar Grove and it is all hard wood.

        As far as the marinade. How much depends on how many steaks. Usually about a 1/4 cup of olive oil, two tabelspoons of Kansas City seaosning and two teaspoons of teriyaki. (Any good soy sauce will work)

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        • #94
          Originally posted by Sparkey
          I think so. I do believe Piggly Wiggly carries it. BTW, Grove charcoal is made in Cedar Grove and it is all hard wood.

          As far as the marinade. How much depends on how many steaks. Usually about a 1/4 cup of olive oil, two tabelspoons of Kansas City seaosning and two teaspoons of teriyaki. (Any good soy sauce will work)
          Guess Im SOL on the coal cuz Im in Cali.

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          • #95
            Beings we are talking grillling
            Try this out sometime

            BULGOGI:

            Get a couple of nice rib eyes and slcie into thin strips
            marinade in bulgogi mixture a good couple hours and grill
            Note; by the time you lay all the strips out, start turning the firts ones layed down, it cooks in minutes)

            marinade

            2 1/2 tbsp. sugar
            4 tbsp. minced green onion
            2 tsp. minced garlic
            1 tsp. minced ginger root
            2 tbsp. ground sesame seed
            Dash of pepper
            4 tbsp. soy sauce
            2 tbsp. sesame seed oil

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            • #96
              I don't know much about marinade ....only used a package type a few times, but I always thought vinegar was a key ingredient in a marinade to tenderize the meat? Am I dreaming this or is that true?

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              • #97
                for steaks on the grill, I highly recommend a marinade by jack Daniels. It's in a bag, it's called EZ-Marinader, you'll find it by all your marinades at the store. It is the BEST stuff i've ever used for marinading.

                For whatever reason, it's been pulled from the shelves at our local grocery stores and when asked why, they said it wasn't selling well. Which is BS because I know everyone that tried that, swears by it. So now, I have a friend from Milwaukee get it down there and ship it to me.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by GrnBay007
                  Originally posted by MadtownPacker

                  Does anyone use one of these? Its what I have. It cooks real slow.


                  It's called a grill hun
                  LOLOLOL

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                  • #99
                    IF you have anything a cut about a top serloin I suggest leaving the marinade alone. Some like to use Teryaki for Filets, and that is understandable consideder Tenderloin can have zero taste if it ain't angus.

                    But Ribeyes and porterhouses are too damn good by themselves to be sticking in a bag full of vinager and catsup.

                    I do like to sprinkle any steak with fresh peppercorn and sea salt.

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                    • here is how i do steaks. very simple yet damn good. again go with quality meat. i found that Sam's club has a good selection of choice steaks.

                      season with lowry's, garlic salt, and pepper.

                      spark, i usually flip them twice, to get those nice lines. i usually try to error towards the hot side of the grill, just watch them close. with a hot grill you will sear the meat and "lock" in the juice. another trick i use, once you take them off the grill wrap them tight in tin foil asap and let them mellow for a minute. this causes the steaks to suck the juices back to the center.

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                      • Originally posted by GrnBay007
                        I don't know much about marinade ....only used a package type a few times, but I always thought vinegar was a key ingredient in a marinade to tenderize the meat? Am I dreaming this or is that true?
                        I thought that too, but what do I know about grilling??
                        "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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                        • The marindade I mentioned for bulgogi is for flavor only. It's a Korean dish, just something different to try. Everyone that I grilled it for has loved it.

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                          • Originally posted by Little Whiskey
                            here is how i do steaks. very simple yet damn good. again go with quality meat. i found that Sam's club has a good selection of choice steaks.

                            season with lowry's, garlic salt, and pepper.

                            spark, i usually flip them twice, to get those nice lines. i usually try to error towards the hot side of the grill, just watch them close. with a hot grill you will sear the meat and "lock" in the juice. another trick i use, once you take them off the grill wrap them tight in tin foil asap and let them mellow for a minute. this causes the steaks to suck the juices back to the center.
                            LW,

                            I have also done the above, garlic salt, lowry's (try the three pepper blend, very good) and of course freshly ground peppercorn.

                            Ya know, I used to cook by following this routine:

                            1. PLace steaks on grill
                            2. crack open a beer
                            3. season too taste
                            4. drink beer
                            5. Flip steak when first can is empty
                            6. Open second beer
                            7. season lightly
                            8. Pull steaks when half down with beer

                            LOL, used to work too a T, but I dont drink beer anymore and if I tried that with a gimlet, well..........lol I might lose track of the steak.

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                            • Originally posted by Sparkey

                              LOL, used to work too a T, but I dont drink beer anymore and if I tried that with a gimlet, well..........lol I might lose track of the steak.
                              Damn alcohol!! NO consideration or respect for the grill at all!!

                              gimlets.........vodka or gin?

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                              • Originally posted by GrnBay007
                                Originally posted by Sparkey

                                LOL, used to work too a T, but I dont drink beer anymore and if I tried that with a gimlet, well..........lol I might lose track of the steak.
                                Damn alcohol!! NO consideration or respect for the grill at all!!

                                gimlets.........vodka or gin?
                                Vodka, .....Grey Goose, Stolichnaya or preferably Iceberg.

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