Extreme Fighting

[SkinBasket]

The ESPN special on EF was very balanced. They pointed out it is growing somewhat out of the young male demographic, and that they don't have worse medical problems than say, boxing.

But what bothered me was watching one guy sitting on top of another guy, who was face down, and punching him in the head. I just don't know those guys aren't going to get brain damage from that sorta trauma.

HH, if you compare the "old timers" from UFC to the "old timers" from boxing, you'll see that even when it was less regulated, far less lasting damage was done to these guys. Hell, the worst thing most of these guys have got is the disgusting califlower ear.

I've watched boxing and to a lesser extent MMA over the past 10 years, and at this point, there is no comparison. Boxing is about on par with WWE, although it has improved slightly in the past year or two. MMA is safer, more entertaining, and you'll get to see an actual fight decided by the fighters, not a demonstration of fisticuffs that ends with the loser winning by split decision.

[Deputy Nutz]

Hell, the worst thing most of these guys have got is the disgusting califlower ear.

Hell where I come from thats a badge of honor.

I could never get it. When I was in the 7th grade I started getting a good build up in my ear, and then my mom saw that it was all red and swollen and she just about tore the god damn ear off. We went to the doctor, had it drained. Then she wouldn't let me wrestle for the next month.

[Guiness]

I don't know so much that I'm a fan, but I have watched some of it. Heck, a guy I grew up with is even a promoter of one of the smaller associations. He's done a couple of PPV specials for DirectTV.

As long as it's trained pros, who are getting paid and know what they're getting into, I've got no problem with it. You'd be surprised at how much these guys DON'T get hurt. They know how to defend themselves. I also think over the long run, they seem to take a lot less punishment than a boxer. Knockout generally take 2-3 landed punches, as opposed to boxing where a guy gets dinged in the head 50+ times in a match.

HH - if you're at all interested, you should get your hands on a couple of the original UFC tournaments. They are pretty neat.

[Deputy Nutz]

The original UFC didn't have the regulations and rules that the current UFC has. The UFC used to be owned and ran by the Gracie family, basically set up to demonstrate the effectiveness of Brazilian Ju Jitsu. They allowed hair pulling, the use of a uniform in a fight. There were no time limits, the ref was basically forced to let action go on even when an opponent was getting beat silly, the corner had to throw in the towel, or the fighter had to tap out. Mostly it was boring, guys would just lay on top of each other, the ref couldn't restart the action, or seperate fighters.

The current UFC is faster paced, and more actioned packed. I pefer the octagon verses a ring with ropes when it comes to MMA.

[SkinBasket]

The original UFC didn't have the regulations and rules that the current UFC has. The UFC used to be owned and ran by the Gracie family, basically set up to demonstrate the effectiveness of Brazilian Ju Jitsu. They allowed hair pulling, the use of a uniform in a fight. There were no time limits, the ref was basically forced to let action go on even when an opponent was getting beat silly, the corner had to throw in the towel, or the fighter had to tap out. Mostly it was boring, guys would just lay on top of each other, the ref couldn't restart the action, or seperate fighters.

The current UFC is faster paced, and more actioned packed. I pefer the octagon verses a ring with ropes when it comes to MMA.

God was it ever boring. If you want to see a dude straddle another dude and beat on his ribs for 15 minutes, then rent one of the first UFCs.

The competition wasn't really that great back then either. One of the first UFCs had a food vendor from County Stadium in it. He was about 40 pounds overweight and 40 years old.

[Little Whiskey]

The original UFC didn't have the regulations and rules that the current UFC has. They allowed hair pulling, the

If you want to see a dude straddle another dude and beat on his ribs for 15 minutes, then rent one of the first UFCs.

The competition wasn't really that great back then either. One of the first UFCs had a food vendor from County Stadium in it. He was about 40 pounds overweight and 40 years old.

and nascar get a reputation for being a redneck sport??!!!

[Deputy Nutz]

UFC 60 is on this Saturday. It pits a UFC legend Royce Gracie who won and competed in the first several shows, verse the pound for pound strongest fighter in the world, and welter weight champion Matt Hughes. Hughes is flat out the best fighter Gracie has and will ever face. Gracie in my opinion is over the hill, but still the best BJJ artist, but without the gee, how successful will he be against a well trained stomping machine like Hughes?

Gracie became famous and the face of MMA 12 years ago while dominating the UFC tourneys with his BJJ, but now everyone that trains in MMA has seen and trained in the fighting style, especially Hughes who comes from one of the best MMA Camps in the world, Militech Fighting Systems. Basically Hughes has seen it all, and maybe just maybe Gracie could catch him in a submission from the bottom position, because their is no way that Gracie will be able to take Hughes to the mat. Gracie simply cannot not stand and strike with Hughes. Gracie is weak in this area, and Hughes has only gotten better and better on his feet to become an above average striker in the UFC. The reality for Hughes, is that his bread and butter, the take down slam of his oponent and then the ground and pound might actually hurt his chances at winning this fight. Hughes will always be in a compromising position on the mat with Gracie.

I think it will be an exciting fight, and it will be interesting to see if Gracie has it in him to adapt to the UFC's new rules and regulations. Gracie simply can't wait his opponent out until there is an opportunity for a submission. The ref will have them standing with in 2 minutes if there is nothing happening on the mat, and in the long run, this is what hurts Gracie. Hughes has to protect his arms at all times, along with his kneck. Gracie is long and lean, while Hughes is short and compact, If Hughes gets Gracie on his back he needs to keep his technique perfect, and make sure that Gracie can't slip his legs around his shoulders or head and catch him in a triangle choke, or an arm bar. Because those are the only two things that are going to win the fight for Gracie.

[Harlan Huckleby]

This is a picture of myself & Mad before our last bout.

[MadtownPacker]

Is that the one where you tore off my manhood without your hands?

[Harlan Huckleby]

How many times do I have to apologize? I thought it was an ear - an honest mistake.

[Deputy Nutz]

Most of you that care, have already learned that Hughes destroyed Gracie last Saturday night at the Staple Center. In with the new, out with the old. Gracie got an unprecedented 1.2 million to have a go with Hughes and to get his shoulder torn, and have his skull bashed with punches an elbows. Not a bad little pay day for a cool million and some change.

[Scott Campbell]

We both know I'm training to become a cage fighter.