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  • Originally posted by swede
    Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
    Originally posted by swede
    Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
    Originally posted by Joemailman
    Leaper's starting to sound a little cranky. We may be in the process of finding our own Tex. :P

    I find it hard to believe that McCain, who is sounding more and more like Bush, would have more credibility internationally than either Obama or Clinton given Bush's international reputation. Most of the rest of the world is looking for a separation from the Bush policies, not more of the same.
    My new fav Bush idiocy, "The Turks need to move, move quickly, achieve their objective and get out."

    Irony at its finest.


    Their objective, post-hostilities, won't be to assist an entire nation in the process of forming, sustaining, and securing a new democracy after a half century of despotism.
    I forgot that was our goal going in. Must have missed the part about nation building.
    Your ability to deflect meaningful information allows you to carry on with your shallow world view.
    Meaningful information? Are you presenting something new? Something that hasn't been said umpteens times.

    Regardless, it is highly ironic (and you can forget about all your other points because they have nothing to do with IRONY) since we were going to go in, be feted with roses, have the whole thing paid for by their oil..and be out lickety split.

    Now we are there nation building and FIGHTING THE WAR ON TERROR...which we have been told may last years.

    The Turks also also fighting a war on terror..and yet, bush wants them out quickly.

    You can't see the irony?

    P.S. That half century of despotism was at one time SPONSORED BY US. Don't show up to gunfight with a knife.



    "As with all sovereign nations, we respect Iraq's independence, sovereignty and territorial integrity."
    -- Donald Rumsfeld, 1983

    "We don’t have an opinion on inter-Arab disputes such as your border dispute with Kuwait, and we have directed our official spokesman to reiterate this stand, and I have a directive from the President, personally, that I should work to expand and deepen relations with Iraq."
    – April Glaspie, US ambassador to Iraq, transcript of meeting with Iraqi leadership a week before Iraq's invasion of Kuwait in 1990 [img][/img]

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    • It's a terrible thing to wake up on a Saturday morning all grumpy. I heard Obama's new radio commercial late last night. Obama will have good judgement when he picks up the ringing red phone, since he had the judgement to oppose the Iraq war.

      This man's credibility evidently revolves around an opinion he expressed in 2002. And please note that Britney Spears also passes this litmus test, she too was against the war. This from the change campaign that looks to the future.

      I could argue until I am blue in the face that the vote to authorize Bush was a defensible decision. The past failure of weapons inspections ... Hussein's own inner circle thought there was a nuclear program ... blah blah blah. Doesn't matter. Those who opposed the war see it as a cut-and-dried credibility test. They aren't stupid, they are being child-like, as people can be.

      If Obama gets the presidency it will show America has largely moved passed racism. Hillary - people will trust a woman. If McCain wins, it shows a triumph of substance over marketing. I'm not sure which of the three results would be most surprising & encouraging.

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      • It looks like Hussein is going to go for the head shot in Texas with an all out last minute add blitz. They have started to spend some huge money now.
        C.H.U.D.

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        • They have democrats in Texas?
          "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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          • Originally posted by MJZiggy
            They have democrats in Texas?
            Shocking I know......but they must with all the money that is being spent.
            C.H.U.D.

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            • But going after the democrats does no good. They're illegal and can't vote anyway.
              "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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              • Originally posted by Freak Out
                It looks like Hussein is going to go for the head shot in Texas with an all out last minute add blitz. They have started to spend some huge money now.
                I don't really care what happens Tuesday. The most Clinton could accomplish would be to drag-out the inevitable a little longer.


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                • Hillary is prettier than Amy Poehler and she's 30 years older.

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                  • The weighted-average of multiple polls that Real Clear Politics tracks has Clinton surging in both Ohio and Texas. She has even pulled slightly ahead in Texas.

                    Apparently those pics of Hussein Obama in A-rab terrorist garb that I sent to Matt Drudge are working their magic.




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                    • Originally posted by MJZiggy
                      They have democrats in Texas?
                      Sure, just not white ones.
                      I can't run no more
                      With that lawless crowd
                      While the killers in high places
                      Say their prayers out loud
                      But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                      A thundercloud
                      They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                      • Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                        Hillary is prettier than Amy Poehler and she's 30 years older.


                        Maybe, but Amy Poehler would make a better President.

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                        • Obama has run a pretty squeeky clean campaign. His advocates, not so much.

                          I've read several commentators repeat as fact that "the Clinton Campaign" distributed the pics of Obama in Somalia. Those pics were on a right-wing website for months, and the person who alerted the Drudge Report to them might have worked for Hillary somewhere. (BTW, why would somebody reveal this association?)

                          Today, I heard on Air America show that Hillary deviously used weasle-words, tried to suggest that Obama might be a Muslim. When you hear the referenced interview, Clinton is unequivocal, this is a ridiculous slur.

                          The number one trick of dirty politics is to accuse your opponent of dirty politics. By this measure, there's been a lot of mud.

                          There have been a few instances of actual dirty politics in this campaign. I count two instances where Barak made foolish accusations. Bill Clinton has dropped some bombs. Most of the "dirty politics" have been attempts at point scoring, mostly by Clinton. Criticism, even petty criticism, is not dirty.

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                          • Shame on you Barrack Obama????

                            Did she really say that? Is that what her lifetime of government and foreign affairs experience has taught her?

                            What's next?

                            Shame on you Kim Jong II.
                            Shame on you Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
                            Shame on you Stephen Harper.

                            A vote for Hillary is a vote for my Grandma.

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                            • Originally posted by Scott Campbell
                              Shame on you Barrack Obama????

                              Did she really say that? Is that what her lifetime of government and foreign affairs experience has taught her?

                              What's next?

                              Shame on you Kim Jong II.
                              Shame on you Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
                              Shame on you Stephen Harper.

                              A vote for Hillary is a vote for my Grandma.
                              What do you want her to say? "The bombing of Barack Obama begins in five minutes"?

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                              • Texas has both primary & a caucus, so it presents an opportunity to compare the two formats. With about 75% of the votes counted, Clinton leads the total popular vote by 4%, yet Obama leads the caucus vote by 12%.

                                This is an eye-popping discrepency. Frank Rich dismissed questions about the fairness of caucuses as whining by Bill Clinton. But this is head-in-the-sand analysis, many journalists have pointed out the skewed results of the caucuses. Obama's delegate lead is built largely on his organizational edge rather than a huge advantage in popular support. (The so-called "popular vote" nation-wide totals include caucus votes.)

                                I expect there will be a revote in Michigan & Florida. Still, Obama is going to get the nomination in the end. He needs to select Clinton as his vice president to unify the democratic party. Obama will be a stronger candidate, and a better president, if he respectfully co-opts Clinton. I'm sure he is tempted to pick a lower status person from outside Washington.

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