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  • #16
    Originally posted by packinpatland
    Originally posted by oregonpackfan
    Originally posted by MJZiggy
    I don't know, there Harlan, I don't get to vote in my own state's primary so I may be less people than you think.
    I feel your pain, MJZiggy. Here in Oregon, only registered Democrats and Republicans are allowed to vote. If you are a registered Independent or Libertarian, you are left out in the cold.

    Again I ask: Where in the U.S. Constitution does it say the country should be limited to two political parties?
    Same here in CT. And I think it stinks.
    You are all weenies. Oregon - weenie. Ziggy - Weenie. Patland - weenie. weenie, weenie, weenie.

    Just register with the Democrats or Republicans. You will have some views that fall within the other party, so does nearly everybody. I know you think you are being SOPHISTICATED and FREE THINKING with your independent status, but most likely you are kidding yourself. Very few people truly have no stronger affinity for one party or the other.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Joemailman
      I think this is because there are no major policy differences between Clinton and Obama.
      ya, this is probably true.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by GBRulz
        I have a ? - Since I'm out of state, how do I do an absentee ballot? Is that something that I have to take care of back home? I'm in BFE, Minnesota for a month for work.
        I'll be happy to send you one in time to vote. BTW, what do you think of that Obama fellow?

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
          Originally posted by packinpatland
          Originally posted by oregonpackfan
          Originally posted by MJZiggy
          I don't know, there Harlan, I don't get to vote in my own state's primary so I may be less people than you think.
          I feel your pain, MJZiggy. Here in Oregon, only registered Democrats and Republicans are allowed to vote. If you are a registered Independent or Libertarian, you are left out in the cold.

          Again I ask: Where in the U.S. Constitution does it say the country should be limited to two political parties?
          Same here in CT. And I think it stinks.
          You are all weenies. Oregon - weenie. Ziggy - Weenie. Patland - weenie. weenie, weenie, weenie.

          Just register with the Democrats or Republicans. You will have some views that fall within the other party, so does nearly everybody. I know you think you are being SOPHISTICATED and FREE THINKING with your independent status, but most likely you are kidding yourself. Very few people truly have no stronger affinity for one party or the other.
          Yeah, but since I'm not registered, I don't get political advertisements and backbiting hate mail...The only place I see political hatred is here.
          "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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          • #20
            "Very few people truly have no stronger affinity for one party or the other."

            I have no affinity for one party or the other.

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            • #21
              I believe you packinpatland, I certainly respect those truly in the middle.

              Ziggy, I seriously doubt that registering is gonna get you a lot of harassment. They don't bug me, of course I don't give them any money, and I breathe heavily into the phone when they do call.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                I believe you packinpatland, I certainly respect those truly in the middle.

                Ziggy, I seriously doubt that registering is gonna get you a lot of harassment. They don't bug me, of course I don't give them any money, and I breathe heavily into the phone when they do call.
                There's a contentious state race going on here and I'm getting tons of calls and junk mail for my ex, but none for me and if they don't stop sniping at each other and tell me where they freakin' stand on the issues, I'm not voting for either one of 'em. That breathing heavy thing would be cool except that a lot of the calls I'm getting these days are computer generated. Bastards.
                "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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                • #23
                  Hucklebee won both the Kansas caucus and Louisiana primary.

                  he's a plucky little preacher. I don't think he is a contender, but what an impressive string he's put together.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by packinpatland
                    "Very few people truly have no stronger affinity for one party or the other."

                    I have no affinity for one party or the other.
                    Two-party politics' stranglehold on America will come to an end in the next 25 years. People are finally speaking up against it and the rest will fall in order. While I still think Democrats and Republicans will be the core of the country, it will become possible for a 3rd party candidate to win the election.
                    "I've got one word for you- Dallas, Texas, Super Bowl"- Jermichael Finley

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                      Hucklebee won both the Kansas caucus and Louisiana primary.

                      he's a plucky little preacher. I don't think he is a contender, but what an impressive string he's put together.
                      He'll end up on the ticket with McCain because he's proved he can win the South and John cannot.

                      I like Huckabee as a person. Good talker, good with people, I like his attitude. However, I'm totally not in line with him on the issues. Religion plays way too much into his shtick and religion does not belong in politics. Sure, it will always be a factor, but Huckabee is succeeding because of his religion and his beliefs because of his religion, not because of his stance on the issues.
                      "I've got one word for you- Dallas, Texas, Super Bowl"- Jermichael Finley

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by BallHawk
                        Originally posted by packinpatland
                        "Very few people truly have no stronger affinity for one party or the other."

                        I have no affinity for one party or the other.
                        Two-party politics' stranglehold on America will come to an end in the next 25 years. People are finally speaking up against it and the rest will fall in order. While I still think Democrats and Republicans will be the core of the country, it will become possible for a 3rd party candidate to win the election.
                        how will a 3rd party get a toehold? People have been speaking against the two parties forever. There was more third party talk back when Wallace ran in 70's than in more recent times.

                        Its gonna take run-off elections (winner must win majority) to get there from here. I'm not sure how we do that. I know there are reform movements, but how do you get congress to act when it is against their interests?

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by BallHawk
                          Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                          Hucklebee won both the Kansas caucus and Louisiana primary.

                          he's a plucky little preacher. I don't think he is a contender, but what an impressive string he's put together.
                          He'll end up on the ticket with McCain because he's proved he can win the South and John cannot.

                          I like Huckabee as a person. Good talker, good with people, I like his attitude. However, I'm totally not in line with him on the issues. Religion plays way too much into his shtick and religion does not belong in politics. Sure, it will always be a factor, but Huckabee is succeeding because of his religion and his beliefs because of his religion, not because of his stance on the issues.
                          I'm willing to bet Huckabee won't be a vip.

                          Don't go against tyrone. Tyrone was first on this board to spot the Huckabee threat. Tyrone was the first to note how unappealing Giuliani was..despite many who thought ty was an idiot..not that i'm not, but not on this one.

                          Having Huck ain't gonna bring the anti mccain conservatives on board. Ain't gonna change those dobson clones. And, those southern states are red..you don't add a vp who can't help you win blue/red states...minny, penn, etc.

                          VP has to have the right profile for veep: loyal, hardworking, knows when to keep his mouth shut. Sound like Huckabee..no.

                          McCain needs someone with strong econ/biz background.
                          Candidates: tom ridge..longtime friend, strong domestic policy. Negatives...soft support for abortion rights and skeptic of big weapons systems.

                          Graham, old fav, who is probably out of it because he faces a tough primary re-election, since he has become too moderate for his party's right wing.

                          Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty., a moderate conservation and energy-reform Republican, who is the darling of the conservative press.

                          Georgia Gov. Sonny Perdue, Florida Gov. Charlie Crist, U.S. Sen. Mel Martinez, R-Fla., U.S. Sen. Richard Lugar..tho two 70 year olds seems unlikely.

                          don't rule out condi or even mitt.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                            Hucklebee won both the Kansas caucus and Louisiana primary.

                            he's a plucky little preacher. I don't think he is a contender, but what an impressive string he's put together.
                            Huckabee has killed McCain in the south. I'm wondering if the combination of increased Dem participation in southern primaries, and McCain's unpopularity there, could mean that some formerly "safe" Republican states will be in play this year. Probably not states like Mississippi or Alabama, but maybe Virginia or Louisiana.

                            By the way Harlan, you spelled Huckabee as Hucklebee. A Freudian slip?
                            I can't run no more
                            With that lawless crowd
                            While the killers in high places
                            Say their prayers out loud
                            But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                            A thundercloud
                            They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by packinpatland
                              "Very few people truly have no stronger affinity for one party or the other."

                              I have no affinity for one party or the other.
                              That's probably why they don't want you determining who represents said party. If you aren't French you don't get to determine the president of France. If you aren't a Democrat or Republican, why should you get to choose who represents Democrats or Republicans?
                              "You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns

                                Having Huck ain't gonna bring the anti mccain conservatives on board. Ain't gonna change those dobson clones. And, those southern states are red..you don't add a vp who can't help you win blue/red states...minny, penn, etc.
                                I think you're right. The governor of Florida that endorsed McCain probably is near top of list.
                                Huckabee would be a decent choice for VP, but his appeal is in states where th GOP is already solid.

                                Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                                don't rule out condi or even mitt.
                                I don't see Mitt in politics anymore. Guy became the punchline to too many jokes. And the support he did have had the whiff of desperation to it - conservative people sorta kinda counted him as the only old school conserative available. Condi is possibile.

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