Wisconsin Primary

[BallHawk]

I'm not going to bother responding to that. There is a lot more to voting than a presidential selection. That, and if you think they're going to give up their voice when they're at an age where plenty of their friends, coworkers, and family members fought for freedom and died, you're off your rocker.

Stats show everything you need to know. If you don't think the older voters are going to be out in full-force that day, then I don't even know what to say.

Really, Partial? You think that voters are going to look at McCain and ignore the fact that he's weak on immigration and that he has not taken a stand on same-sex marriage?

That isn't even mentioning the fact that he's managed to piss of the evangelicals of the party! He's destroyed the votes that he needs to win, Partial. He's burned bridges, cut ties, whatever you want to call it he has pulled away from the people that put Republicans in the White House.

He will get independents, Partial, but he will not be able to make up the conservatives that he will lose. That is almost as good as fact.

[Partial]

Studies show that voters 25-64 come out in 91.1%

65+ is 98%.

You really don't think an older crowd is going to come out to vote?!?

I don't know whether they will or not, but these people hold voting as a far more important than your typical 18 year old and WILL be at the polls regardless of if they vote for Ron Paul, Obama or McCain.

[Partial]

The biggest problem with our country is too many people think in democrat or republican. What ever happened to looking at a track record and voting for someone who has actually accomplished things and displayed their ability to be a leader?

Our two party system sucks. I'm not a big Romney supporter since I don't agree with the way he views some social situatinos, but the cat has had success whereever he is gone. He and Richardson were the only two serious candidates with any experience in a leadership role. Governors come in with more experience typically than Senators.

[BallHawk]

Our two party system sucks. I'm not a big Romney supporter since I don't agree with the way he views some social situatinos, but the cat has had success whereever he is gone. He and Richardson were the only two serious candidates with any experience in a leadership role. Governors come in with more experience typically than Senators.

Sure, they come in with more experience, but that doesn't make them better suited for the job. GW Bush came in as a governor and that turned out great didn't it? On the other hand, JFK was a Senator.

What the person has done in the past matters little, nowadays. It's what they can do and what they will do.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Sure, they come in with more experience, but that doesn't make them better suited for the job. GW Bush came in as a governor and that turned out great didn't it? On the other hand, JFK was a Senator.

What the person has done in the past matters little, nowadays. It's what they can do and what they will do.

I don't believe this at all. I think George Bush has created a distortion in our thinking. I think he is a once in a millenium disaster and should just be ignored, rather than using him to lower bars.

JFK was in Congress several terms before he became a Senator. He also was a war hero, and a commander of a naval vessel.

Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton ran as outside insurgents. But they had significant executive experience as Governors, Bill Clinton for 12 years?

Experience is good.

[BallHawk]

I'm not denouncing experience. Hell, myself I think Obama is a little raw. Experience, however, is not the be all and end all of a campaign. Hillary says she has 35 years of experience. 35 years of what? I'd take somebody doing 5 years of real-solid work than 35 years of fluff any day. I'm not denouncing Hillary, for she has done great work in her years as a politician, but how much time has she spent really working for the people? How much time has any politician really spent working for others and not themselves?

I would of been fine with Richardson to be honest, I would of been fine with Dodd or Biden. Actually, I want Biden to be the VP on either ticket to the White House. But experience is becoming less and less important and the emphasis is turning to likability and how good a person's smile is. Experience is great, but it's to applied when you have it and when you don't you BS.

[Partial]

Our two party system sucks. I'm not a big Romney supporter since I don't agree with the way he views some social situatinos, but the cat has had success whereever he is gone. He and Richardson were the only two serious candidates with any experience in a leadership role. Governors come in with more experience typically than Senators.

Sure, they come in with more experience, but that doesn't make them better suited for the job. GW Bush came in as a governor and that turned out great didn't it? On the other hand, JFK was a Senator.

What the person has done in the past matters little, nowadays. It's what they can do and what they will do.

Anyone can say they will do something. Hell, I declare right now that I will change this country. See? It's that simple. The question is will he actually do anything?

The scary thing is he probably will. Universal health care, aka make anyone who makes 50k or more pay for it twice, will probably get implemented. Businesses will continue to be taxed to hell and jobs will continue to move to developing countries.

On the plus side, the budget will probably get balanced. But, it will be at the expense of extreme taxation.

[Partial]

Sure, they come in with more experience, but that doesn't make them better suited for the job. GW Bush came in as a governor and that turned out great didn't it? On the other hand, JFK was a Senator.

What the person has done in the past matters little, nowadays. It's what they can do and what they will do.

I don't believe this at all. I think George Bush has created a distortion in our thinking. I think he is a once in a millenium disaster and should just be ignored, rather than using him to lower bars.

JFK was in Congress several terms before he became a Senator. He also was a war hero, and a commander of a naval vessel.

Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton ran as outside insurgents. But they had significant executive experience as Governors, Bill Clinton for 12 years?

Experience is good.

Correct.

[Harlan Huckleby]

By the way, Obama is the projected winner in Maine.http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23098411/

Clinton has won only a single caucus, Nevada, and that was just because of large hispanic support. The Obama people obviously are aces at ginning-up caucus turn-out, I thought Clinton might have a shot in Maine.

It's amazing how different the followers of these two candidates are. Clinton people are better about voting, but they aren't the zealots who will spend half a day at a caucus.

Its interesting, in California where there was a primary, Hillary even won the majority of the youth vote.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I want Biden to be the VP on either ticket to the White House.

I would love to see Biden as VP. I'm not sure he has the personality for it. He likes to be in charge. I hope he at least becomes Secretary of State.

[BallHawk]

I want Biden to be the VP on either ticket to the White House.

I would love to see Biden as VP. I'm not sure he has the personality for it. He likes to be in charge. I hope he at least becomes Secretary of State.

If Hillary wins I would love to see her choose Wesley Clark as her VP. It wouldn't surprise me either. Both are Arkansas grown and I think Clark would compliment Clinton quite well.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Having Huck ain't gonna bring the anti mccain conservatives on board. Ain't gonna change those dobson clones. And, those southern states are red..you don't add a vp who can't help you win blue/red states...minny, penn, etc.

I think you're right. The governor of Florida that endorsed McCain probably is near top of list.
Huckabee would be a decent choice for VP, but his appeal is in states where th GOP is already solid.

don't rule out condi or even mitt.

I don't see Mitt in politics anymore. Guy became the punchline to too many jokes. And the support he did have had the whiff of desperation to it - conservative people sorta kinda counted him as the only old school conserative available. Condi is possibile.

Charlie Crist would certainly appeal to you. Single, white unmarried male.

As dylan sang, you don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.

Mitt would be ok as vip, plus would shore up the conservative vote, help on econ which is mccain's weak point. Always better to take a strong conservative from a blue state than a weak conservative from a red state.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

I think you're right. The governor of Florida that endorsed McCain probably is near top of list.

I doubt Crist would be chosen. McCain needs somebody that will excel where McCain does not. Charlie Crist has, IMO, done a great job so far as our governor, and I like him as a person. However, he doesn't bring anything to the table that McCain already has. Crist isn't as conservative as Huckabee, nor many other candidates for the VP spot.

All he has to do is help McCain win Florida, and he has done more than ANY VP has done for the ticket in 48 years.

Bush won Florida pretty handedly in 2004. I think that stays Republican anyway. The danger zone for the Republicans are states like Iowa and Ohio which went Republican in 2004, but not by much. The Republican party in Ohio is in shambles largely due to corruption.

Gonna be hard for florida to stay repub with the hardline immigration talk. More non cuban latinos in the state than cubans..that is a new factor.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

McCain is a powerhouse of a candidate because he'll still get the republican votes yet steal some of the democrats.

Really, Partial?

Well, he's going to have to steal a helluva lot of Democrats to make up for the number of conservatives that are going to be sitting at home on election day.

Ballhawk, arent' you in High School? You show more intelligence than someone in college.

[BallHawk]

McCain is a powerhouse of a candidate because he'll still get the republican votes yet steal some of the democrats.

Really, Partial?

Well, he's going to have to steal a helluva lot of Democrats to make up for the number of conservatives that are going to be sitting at home on election day.

Ballhawk, arent' you in High School?

Depends who you ask.

If you ask me I'm a 9th grader at Gulf Coast High School.

If you ask some other people I'm a confused 40-something.

Take your pick.