Wisconsin Primary

[Harlan Huckleby]

God, I love the smell of dirty politics in the morning!!

Michigan Dems are trying to move ahead with a full primary in June.

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080315/NEWS07/803150317

It requires legislative action, the bill is written and will be voted on this week. Hillary is agreeable. The Obama side, who have spoken of accepting any fair resolution, won't make a statement, they need to "study the proposal further."

The likely nominee of the democratic party won't endorse a vote to determine MI's fate. Obviously BHO is delaying and praying for the legislature to drop the ball and take the heat. Too rich.

[sooner6600]

H.H.;

Are you sure that Rush Limbaugh said that Hilary would Fosterize the big O?

Sounds Clintonistic; maybe you picked it up on Air America or some
National Public Radio Station?

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Here in Oklahoma we have an NPR station. The only time I listen is when
the folks from Lake Woebegone are on.

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Remember; don't be insane vote McCain.

[Joemailman]

Remember; don't be insane vote McCain.

Don't embarrass your Momma, vote Obama. :P

We'll let Harlan some up with a bad rhyme for Hillary.

[Harlan Huckleby]

dirty tricks - we got um.
to the top with Rodham!

[Joemailman]

If Hillary finds out you've crossed her
You'll end up like Vince Foster.

[BallHawk]

Hussein's a liar, it's he you should ditch
Hilary '08- Vote for the Bitch!

[Freak Out]

Now we got something here.

[digitaldean]

I find it terribly humorous the dilemma the Democrats find themselves in.

First they set the rules if MI and FL went ahead of their regular primary date. If they did their delegates didn't count. Both candidates agreed to the DNC's ruliing. Now that Billary is behind the rules are good enough to change?

On top of that, the DNC thinks it's OK to have the people vote and not have their voices recognized. If the RNC (which is no group of choirboys) tried this the howls of injustice would be even louder.

Absolutely none of the candidates remaining is remotely palatable to me. I will not stay home, but I will be picking the lesser of 2 evils.

Where's Pat Paulson when you need him????

[Harlan Huckleby]

First they set the rules if MI and FL went ahead of their regular primary date. If they did their delegates didn't count. Both candidates agreed to the DNC's ruliing. Now that Billary is behind the rules are good enough to change?

It's inaccurate to say that the rules are being changed. It's completely within the rules for the states to hold new primaries and caucuses in June if their votes were invalidated earlier on.

The Clintonites are not misbehaving (other than their hollow talk about counting the voided earlier votes.) What's going on is a strained attempt to renegotiate a process in midstream. It does smack of illegitimacy, but the various parties really have no choice. They can't just ignore FL & MI, they have to correct the mistake of the original plan, stay within the rules, and appease all sides to the conflict. Miserable.

[Harlan Huckleby]

On top of that, the DNC thinks it's OK to have the people vote and not have their voices recognized. If the RNC (which is no group of choirboys) tried this the howls of injustice would be even louder.

I do agree that the Democrats have thoroughly disgraced themselves. This is worse than the federal government's performance in Katrina.

[Joemailman]

First they set the rules if MI and FL went ahead of their regular primary date. If they did their delegates didn't count. Both candidates agreed to the DNC's ruliing. Now that Billary is behind the rules are good enough to change?

It's inaccurate to say that the rules are being changed. It's completely within the rules for the states to hold new primaries and caucuses in June if their votes were invalidated earlier on.

The Clintonites are not misbehaving (other than their hollow talk about counting the voided earlier votes.) What's going on is a strained attempt to renegotiate a process in midstream. It does smack of illegitimacy, but the various parties really have no choice. They can't just ignore FL & MI, they have to correct the mistake of the original plan, stay within the rules, and appease all sides to the conflict. Miserable.

I don't think Michigan will be much of a problem. Obama will likely agree to the plan on the table, especially since he has enough of a delegate lead to absorb a moderate loss. Florida doesn't seem to know what they want to do, although I suspect a primary will be held there too.

On top of that, the DNC thinks it's OK to have the people vote and not have their voices recognized. If the RNC (which is no group of choirboys) tried this the howls of injustice would be even louder.

I do agree that the Democrats have thoroughly disgraced themselves. This is worse than the federal government's performance in Katrina.

I suspect there are thousands of current and fprmer New Orleans residents who might disagree with that.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I don't think Michigan will be much of a problem. Obama will likely agree to the plan on the table, especially since he has enough of a delegate lead to absorb a moderate loss. Florida doesn't seem to know what they want to do, although I suspect a primary will be held there too.

I think the candidates are still fighting tooth and nail. There is perhaps a 10 delegate swing at stake in MI, and more importantly, an opportunity for momentum if a contest is held. Obama is maneuvering to get the revote killed in Michigan, otherwise he would help the process along by saying he agrees in principle with a revote. The Michigan legislature is waiting to hear this. The revote could EASILY die in a stalled negotiation this week, over money, or eligibility, it is far from a done deal.

Obama desperately doesn't want more primaries in June! He wants to wrap-it-up before then.

I do agree that the Democrats have thoroughly disgraced themselves. This is worse than the federal government's performance in Katrina.

I suspect there are thousands of current and fprmer New Orleans residents who might disagree with that.

Ya, the consequences are different. Honestly, I think the Dems have been exceptionally incompetent. The trainwreck was predictable a long time ago. The REpublicans had far better foresight.

[BallHawk]

The Dems have been incompetent, but it is the Republicans' fault that there is a mess in Florida.

[Harlan Huckleby]

The Dems have been incompetent, but it is the Republicans' fault that there is a mess in Florida.

ya, sort-of true.

The worst villian is Howard Dean (and the people who authorized him) for imposing such draconian punishments. DEan left the party vulnerable to mischief from the Florida Republicans. Dean's ego got in the way, he could have devised a more sensible compromise, something like what the Republicans did. He behaved like Joe Stalin, enforcing mass punishment on people who had nothing to do with a procedural fight.

[BallHawk]

Howard Dean really comes across as an ass in interviews.