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On the subject by the resident old fucker, HH how are playing games any less worthwhile than watching a TV show or a movie?

Those games are mind numbing. A good movie stimulates imagination, makes you think. Or laugh, or cry if an animal dies.

Maybe there are some video games that require some creativity. What I've seen is just repetitive crap. They are glorified pinball machines.

Play Final Fantasy 3 for super nintendo and get back to me. Best video game ever.

[Zool]

On the subject by the resident old fucker, HH how are playing games any less worthwhile than watching a TV show or a movie?

Those games are mind numbing. A good movie stimulates imagination, makes you think. Or laugh, or cry if an animal dies.

Maybe there are some video games that require some creativity. What I've seen is just repetitive crap. They are glorified pinball machines.

I think activities that you remember enrich your life, that's a good test.

I can't say what the video game experience is for you. And I really don't think less of people who amuse themselves with video games. It just looks awful to me, I don't get it.

You've obviously had limited exposure to games in the last 10 years. Read up on Half Life some time. Games aren't all Asteroids and PacMan anymore. I remember specifically the first time I played Silent Hill and Resident Evil. Never before had a games atmosphere made me jump when something came at me. Check out a game called Fable. The game's progress is altered by the way you play it.

I can't remember what I watched on TV last week, and no moment sticks out in my mind right now of a TV show I watched and wanted to watch it again. Movies hit me like games do but thats about it.

I can say that without computer games, i wouldn't work in IT. I bought a PC to play a game specifically. Tore it apart a week later to figure out how to make it faster. I would say that makes it life changing in a round about way.

Obviously real-life experiences are more fulfilling, that goes without saying. But TV is actually a giant waste of time for me anymore. Its all rehashing the same damned cop drama and boring sit-com. I wont even get into reality TV. Especially when they have writers on their staff.


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I know that cable is compressed, but someone asked how picture quality compared between Blu-Ray and broadcast.

Havent tried 720p specifically, but have tried 1080i vs 1080p while playing Ratchet and Clank. Its noticeable, but hardly a deal breaker. I have a 47 and my couch is about 5feet from the set. Yeah its a little close. As I said, the difference between the 2 can be measured by your wallet.

And yeah, if you go back and check out some early HD-DVD's they weren't up to todays standards, which makes me wonder what it will be like in 2 years. Will 1080p matter more then?? I don't want to find out the hard way like early adopters of HD-DVD.

[twoseven]

So, if I choose every now and then to play a video game for some escape time after everything else I actually do in a given week, hey pal, I've earned it. I don't expect you to like it or agree with it. It's for me.

I wasn't actually judging you. Or anybody that plays video games. To me they seem like a god-awful waste of time.

No, what you definitely did do was make an assumption about me that was about as far off the mark as you could possibly get. I can't remember the last time anyone has ever suggested to me I should get off my ass and go down to the Y for some pick up hoops or some laps in the pool. However, there are plenty of people I have been around that are quick to give advice on better health no matter what their level of understanding is. So I'm not shocked that you would think what you do at the Y would qualify you to tell others to stop being so lazy. Is there any way you could have known enough about me to realize that I didn't need you to coach me up? No, and that's the point. It appears that you need to assume less and ask more questions before you suggest how people you've never met could better spend their freetime.

Zool's right, you have absolutely no idea what a video game is all about these days. You should find out how far they have advanced in the last 20 years before you belittle them to those that know exactly what they involve. The advances are like comparing VHS to Blueray x 1000, and they're a helluva lot more than beeps and buzzes and glorified versions of pinball. Stop assuming and do some research before you make your sweeping generalizations in the future.

[Scott Campbell]

720p and 1080i broadcasts from Charter cable are craptactular in comparison with a bluray at 1080p.

Hard to say if its a fair comparison. Cable and satellite broadcasters are compressing their HD signals. You actually get a better signal with a good over the air antenna.

When you switch to HD, do the HDTVs get better actual reception than their non-HD counterparts? Obviously the picture quality is far superior, but do you get a better signal?

Are you asking about the quality of the tuner? Newer sets have digital tuners, and pick up signals over a different part of the spectrum than sets from 20 years ago. I don't know about signal strength, and the sensitivity of todays tuners. Typically reception has more to do with the strength of the signal.

[SkinBasket]

720p and 1080i broadcasts from Charter cable are craptactular in comparison with a bluray at 1080p.

Hard to say if its a fair comparison. Cable and satellite broadcasters are compressing their HD signals. You actually get a better signal with a good over the air antenna.

Due to some poor programming on a certain PS3 game, it's required that you set your PS3 settings to 720p output to play the game. We watched the new Harry Potter BR entirely and I kept noticing that the image was not as sharp as the 1080p trailer I had seen. It was then that I remembered setting the output to 720p. Changed the output back to 1080p and watched several of the fine detail scenes again. My wife, who has trouble discerning these things - mainly because she doesn't care, and I immediately agreed that there was a noticeable difference and felt a little sad about watching the movie in 720. As mentioned before it's 56 inches at 12-16 feet depending where you sit.

I understand some people have trouble ever seeing the difference due to the variables you mentioned before, combined with ignorance and poor eyesight. I only think said people are idiots when they try to tell everyone else - especially those who have 1080p TVs hooked up to 1080p sources that there isn't a difference because they don't see it at their local Sears, which probably has their HD Pretty Flower Show source box hooked up with component cables.

[Zool]

I understand some people have trouble ever seeing the difference due to the variables you mentioned before, combined with ignorance and poor eyesight. I only think said people are idiots when they try to tell everyone else - especially those who have 1080p TVs hooked up to 1080p sources that there isn't a difference because they don't see it at their local Sears, which probably has their HD Pretty Flower Show source box hooked up with component cables.

With a component splitter running 8-10 TV's at one time from one signal. HDMI makes a difference as well.

[Harlan Huckleby]

No, what you definitely did do was make an assumption about me that was about as far off the mark as you could possibly get. I can't remember the last time anyone has ever suggested to me I should get off my ass and go down to the Y for some pick up hoops

frankly you are entering the moron zone now. I have zero idea who you are, and made no assumptions. The comment about the Y was not directed at you personally, it was to make my point in general about the superiority of physical activity to video gaming.

We are not having a face-to-face conversation. We are shooting the bull in an internet forum. Don't take things so personally that obviously can have no connection to you as a real person.

they're a helluva lot more than beeps and buzzes and glorified versions of pinball. Stop assuming and do some research before you make your sweeping generalizations in the future.

I'm to do my research before offering an opinion in this forum? But this forum IS my research! I'm just telling you what I think, and I admittedly have limited experience with video games, my limited experience has not been encouraging.

I consider video games roughly equivalent to watching a football game on TV. They are forgetable, mind-numbing experiences that generally just blend together in your memory. I am not looking down on people, I appreciate the appeal of vegging out.

[SkinBasket]

With a component splitter running 8-10 TV's at one time from one signal. HDMI makes a difference as well.

Not only does it help, it's necessary for a 1080p signal right now.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I can say that without computer games, i wouldn't work in IT.

this may be the most damning comment I've ever read about computer games.


I think TV, computer games, the internet and virtual reality toys are taking a toll. People are interacting less with the real environment. I've worked a lot as a computer programmer, so I know about virtual worlds.

[Zool]

I can say that without computer games, i wouldn't work in IT.

this may be the most damning comment I've ever read about computer games.


I think TV, computer games, the internet and virtual reality toys are taking a toll. People are interacting less with the real environment. I've worked a lot as a computer programmer, so I know about virtual worlds.

How the hell is that a damning comment? I was 20 at the time, working as a framer as a good portion of my family has done most of their lives.

[Harlan Huckleby]

How the hell is that a damning comment?

Oh my God. It's happening again. Is there something about computer gaming that causes young men to lose their sense of humor??

yes Zool, IT is a very honorable profession, and you should be proud of your accomplishments in that field.

[Zool]

How the hell is that a damning comment?

Oh my God. It's happening again. Is there something about video gaming that causes young men to lose their sense of humor??

yes Zool, IT is a very honorable profession, and you should be proud of your accomplishments in that field.

I lost my sense of humor about 25 years ago, and this has nothing to do with that. You're dry (ahem) wit escapes me sometimes I guess. I didnt realize we were back to the comedic verbal jabs.

Its on like Donkey Kong old man.

[BallHawk]

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[Harlan Huckleby]

I worked 25 years in IT, and I always found it quite the land of dark humor. People often talked about escaping to the light side. And actually, after the .COM bust, they weren't kidding so much!

[MadtownPacker]

Oh my God. It's happening again. Is there something about computer gaming that causes young men to lose their sense of humor??

Its because he doesnt have the luxury of killing you like he does in the games and getting some of that instant gratification he is use to.