Recession coming

[Harlan Huckleby]

So maybe they should get a second job?

Little hard to see how this applies to tax fairness.

You're right that a lot of high earning people work long hours. A lot of low paid workers end of working long hours too, though. Lots of people work multiple jobs to make ends meet.

[Partial]

I just am sick of excuses. I think taxing someone more because they make more money is ludacris. Fosco hit the nail on the head with his post several months back.

[GrnBay007]

People in the lower and middle classes are taking it up the ass.

People in the lower and middle classes pay less tax - despite your weasel words.

That's because they have less to pay tax with and when you're done paying your taxes, you will have far, far more left over than they start with before paying a dime.

So maybe they should get a second job? The jobs that pay a lot of money are rarely 40 hours a week, ya know. My boss probably works about 70.

Partial, sometimes I wonder if you think things through before you post. I'm middle class and work over 40 hours a week. I'm a single mom and have worked weekends for 10 years even though my job doesn't require it but have done so in order to be at every one of my kids after school activities and sporting events. So are you saying people that have this "tax issue" should totally negating family values? .....who cares about your family, dammit.....work 70 hours a week!!!! With all due respect you need to live a bit more of the adult life before you begin spouting all this stuff. Right now it appears you are living in a glass house.

[Scott Campbell]

BTW, I think he would be very interested in your flat-fee-for-the-wealthy plan.

Sounds like your old man already likes me more than you.

I'm still not for a flat fee for the wealthy plan.

[Scott Campbell]

I'm obviously not advocating working moms taking on 2nd jobs so they can pay more tax.

I'm correcting Harlan on his math. He says lower income people pay more tax, and that is not true. They pay less tax.

They only pay more tax - as a percentage of their income. They also pay more for gas, lightbulbs, soup, hair dryers, crayons, recliners and toothpaste - as a percentage of their income. That's part of the advantage of having more money - you actually get to buy more stuff if you like. Unless Handout Harlan gets his way.

[Scott Campbell]

That's because they have less to pay tax with and when you're done paying your taxes, you will have far, far more left over than they start with before paying a dime.

Did you add up the percentages? It's pretty staggering how success gets penalized in this country.

[Scott Campbell]

The social security tax is anal penetrator numero uno for the lower/middle class earner.

So abolish it altogether. Good riddance.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

I kick myself in the ass everyday for not going over there and starting some bs company and stealing from OUR TAX PAYERS like all the other companies.

News to Ty...

You don't have to go over there to do that. There are plenty of companies that have nothing to do with the war that are stealing from taxpayers at home.

News to Leaper...you can't make the millions over here that you can over there in like 6 months.

[oregonpackfan]

I just am sick of excuses. I think taxing someone more because they make more money is ludacris. Fosco hit the nail on the head with his post several months back.

Partial,

A progressive tax system has been the foundation of America's tax system. They make more money, therefore they pay more taxes.

What stymies me is the President's tax position is that the best way to economically help the middle class, the working class and the poor is to provide more tax breaks for the very wealthy.

It is just a recycled version of Ronald Reagan's "Trickle Down" theory. As long as America takes care of the wealthy, the financial benefits will "Trickle Down" to the rest of American Society.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Funny how people always want to argue with Partial. He is just babbling.

Scott Campbell argues repeatedly for regressive taxes, and now he suggests we can just throw away the Social Security system. No response from the cowering masses.

Wake up, people! Partial is just a diversion, an easy punching bag for old people to lecture. The real devil is in our midst, and his name is Scott Campbell. He's a powerful man who sponsors people in high places, and he's out to destroy our way of life. You must not fear him, now is the time for all people of good faith to stop him cold.

[GrnBay007]

[falco]

anyone else notice that favre's retirement has actually given us a reason to spend the offseason somewhere other than the romper room

[Joemailman]

I think Scott is an elitist jerk...unless I win the Powerball this weekend. Then I'll be pissed that most of my winnings will be taxed to fuel Harlan's socialist agenda.

[Partial]

People in the lower and middle classes are taking it up the ass.

People in the lower and middle classes pay less tax - despite your weasel words.

That's because they have less to pay tax with and when you're done paying your taxes, you will have far, far more left over than they start with before paying a dime.

So maybe they should get a second job? The jobs that pay a lot of money are rarely 40 hours a week, ya know. My boss probably works about 70.

Partial, sometimes I wonder if you think things through before you post. I'm middle class and work over 40 hours a week. I'm a single mom and have worked weekends for 10 years even though my job doesn't require it but have done so in order to be at every one of my kids after school activities and sporting events. So are you saying people that have this "tax issue" should totally negating family values? .....who cares about your family, dammit.....work 70 hours a week!!!! With all due respect you need to live a bit more of the adult life before you begin spouting all this stuff. Right now it appears you are living in a glass house.

No, I am saying the excuse that these people who work don't make enough money to pay taxes is a stupid excuse. If they can't afford it, than maybe they should stop making excuses and do what it takes. If they cannot afford to pay an equal share of taxes, than maybe they shouldn't be having their kids. These people bitch and bitch and bitch and excuses are made for them when they are their own worst enemy.

Sound logic dictates that if you can't afford kids, than you should wrap your tool or better yet not have sex. Or better yet, if you're not in a committed, healthy marriage with someone you can trust long term, you shouldn't have kids.

So often people are excused for the poor choices they make. I am quite frankly sick of it.

[Partial]

I'm obviously not advocating working moms taking on 2nd jobs so they can pay more tax.

I'm correcting Harlan on his math. He says lower income people pay more tax, and that is not true. They pay less tax.

They only pay more tax - as a percentage of their income. They also pay more for gas, lightbulbs, soup, hair dryers, crayons, recliners and toothpaste - as a percentage of their income. That's part of the advantage of having more money - you actually get to buy more stuff if you like. Unless Handout Harlan gets his way.

Ding ding ding.

Except that if they cannot afford to have kids and contribute their fair share, then they should get another job, or not have kids. Having kids is a choice, after all, and if you can't afford to pay taxes than you can't afford to give a kid a good life.