Recession coming

[The Leaper]

Clinton didn't slash the defense budget. It was Bush that cut the funding for services to the vets. Thanks, George. Those guys didn't do anything for you...

MJ, you have selective memory.

Defense spending was greatly decreased throughout the 1990s...it actually began under Bush Sr. His last budget plan called for a 19% decrease in the defense budget from 1992-1999. During that period under Clinton after Bush was defeated in 1992, the budget actually did decrease 18%.

It was mostly a bipartisan effort...I'm not blaming Clinton for it, nor am I going to be someone who suggests those cuts were the reason for 9/11...but to claim the budget wasn't slashed during Clinton's tenure is hogwash.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Clinton didn't slash the defense budget. It was Bush that cut the funding for services to the vets. Thanks, George. Those guys didn't do anything for you...

MJ, you have selective memory.

Defense spending was greatly decreased throughout the 1990s...it actually began under Bush Sr. His last budget plan called for a 19% decrease in the defense budget from 1992-1999. During that period under Clinton after Bush was defeated in 1992, the budget actually did decrease 18%.

It was mostly a bipartisan effort...I'm not blaming Clinton for it, nor am I going to be someone who suggests those cuts were the reason for 9/11...but to claim the budget wasn't slashed during Clinton's tenure is hogwash.

Actually, you would be wrong.

Under Clinton the defense budget ROSE as compared to Bush Sr.

[Partial]

OK, how can you argue he did not cut it more?!?

Was it not lower after he cut it a lower percentage after Bush SR had already given it a hearty cut?

Is taking off 10% of something after someone takes 20% off of something first not less?

The fact of the matter is he was irresponsible and deemed it unnecessary to have even the amount that Bush cut it to. So he cut it even smaller. Than we were attacked.

[Scott Campbell]

Interesting that Clinton appears to have the slowest rate of total growth.

[The Leaper]

Actually, you would be wrong.

Under Clinton the defense budget ROSE as compared to Bush Sr.

No, I'm not wrong...and your own chart proves my point. Defense spending DECREASED under Clinton. I also mentioned that it began under Bush Sr.

Go back to your smoking your pipe Ty.

[Partial]

Actually, you would be wrong.

Under Clinton the defense budget ROSE as compared to Bush Sr.

No, I'm not wrong...and your own chart proves my point. Defense spending DECREASED under Clinton. That was my point.

After a decrease from a previous regime to boot. Seems like Slick Willy really did not value the safety of people or a progressing society from the chart.

[Freak Out]

Defense spending NEEDS TO DECREASE!

[Harlan Huckleby]

Defense spending NEEDS TO DECREASE!

how can that happen? there is general agreement that the troops are spread too thin. Disengagement from Iraq is going to be slow.

U.S. is caught.

[The Leaper]

After a decrease from a previous regime to boot. Seems like Slick Willy really did not value the safety of people or a progressing society from the chart.

It has nothing to do with that Partial.

Our military spending went up a lot under Reagan, and it had gone up a lot in general even before that because of the Cold War. Once the Cold War was over, it was only logical to vastly reduce the decades of spending increases used because of the Cold War.

As I said...it was a bipartisan effort, and not a foolish one considering the circumstances. The problem was that our government as a whole down its guard when the Berlin Wall fell. We failed to recognize the growing threat terrorism was fostering...and how it would impact us as the remaining world superpower.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Actually, you would be wrong.

Under Clinton the defense budget ROSE as compared to Bush Sr.

No, I'm not wrong...and your own chart proves my point. Defense spending DECREASED under Clinton. I also mentioned that it began under Bush Sr.

Go back to your smoking your pipe Ty.

Unless i''m reading it wrong, it increased from where it was under Bush sr.

How can you say it decreased? what are you comparing it to?

[Tyrone Bigguns]

OK, how can you argue he did not cut it more?!?

Was it not lower after he cut it a lower percentage after Bush SR had already given it a hearty cut?

Is taking off 10% of something after someone takes 20% off of something first not less?

The fact of the matter is he was irresponsible and deemed it unnecessary to have even the amount that Bush cut it to. So he cut it even smaller. Than we were attacked.

Do you even know how to read a chart? Bush Sr. cut it way more than clinton.

And, there is no correlation between a bunch of terrorists flying a plane into buildings a defense budget. That is FBI shit.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

After a decrease from a previous regime to boot. Seems like Slick Willy really did not value the safety of people or a progressing society from the chart.

It has nothing to do with that Partial.

Our military spending went up a lot under Reagan, and it had gone up a lot in general even before that because of the Cold War. Once the Cold War was over, it was only logical to vastly reduce the decades of spending increases used because of the Cold War.

As I said...it was a bipartisan effort, and not a foolish one considering the circumstances. The problem was that our government as a whole down its guard when the Berlin Wall fell. We failed to recognize the growing threat terrorism was fostering...and how it would impact us as the remaining world superpower.

agreed.

Not to mention how partial ignores the success we had fighting in the 'stan and Iraq. That military is the one that Clinton made...as Cheney even said.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Interesting that Clinton appears to have the slowest rate of total growth.

Chart is always fun to use when repubs talk about runaway democratic spending.

Somehow spending for the military industrial complex that Ike warned us about doesn't constitute spending for repubs.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Here is another fun chart for my little republican friends.

[The Leaper]

That's a whole lotta downward trending for the Bush family. Someone please take their credit cards away.