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  • #31
    Harlan. It feels good to be in your arms again.

    We're like Mary Matalin and James Carville.
    [QUOTE=George Cumby] ...every draft (Ted) would pick a solid, dependable, smart, athletically limited linebacker...the guy who isn't doing drugs, going to strip bars, knocking around his girlfriend or making any plays of game changing significance.

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    • #32
      No pictures please.
      I can't run no more
      With that lawless crowd
      While the killers in high places
      Say their prayers out loud
      But they've summoned, they've summoned up
      A thundercloud
      They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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      • #33
        Originally posted by swede
        Harlan. It feels good to be in your arms again.

        We're like Mary Matalin and James Carville.
        I knew you were a log cabin republican!

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        • #34
          Originally posted by swede
          Harlan. It feels good to be in your arms again.

          Pfft. And Mad said he couldn't get laid.

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          • #35
            C.H.U.D.

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            • #36
              any love is good love

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              • #37
                Obama gave a great speech, impossible to do better.

                I don't think it will change anybody's mind one way or another about The Bullfrog, but it adds to Obama's prestige.

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                • #38
                  50/50 chance that the Jerimiah Wright story was leaked to the press by the Obama Campaign, for numerous reasons.
                  "I've got one word for you- Dallas, Texas, Super Bowl"- Jermichael Finley

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                  • #39
                    Obama decided today that if he has to throw his pastor under the bus in order for him to be President, then he won't be President. Some Americans will be disappointed in that. So be it. His speech, if heard/read in its entirety, showed a depth the others can't match.
                    I can't run no more
                    With that lawless crowd
                    While the killers in high places
                    Say their prayers out loud
                    But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                    A thundercloud
                    They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Joemailman
                      Obama decided today that if he has to throw his pastor under the bus in order for him to be President, then he won't be President. Some Americans will be disappointed in that. So be it. His speech, if heard/read in its entirety, showed a depth the others can't match.
                      Huh?

                      I don't see the depth. Obama HAD to sit in those pews to earn the respect of blacks. He wasn't a REAL black man...at least in the terms most blacks who sit in those pews see the world by. He was raised by a white mother and her parents in Hawaii...hardly a black man's world. Embracing the social justice message was a way Obama could show blacks that he was one of them...a soldier crusading against injustice.

                      As such, turning his back on this pastor would be like turning his back on blacks...and that would be political suicide for Obama.

                      As such, I don't see why this is such a show of depth. Like most of Obama's moves to this point in his life, the only depth lies in what it means to his political career and aspirations. Obama was hoping like mad that this never came up...he knew full well how controversial this would look to mainstream America, and I'm sure he was working on today's speech for some time.

                      I agree strongly with this guy's take in the WSJ. Some may see it as putting down blacks, but I don't. We all have our own "bargains" that we employ in life to mask our inferiorities and weaknesses. This is Obama's...yours or mine might be different, but they are still there.

                      My signature has NUDITY in it...whatcha gonna do?

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Joemailman
                        Obama decided today that if he has to throw his pastor under the bus in order for him to be President, then he won't be President. Some Americans will be disappointed in that. So be it.
                        It was also a strategically wise tack. His other options were worse. Throwing Wright under the bus would have ended his candidacy.

                        I don't question Obama's character, but don't see the speech as brave.

                        Originally posted by Joemailman
                        His speech, if heard/read in its entirety, showed a depth the others can't match.
                        It was serious & thoughtful. He's a great speaker. I don't know how his depth compares to Hillary or McCain.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by The Leaper
                          As such, turning his back on this pastor would be like turning his back on blacks...and that would be political suicide for Obama.
                          This is correct. Offensive to many white people too. (I'm a white people, I can speak for them.)

                          I can't imagine how Obama could have handled the situation any better than he did. He made a sincere and impressive case.

                          This issue of why he stayed in the church so long is the biggy that remains.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by BallHawk
                            50/50 chance that the Jerimiah Wright story was leaked to the press by the Obama Campaign, for numerous reasons.
                            Possible. They knew this was going to come out at some point. Now...after all the primaries are mostly done and we have a 6 week lag until the last few wrap up the process...is as good as any for this issue to come to light and impart the least actual impact to Obama's campaign.
                            My signature has NUDITY in it...whatcha gonna do?

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                              It was also a strategically wise tack. His other options were worse. Throwing Wright under the bus would have ended his candidacy.
                              Ended his candidacy is going a bit too far. It would of made him look like a typical dirty politician and he would of lost some of the black vote, but I wouldn't say it would even be close to ending his candidacy.
                              "I've got one word for you- Dallas, Texas, Super Bowl"- Jermichael Finley

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                                This issue of why he stayed in the church so long is the biggy that remains.
                                I think it is even more of a problem in light of the comments that his wife has given. Without her comments, I think it is easier for Obama to get away from this.
                                My signature has NUDITY in it...whatcha gonna do?

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