A More Perfect Union

[Harlan Huckleby]

Re: A More Perfect Union

BTW - It is because of PackerRats that I can tell Mexicans I have white friends.

Friend. Partial, maybe.

[The Leaper]

Re: A More Perfect Union

Not that difficult: you compare people with the same professional degrees from reputable institutions. Or people with degrees from Big Ten schools. Or whatever.

Really?

So if you squeak by with a 2.6 GPA, you have the same qualifications as someone graduating from the same place with a 3.8 just because you graduated from reputable institutions?

What about actual qualifications once IN the real world? How do you determine if someone in one company really has the same responsibiilty and performance as someone in another company with an equivalent job title? For starters, not all organizations label their jobs the same as others...a senior level position at one company may be a mid-level job in another.

It isn't easy to suggest a large group of people have "similar qualifications", because usually they do not. You would have to do a tremendous amount of research to find a large group of people who actually did possess "similar qualifications"...and few studies have the resources or desire to accomplish that.

[The Leaper]

It would be wrong however, to suggest that in order to be a racist you must have power.

Absolutely. I agree 100%.

[SkinBasket]

My uncomfortableness for Eminem is equal to that of Dr Dre. It has to do with their ghetto attitudes, not their skin tone.

I'm sure their "uncomfortableness" toward an overly privileged naive white kid with a penchant for blindly judging others probably surpasses yours for them.

You might understand that if you ever considered that you are not the model for being a successful human, despite what your mom tells you every night before tucking you in.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

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Or as my black friends say..at least in the south we know what they think, in the north they are just quiet about it.

Black friends? So you dont just call them your FRIENDS?

Maybe you are one of those people that has to tell people he has black friends to feel better about himself?

BTW - It is because of PackerRats that I can tell Mexicans I have white friends.

Of course I am one of those people. www.stuffwhitepeoplelike.com....having black friends.

I used "black" because we are TALKING about racism. My friends don't say that...a subsection of them do. Just as another subsection makes fun of the crappy coldcuts goyim eat, etc.

[Deputy Nutz]

I like how black people call each other, "sugar". Thats cool that white people just don't have.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

I like how black people call each other, "sugar". Thats cool that white people just don't have.

It's funny you say that...as i get called that all the time. Last night at Walgreens the cashier said that to me...then apologized.

BTW, you go to Fox Sports Grille?

[MadtownPacker]

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Of course I am one of those people. www.stuffwhitepeoplelike.com....having black friends.

I used "black" because we are TALKING about racism. My friends don't say that...a subsection of them do. Just as another subsection makes fun of the crappy coldcuts goyim eat, etc.

I own you.

[Harlan Huckleby]

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Just as another subsection makes fun of the crappy coldcuts goyim eat, etc.

pastrami at a real deli is the food of the gods.

[hoosier]

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Not that difficult: you compare people with the same professional degrees from reputable institutions. Or people with degrees from Big Ten schools. Or whatever.

Really?

So if you squeak by with a 2.6 GPA, you have the same qualifications as someone graduating from the same place with a 3.8 just because you graduated from reputable institutions?

What about actual qualifications once IN the real world? How do you determine if someone in one company really has the same responsibiilty and performance as someone in another company with an equivalent job title? For starters, not all organizations label their jobs the same as others...a senior level position at one company may be a mid-level job in another.

It isn't easy to suggest a large group of people have "similar qualifications", because usually they do not. You would have to do a tremendous amount of research to find a large group of people who actually did possess "similar qualifications"...and few studies have the resources or desire to accomplish that.

Come on, we're talking about comparing two large social groups, not four kids who just graduated from the same school. Individual differences in aptitude, dedication, etc. will tend to become insignificant when you look at large groups, while social trends (such as how these groups tend to view other groups) become correspondingly more significant. If you can take a large group and show that, on average, black men in their late 30's and early 40's with college degrees and families earn less than white men of the same age group, same degrees and same family status--and that women meeting the same criteria earn even less--then all of the individual differences you're talking about become statistically meaningless.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Both John McCain & Joe Biden graduated near the bottom of their classes.

School doesn't predict that much.

[Partial]

That may be true, P, but be honest with yourself, when you think of the ghetto, what pops into your head? I'd be willing to bet you think of a strong black dude with pants 3 sizes too big and a do-rag long before you consider a white guy with missing teeth and his 400-lb wife. The only thing is that it's the same dude, different neighborhood.

I'm no big fan of the ghetto culture (which if you think about it, is different from the ghetto itself). I think it glorifies violence and perpetuates stereotypes, but to say that everyone in the ghetto has a ghetto attitude is being overly simplistic. Again, things are not black and white nor as simple as you wish them to be.

I STILL don't think that is racism. When there are 10x more of the former than the later that is probability.

[Partial]

My uncomfortableness for Eminem is equal to that of Dr Dre. It has to do with their ghetto attitudes, not their skin tone.

I'm sure their "uncomfortableness" toward an overly privileged naive white kid with a penchant for blindly judging others probably surpasses yours for them.

You might understand that if you ever considered that you are not the model for being a successful human, despite what your mom tells you every night before tucking you in.

I think it's time you get off your high horse. You're annoying as fuck. And completely full of shit.

[SkinBasket]

I think it's time you get off your high horse. You're annoying as fuck. And completely full of shit.

[Deputy Nutz]

I like how black people call each other, "sugar". Thats cool that white people just don't have.

It's funny you say that...as i get called that all the time. Last night at Walgreens the cashier said that to me...then apologized.

BTW, you go to Fox Sports Grille?

I didn't get to any bar to watch the game but thanks again for all the recommendations. I didn't get off the golf course until 6:30 and the game had already started and I had to have dinner with the family.

I love Scottsdale everything you need and very few black people.