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  • #16
    I think Dylan is ok, never got into his music very much.

    Lennon and McCartney are pretty much the cream at the top. It is hard to put anyone above them in terms of song writting.

    Lets not forget Neil Diamond. Fantastic song writer, absolutely fantastic.

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    • #17
      Love on the rocks
      Aint no surprise
      Pour me a drink
      And I'll tell you some lies
      Got nothing to lose
      So you just sing the blues all the time
      "I've got one word for you- Dallas, Texas, Super Bowl"- Jermichael Finley

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      • #18
        Why the thread title, though? Wasn't Blowin' in the Wind a Peter, Paul, and Mary song? Or did Dylan write it for them?
        What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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        • #19
          Originally posted by texaspackerbacker
          Why the thread title, though? Wasn't Blowin' in the Wind a Peter, Paul, and Mary song? Or did Dylan write it for them?
          no, dylan wrote it for himself

          they covered it, along with just about everyone else

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          • #20
            Lennon and Mac...well, that is TWO people together. That doesn't even compare to dylan. Dylan started as a folkie, moved into rock n roll, did country, etc...and influenced more artists and writing styles. You wouldn't have such artists as Joni Mitchell.

            There isn't really one song that the beatles put out that had the cultural influence of "blowin in the wind" or "the times they are-a-changin"..major anti war and civil rights anthems.

            Not to mention that dylan didn't start his career with such great lyrics as ...she loves you, yeah yeah yeah.

            If we are talking songwriting partners then you could list difford/tillbrook, goffin/king, holland/dozier/dozier, forster/mclennnan (who christgau said were the greatest working when they were still together in the go-betweens), mick/keef, strummer/jones, john/taupin, marr/morrissey, becker/fagen, jerry/hunter, lieber/stoller, etc.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
              I think Dylan is ok, never got into his music very much.

              Lennon and McCartney are pretty much the cream at the top. It is hard to put anyone above them in terms of song writting.
              Agreed.
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              • #22
                I'm afraid I'm more of a James Taylor fan.
                70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.

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                • #23
                  Though I admired Dylan's lyrics, I never liked his voice.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                    Lennon and Mac...well, that is TWO people together. That doesn't even compare to dylan. Dylan started as a folkie, moved into rock n roll, did country, etc...and influenced more artists and writing styles. You wouldn't have such artists as Joni Mitchell.

                    There isn't really one song that the beatles put out that had the cultural influence of "blowin in the wind" or "the times they are-a-changin"..major anti war and civil rights anthems.
                    McCartney wrote the majority of songs and lyrics. Lennon would add a line or two and because of the pact they made earlier in their careers, all of their songs would be listed Lennon/McCartney.

                    Dylan influenced writing styles. The Beatles changed music. Show me a Dylan album that has the effect on the music industry that Sgt. Pepper did. Listen, Dylan is great and I like his music, to a degree, but if we're comparing Dylan to Beatles, there is no comparison.

                    In regards to Dylan's political statements, that was his thing. The Beatles interjected politics into some of their music, but they had a different musical ambition than Dylan.

                    Two complete different types of music. However, both are great. IMO, though, The Beatles were just flat out better musically and lyrically.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by 3irty1
                      I'm afraid I'm more of a James Taylor fan.
                      Sweet Baby James will always top my list.

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                      • #26
                        Abbey Road changed music for ever.
                        Originally posted by 3irty1
                        This is museum quality stupidity.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by 3irty1
                          I'm afraid I'm more of a James Taylor fan.
                          what?

                          i what to shoot myself every time i here a james taylor song. he has to be the most boring singer of all time

                          crap puts me to sleep

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by red
                            Originally posted by 3irty1
                            I'm afraid I'm more of a James Taylor fan.
                            what?

                            i what to shoot myself every time i here a james taylor song. he has to be the most boring singer of all time

                            crap puts me to sleep
                            Yeah..........he's a nobody, no staying power.....

                            A TRIBUTE TO JAMES TAYLOR premiered on November 29, 2006 on PBS

                            With his gentle acoustic sound and insightful lyrics, James Taylor remains one of the most influential and beloved singer-songwriters to emerge from the popular music scene of the 1970s. In a career extending over three decades, Taylor's musical craftsmanship has delighted critics and audiences alike. In recognition of his many achievements in music, as well as his philanthropic efforts, Taylor was honored in February 2006 as "Person of the Year" by the National Academy of Recording Arts and Sciences' MusiCares program. The all-star lineup of performers paying tribute to "Sweet Baby James" includes India Arie, Jackson Browne, David Crosby, Dixie Chicks, Sheryl Crow, Jerry Douglas, Dr. John, Carole King, Alison Krauss, Taj Mahal, Bonnie Raitt, Bruce Springsteen, Sting, and Keith Urban.

                            The MusiCares tribute is just the latest honor for the much-admired musician heralded by TIME magazine as the "originator of the singer-songwriter era" in 1971. In 2000 Taylor was inducted into both the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and the Songwriters Hall of Fame, and BILLBOARD magazine recognized his creative achievements with their Century Award in 1998.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by BallHawk
                              Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                              Lennon and Mac...well, that is TWO people together. That doesn't even compare to dylan. Dylan started as a folkie, moved into rock n roll, did country, etc...and influenced more artists and writing styles. You wouldn't have such artists as Joni Mitchell.

                              There isn't really one song that the beatles put out that had the cultural influence of "blowin in the wind" or "the times they are-a-changin"..major anti war and civil rights anthems.
                              McCartney wrote the majority of songs and lyrics. Lennon would add a line or two and because of the pact they made earlier in their careers, all of their songs would be listed Lennon/McCartney.

                              Dylan influenced writing styles. The Beatles changed music. Show me a Dylan album that has the effect on the music industry that Sgt. Pepper did. Listen, Dylan is great and I like his music, to a degree, but if we're comparing Dylan to Beatles, there is no comparison.

                              In regards to Dylan's political statements, that was his thing. The Beatles interjected politics into some of their music, but they had a different musical ambition than Dylan.

                              Two complete different types of music. However, both are great. IMO, though, The Beatles were just flat out better musically and lyrically.

                              I have to disagree with McCartney doing most of the writing. That is just plain false. McCartney was the only one of the four that could really read music and he did several scores for movies, but Lennon pretty much wrote the music that he was lead vocals on and McCartney was the main influence on the songs that he was the lead vocals on.

                              McCartney and his ego now like to take credit for most of the music they wrote, pulling stunts like listing music on his live cd as McCartney with Lennon, instead of the way it should be, McCartney/Lennon.

                              Three albums that changed music forever, St. Peppers, White Album, and Abbey Road.

                              Albums that don't get credit Rubber Soul and Revolver. Revolver is one of my personal favorites,

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by packinpatland
                                "I don't know how much he influenced anybody. He just continued traditions, added some rock and roll."


                                What is that supposed to mean?????
                                If Dylan hadn't existed, I doubt music would be that different today.

                                Some give him credit for mixing country with rock, but really the Byrds were already there ahead of him.

                                He did push famously push rock on the folk crowd, but so what? Rock and folk pretty much continued on their own separate merry ways.

                                Some say that he got singer-songwriter thing rolling, but that's silly. HE was continuing in the tradition of Woody Guthrie, etc. I don't think James Taylor needed to know how to be a singer-songwriter.

                                His trippy lyrics? He didn't invent poetry.

                                I'm not taking away from what he has accomplished, he is his own genre. I just don't think he changed music very much, and that aspect doesn't matter to me anyway.

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