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  • God, guns & guts - lets keep all three

    Barack really stepped in it. BHO speaking of midwestern small towns:

    "They fell through the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or antitrade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”

  • #2
    Stupid thing to say. Don't talk about what you don't know.

    What he said at the beginning of the quote (which Harlan didn't post) was reasonable, about how people in these towns have seen their jobs taken away and nothing has been done about it. That was OK. The part that Harlan posted was not the right thing to say.
    "I've got one word for you- Dallas, Texas, Super Bowl"- Jermichael Finley

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    • #3
      Yep, this was his worst gaffe of the campaign. He's had other problems, but this is something he said, not his wife or his Pastor. I think I know what he was trying to say, but he did a bad job of saying it. He is a good counter-puncher though, so it will be interesting to see if he can fight this off.
      I can't run no more
      With that lawless crowd
      While the killers in high places
      Say their prayers out loud
      But they've summoned, they've summoned up
      A thundercloud
      They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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      • #4
        I watched Mark Shield's weekly political review friday. He spent several minutes discussing & praising BHO's TV commercials. Shields said the doubts about Obama are not whether he is smart or a good leader, but whether he shares the values of the voter. Sheilds indicated the family-oriented commercials would help close that gap.

        Shields summarized Clinton's week by saying that Bill Clinton's gaffs once again call into question whether Hillary can be trusted.

        How can Obama lose when virtually all of the analysts are in his corner? Obama will survive this latest mess just fine - Shields didn't mention it even tho story was already out. Most likely the story will be spun as Hillary going negative.

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        • #5
          Erotic is when you use a feather, kinky is when you use the whole damn chicken.
          -the_idle_threat, stolen from uncredited source


          Yep ... damn straight I stole it! Actually I read that long ago and don't remember where. I'd credit it if I knew.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Joemailman
            He is a good counter-puncher though
            he is not a good counter-puncher, the press simply accepts and praises his response.

            After Michele Hussein Obama spoke of her first-time pride in America, Barack responded with, "well, my wife obviously was just expressing pride in the new politics I represent." What a laughable re-interpretation! Where were the columnists and commentators taking Obama to the mat? Only few mentioned the disconnect.

            The Wright affair was even more ridiculous. The press generally accepted his explanation that he didn't know about his Pastor's views. Many columnists spun that this was a small and unrepresentative sample of Reverand Wright's philosophy. As opposed to the more realistic assessment that these are just the things he said that got caught on tape when the cameras were rolling!

            And the fawning over Barack's speech on race! Good gracious. To repeat an analogy, this is like when a guy gets spotted by his wife or girlfriend flirting with women in a bar. He comes home and gets out of trouble by delivering a speech on the history of relations between the sexes.

            I have NEVER seen any public figure so idolized and coddled by the press. Geraldine Ferraro had a valid point about liberals loving to be racially progressive.

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            • #7
              Wait a minute. I seem to remember you saying some very kind things about the speech. I agree that the press seems to favor Obama over Hillary, but no candidate has been coddled by the press more than McCain.
              I can't run no more
              With that lawless crowd
              While the killers in high places
              Say their prayers out loud
              But they've summoned, they've summoned up
              A thundercloud
              They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Joemailman
                Wait a minute. I seem to remember you saying some very kind things about the speech.
                It was a fine speech. But really didn't account for fact that he stayed in the church. And his claim of ignorance about the rev's most extreme remarks was not credible. these points ignored in the fawning admiration of columnists.

                Originally posted by Joemailman
                I agree that the press seems to favor Obama over Hillary, but no candidate has been coddled by the press more than McCain.
                sounds like u been listening to Air America, that's all they seem to talk about.

                McCain is well liked & respected. I'll just say that in McCain's case, that respect grew gradually over 15 or 20 years, he didn't come out of the shoot as a media darling.

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                • #9
                  Flush them all and vote Nader you fools.
                  C.H.U.D.

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                  • #10
                    If Nader wanted to be President, he should have run for the Democratic nomination. He would have had a lot of support, and at the very least, would have had some impact on the debate. Given where he is now, it's pretty east for the Dems to ignore him.
                    I can't run no more
                    With that lawless crowd
                    While the killers in high places
                    Say their prayers out loud
                    But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                    A thundercloud
                    They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                    • #11
                      I'm all for people voting for Nader. Have at it! Anybody foolish enough to do so would probably vote for Obama otherwise.

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                      • #12
                        Of course, this year, Nader may be more than offset by Bob Barr.
                        I can't run no more
                        With that lawless crowd
                        While the killers in high places
                        Say their prayers out loud
                        But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                        A thundercloud
                        They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                        • #13
                          hey, tex was saying McCain was only half a loaf. He can vote Bob Barr and get the full monty.

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                          • #14
                            I think Barr is opposed to the occupation of Iraq. He hates America.
                            I can't run no more
                            With that lawless crowd
                            While the killers in high places
                            Say their prayers out loud
                            But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                            A thundercloud
                            They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                            • #15
                              isolationists come from both ends of political spectrum. Pat Buchanon is example of old school conservative isolationist who is against every war. "liberal" used to mean internationalist. Nixon was considered a liberal back in 50's cause he took hard line against soviet union.

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