Iraq War Costs hit home

[Freak Out]

Germany didn't attack us directly? Ha ha ha ha ha........

We entered the war long before they attacked us. We were covertly supporting the British long before they made a direct attack.

The German navy sank so many merchant marine vessels its staggering....and there was really nothing covert about our support for the British before a declaration of war was made.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Germany didn't attack us directly? Ha ha ha ha ha........

We entered the war long before they attacked us. We were covertly supporting the British long before they made a direct attack.

The German navy sank so many merchant marine vessels its staggering....and there was really nothing covert about our support for the British before a declaration of war was made.

I guess that all depends on the "facts."

We definitely were involved in covert ops long before it was even established that there were covert acts. Have you read "A man called intrepid?"

[Freak Out]

Germany didn't attack us directly? Ha ha ha ha ha........

We entered the war long before they attacked us. We were covertly supporting the British long before they made a direct attack.

The German navy sank so many merchant marine vessels its staggering....and there was really nothing covert about our support for the British before a declaration of war was made.

I guess that all depends on the "facts."

We definitely were involved in covert ops long before it was even established that there were covert acts. Have you read "A man called intrepid?"

Of course we were involved in covert ops....my post was relating to the statement someone made (Tex?) about Germany not attacking us directly...which is ludicrous. How is sinking tonnes and tonnes of US merchant shipping not attacking us directly? That was long before any formal declaration of war was made.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Germany didn't attack us directly? Ha ha ha ha ha........

We entered the war long before they attacked us. We were covertly supporting the British long before they made a direct attack.

The German navy sank so many merchant marine vessels its staggering....and there was really nothing covert about our support for the British before a declaration of war was made.

I guess that all depends on the "facts."

We definitely were involved in covert ops long before it was even established that there were covert acts. Have you read "A man called intrepid?"

Of course we were involved in covert ops....my post was relating to the statement someone made (Tex?) about Germany not attacking us directly...which is ludicrous. How is sinking tonnes and tonnes of US merchant shipping not attacking us directly? That was long before any formal declaration of war was made.

Ludricous?

You found this statement as the one that is ludicrous.

[MJZiggy]

Mind you, I just jumped into the end of this thread, but we entered WWII because JAPAN attacked us, not Germany. Pearl Harbor and all that. Japan and Germany were allies.

[Zool]

Much before that Zig is the discussion. Plus IIRC there were plans to go into the war anyways, but the Pearl Harbor attack just ramped those plans up 6-8 months.

[texaspackerbacker]

There you guys go AGAIN--diverting from the present and seizing on a basically casual comment I made about Germany not attacking us directly. Yeah, sure, the U-Boats sinking merchant ships stuff was true, as well as the covert activities. I think it's a safe assumption we had a few covert things going against Saddam too, and for sure, Saddam was paying bounties to the families of suicide bombers and probably a whole lot more.

The point is the SIMILARITY.

That whole discussion, though, is insignificant compared to the original point of this thread: A Benefit versus Cost analysis of the war in Iraq.

And in that arena, the ONLY ways you come out AGAINST the war is if you totally discount the value of American lives save by preventing terrorist hits against America or if you are in total DENIAL of the portion of contribution to preventing those acts of terror that comes from having al Qaeda choose messing up Iraq over hitting us at home.

Leftists in this forum and outside of it would probably take those ludicrous positions, but they would be WRONG.

[Zool]

There you guys go AGAIN--diverting from the present and seizing on a basically casual comment I made about Germany not attacking us directly. Yeah, sure, the U-Boats sinking merchant ships stuff was true, as well as the covert activities. I think it's a safe assumption we had a few covert things going against Saddam too, and for sure, Saddam was paying bounties to the families of suicide bombers and probably a whole lot more.

The point is the SIMILARITY.

That whole discussion, though, is insignificant compared to the original point of this thread: A Benefit versus Cost analysis of the war in Iraq.

And in that arena, the ONLY ways you come out AGAINST the war is if you totally discount the value of American lives save by preventing terrorist hits against America or if you are in total DENIAL of the portion of contribution to preventing those acts of terror that comes from having al Qaeda choose messing up Iraq over hitting us at home.

Leftists in this forum and outside of it would probably take those ludicrous positions, but they would be WRONG.

God DAMN it must be a burden to be you. I applaud you for putting up with it.

[MJZiggy]

There you guys go AGAIN--diverting from the present and seizing on a basically casual comment I made about Germany not attacking us directly. Yeah, sure, the U-Boats sinking merchant ships stuff was true, as well as the covert activities. I think it's a safe assumption we had a few covert things going against Saddam too, and for sure, Saddam was paying bounties to the families of suicide bombers and probably a whole lot more.

The point is the SIMILARITY.

That whole discussion, though, is insignificant compared to the original point of this thread: A Benefit versus Cost analysis of the war in Iraq.

And in that arena, the ONLY ways you come out AGAINST the war is if you totally discount the value of American lives save by preventing terrorist hits against America or if you are in total DENIAL of the portion of contribution to preventing those acts of terror that comes from having al Qaeda choose messing up Iraq over hitting us at home.

Leftists in this forum and outside of it would probably take those ludicrous positions, but they would be WRONG.

I told you I jumped in at the end, and what makes you think I'm leftist?

[texaspackerbacker]

I hadn't even seen your post, Ziggy. I think it went up while I was typing.

Besides, I was talking about those whining about war costs being too much in comparison to benefits--and I haven't heard/read you expressing any of that bad stuff.

[hoosier]

There you guys go AGAIN--diverting from the present and seizing on a basically casual comment I made about Germany not attacking us directly. Yeah, sure, the U-Boats sinking merchant ships stuff was true, as well as the covert activities. I think it's a safe assumption we had a few covert things going against Saddam too, and for sure, Saddam was paying bounties to the families of suicide bombers and probably a whole lot more.

The point is the SIMILARITY.

That whole discussion, though, is insignificant compared to the original point of this thread: A Benefit versus Cost analysis of the war in Iraq.

And in that arena, the ONLY ways you come out AGAINST the war is if you totally discount the value of American lives save by preventing terrorist hits against America or if you are in total DENIAL of the portion of contribution to preventing those acts of terror that comes from having al Qaeda choose messing up Iraq over hitting us at home.

Leftists in this forum and outside of it would probably take those ludicrous positions, but they would be WRONG.

God DAMN it must be a burden to be you. I applaud you for putting up with it.

LOL

[Partial]

I told you I jumped in at the end, and what makes you think I'm leftist?

are you serious?

[texaspackerbacker]

There you guys go AGAIN--diverting from the present and seizing on a basically casual comment I made about Germany not attacking us directly. Yeah, sure, the U-Boats sinking merchant ships stuff was true, as well as the covert activities. I think it's a safe assumption we had a few covert things going against Saddam too, and for sure, Saddam was paying bounties to the families of suicide bombers and probably a whole lot more.

The point is the SIMILARITY.

That whole discussion, though, is insignificant compared to the original point of this thread: A Benefit versus Cost analysis of the war in Iraq.

And in that arena, the ONLY ways you come out AGAINST the war is if you totally discount the value of American lives save by preventing terrorist hits against America or if you are in total DENIAL of the portion of contribution to preventing those acts of terror that comes from having al Qaeda choose messing up Iraq over hitting us at home.

Leftists in this forum and outside of it would probably take those ludicrous positions, but they would be WRONG.

God DAMN it must be a burden to be you. I applaud you for putting up with it.

LOL

Can I take that as your plaintiff wail of surrender? If so, just for yourself, or for the whole leftist faction?

[hoosier]

There you guys go AGAIN--diverting from the present and seizing on a basically casual comment I made about Germany not attacking us directly. Yeah, sure, the U-Boats sinking merchant ships stuff was true, as well as the covert activities. I think it's a safe assumption we had a few covert things going against Saddam too, and for sure, Saddam was paying bounties to the families of suicide bombers and probably a whole lot more.

The point is the SIMILARITY.

That whole discussion, though, is insignificant compared to the original point of this thread: A Benefit versus Cost analysis of the war in Iraq.

And in that arena, the ONLY ways you come out AGAINST the war is if you totally discount the value of American lives save by preventing terrorist hits against America or if you are in total DENIAL of the portion of contribution to preventing those acts of terror that comes from having al Qaeda choose messing up Iraq over hitting us at home.

Leftists in this forum and outside of it would probably take those ludicrous positions, but they would be WRONG.

God DAMN it must be a burden to be you. I applaud you for putting up with it.

LOL

Can I take that as your plaintiff wail of surrender? If so, just for yourself, or for the whole leftist faction?

Hardly. It was appreciation for the comic relief provided by Zool.

[Zool]

Ohh no, everyone that disagrees with Tex on anything is a leftist commie scumbag. Whether or not you identify yourself that way, you are one. Just ask him.

BTW Tex ol' boy, not everyone defines themselves by some sort of outdated 2 party political system. Some of us have actual brains that function. We can see something on each side thats good and bad. It doesnt always have to be us against them you elitist douche bag. Listen carefully now, you're NOT better than anyone else despite what you think. Your shit stinks just the same as mine, well maybe less. I had mexican lastnight and I love me some refried beans. I know this wont make a dent and you'll come back with something totally off the wall that will make me laugh, but I felt like typing it. Its the exact same thing I've typed many times over to deebs like you. You'd think I would get tired of typing it, but no. I'm a masochist.