Gas prices

[LL2]

Damn oil companies.... $3.45 yesterday 4/16, same gas station this morning $3.51

Crap!! $3.65 .. What the hell are they paying in Cali?!?!

For you retailguy: "damn Government, and the damned environmentalists" are now on my bitch list

Thanks

I appreciate it.

When the mandated summer blends are fully rolled out, you should see pump prices stabilize somewhat, I'd think. But we shall see....

Premium in California is over $4.00 - at least in Ventura County where my friend lives.

Tyrone - Macro Economics would dictate that we probably won't go into a depression. Eventually, the prices of other goods will have to adjust, some increasing but others decreasing. Will it hurt some folks in the short term? Absolutely.

FWIW - when you are dependent upon others you do what you have to do. The 12 countries that make up OPEC control 40% of the worlds supply and 2/3rds of the worlds reserves. While becoming "energy independent" probably won't happen, making a meaningful dent in those numbers would help... In the meantime, we'll all just pay it, won't we?

Tyrone made no speculation regarding econ. Posed what tex would say.

No need to address Tyrone. Tyrone lives in a cardboard box with no car. Gas prices are of no concern...cept when he is asked to torch a restaurant for insurance money.

Tyrone, that must be a pretty good position to be in. No need to worry about gas for the car and no utility bills.

If we can just get the fricken Mexicans to start working harder and produce more oil to send to their freindly neighbors to the north ....that would be nice...ya know.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

No need to address Tyrone. Tyrone lives in a cardboard box with no car. Gas prices are of no concern...cept when he is asked to torch a restaurant for insurance money.

Ever see the film "Amores perros"? I think you need to change Tyrone's name to El Chivo.

Tyrone doesn't watch foreign films..and hates anyone who refers to movies as film, cinema or flicks.

Those people are just hateful, america hatin liberals. who would choose to watch a movie made by non americans about non americans? Liberals.

Tyrone has heard of this movie. Tyrone will consider renaming himself. Though, tyrone has long favored Leon as his preferred hitman. Tyrone likes to think of himself as a cool french hitman..and also someone who is attracted to young teenage girls.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Damn oil companies.... $3.45 yesterday 4/16, same gas station this morning $3.51

Crap!! $3.65 .. What the hell are they paying in Cali?!?!

For you retailguy: "damn Government, and the damned environmentalists" are now on my bitch list

Thanks

I appreciate it.

When the mandated summer blends are fully rolled out, you should see pump prices stabilize somewhat, I'd think. But we shall see....

Premium in California is over $4.00 - at least in Ventura County where my friend lives.

Tyrone - Macro Economics would dictate that we probably won't go into a depression. Eventually, the prices of other goods will have to adjust, some increasing but others decreasing. Will it hurt some folks in the short term? Absolutely.

FWIW - when you are dependent upon others you do what you have to do. The 12 countries that make up OPEC control 40% of the worlds supply and 2/3rds of the worlds reserves. While becoming "energy independent" probably won't happen, making a meaningful dent in those numbers would help... In the meantime, we'll all just pay it, won't we?

Tyrone made no speculation regarding econ. Posed what tex would say.

No need to address Tyrone. Tyrone lives in a cardboard box with no car. Gas prices are of no concern...cept when he is asked to torch a restaurant for insurance money.

Tyrone, that must be a pretty good position to be in. No need to worry about gas for the car and no utility bills.

If we can just get the fricken Mexicans to start working harder and produce more oil to send to their freindly neighbors to the north ....that would be nice...ya know.

We can get plenty of oil from the mexicans..if we just collect if off their greasy hair.

[texaspackerbacker]

As always, about 90% of the "bad news" the panic-stricken lefties post is speculation by other panic-stricken lefties in the media.

It's true that the weaker dollar is part of the reason for rising oil prices. It's also true that there is both a good side and a bad side to a lower value of the dollar. Basically, the Bush Administration shapers of economic policy are trying to skate the fine line of lowering the dollar enough but not too much.

It's blatantly stupid to talk about "recession going to depression" when there's no way in hell we are even in a recession. How many times do I have to beat you lefties over the head with the truth? There is a simple objective definition of recession--TWO CONSECUTIVE QUARTERS OF ECONOMIC DOWNTURN--and we have not even had one.

I heard it stated on MSNBC yesterday--I swear it was in a hopeful tone of voice that 30% of economists think we will have a recession. Oh no, that's terrible--until you stop and think that it means 70% of economists think we will NOT have a recession.

I wouldn't be surprised if gas prices go up 30 or 40 more cents before peaking in the summer. Ask yourself, how many miles you drive a month, how many gallons you buy, and how much extra money you will have to spend. Then ask yourself if it is REALLY that big a deal.

[Gunakor]

As always, about 90% of the "bad news" the panic-stricken lefties post is speculation by other panic-stricken lefties in the media.

It's true that the weaker dollar is part of the reason for rising oil prices. It's also true that there is both a good side and a bad side to a lower value of the dollar. Basically, the Bush Administration shapers of economic policy are trying to skate the fine line of lowering the dollar enough but not too much.

It's blatantly stupid to talk about "recession going to depression" when there's no way in hell we are even in a recession. How many times do I have to beat you lefties over the head with the truth? There is a simple objective definition of recession--TWO CONSECUTIVE QUARTERS OF ECONOMIC DOWNTURN--and we have not even had one.

I heard it stated on MSNBC yesterday--I swear it was in a hopeful tone of voice that 30% of economists think we will have a recession. Oh no, that's terrible--until you stop and think that it means 70% of economists think we will NOT have a recession.

I wouldn't be surprised if gas prices go up 30 or 40 more cents before peaking in the summer. Ask yourself, how many miles you drive a month, how many gallons you buy, and how much extra money you will have to spend. Then ask yourself if it is REALLY that big a deal.

It's not all about how much WE drive Tex. Shipping costs will go up, which will raise the cost of consumer goods. The price of travel will go up which will mean many will have to change thier vacation plans or cancel them altogether. Farmers will have to spend more to harvest their crop, so the price of fresh produce will increase. These are just examples, and there are more. Gas prices affect more than just your daily commute. It affects your daily life in general.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

As always, about 90% of the "bad news" the panic-stricken lefties post is speculation by other panic-stricken lefties in the media.

It's true that the weaker dollar is part of the reason for rising oil prices. It's also true that there is both a good side and a bad side to a lower value of the dollar. Basically, the Bush Administration shapers of economic policy are trying to skate the fine line of lowering the dollar enough but not too much.

It's blatantly stupid to talk about "recession going to depression" when there's no way in hell we are even in a recession. How many times do I have to beat you lefties over the head with the truth? There is a simple objective definition of recession--TWO CONSECUTIVE QUARTERS OF ECONOMIC DOWNTURN--and we have not even had one.

I heard it stated on MSNBC yesterday--I swear it was in a hopeful tone of voice that 30% of economists think we will have a recession. Oh no, that's terrible--until you stop and think that it means 70% of economists think we will NOT have a recession.

I wouldn't be surprised if gas prices go up 30 or 40 more cents before peaking in the summer. Ask yourself, how many miles you drive a month, how many gallons you buy, and how much extra money you will have to spend. Then ask yourself if it is REALLY that big a deal.

It's not all about how much WE drive Tex. Shipping costs will go up, which will raise the cost of consumer goods. The price of travel will go up which will mean many will have to change thier vacation plans or cancel them altogether. Farmers will have to spend more to harvest their crop, so the price of fresh produce will increase. These are just examples, and there are more. Gas prices affect more than just your daily commute. It affects your daily life in general.

Gunakor,

Exactly. Tex has been using the same lame argument back when gas was a 1.60...it never hurts that much.

Tex fails to understand that even if it is only an extra 10 a week, that is 10 that someone doesn't spend in the economy..and that adds up. Let's say that I don't go out to eat for lunch one less time a week. No biggie to me..cept for mental sanity. But, for the waitress it is an extra 2 dollars...now multiply that by X amount of customers. Quicly adds up. Add in that the restaurant doesn't do as well.

How about this tex...if it isn't that much..how about you give that amount to me. I'll give you my paypal account. After all..it aint' that much.

I had a conversation about this a couple of days ago, in respect to teenagers.

When i was a teen...minimum wage was approx 2.50-3 bucks. Gas was 50 cents. So, for 1 hour of work, i got approx 6 gallons of gas.

Even when the war started...gas was around a buck..minimum wage was in the mid 4s. So, it was a 4 to one ratio.

Now, compare with today. Minimum wage is around 5 beans. Gas is hovering around 3.50 or so. So, a teenager doesn't get even 2 gallons of gas for one our of work. There is no way teens can spend the way the use.

Now, everyone knows that teenagers have tons of discretionary income..or at least they use to. No way can they spend the same amount on music or clothes or whatever.

[texaspackerbacker]

I keep hearing about how everything is gonna go up so much, but I don't see it happening. Do you?

Same ol' same ol'--the negativists of the left have a bunch of predictions, but very little in the line of facts.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

I keep hearing about how everything is gonna go up so much, but I don't see it happening. Do you?

Same ol' same ol'--the negativists of the left have a bunch of predictions, but very little in the line of facts.

I just gave you a fact based argument. But, you ignore it.

No way you can say that teenagers have as much discretionary income. Nor do anybody else.

[texaspackerbacker]

Your "fact-based argument" was basically "Oh no, it isn't just driving, everything else is gonna go up horribly too". And that does have a ring of logic to it. But do you honestly see it happening? I sure don't.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Your "fact-based argument" was basically "Oh no, it isn't just driving, everything else is gonna go up horribly too". And that does have a ring of logic to it. But do you honestly see it happening? I sure don't.

Wow. You obviously don't read well or comprehend...since I said nothing of the sort.

Try again.

[texaspackerbacker]

You lost me when you suddenly started talking about "beans" for gas--although I guess gas does come from beans

Weren't you the one who said it was NOT just about gas--when I pointed out how minor the effect on the wallet is when prices go up?

[Tyrone Bigguns]

You lost me when you suddenly started talking about "beans" for gas--although I guess gas does come from beans

Weren't you the one who said it was NOT just about gas--when I pointed out how minor the effect on the wallet is when prices go up?

I gave you a fact based argument. I have yet to see you address it.

[texaspackerbacker]

You lost me when you suddenly started talking about "beans" for gas--although I guess gas does come from beans

Weren't you the one who said it was NOT just about gas--when I pointed out how minor the effect on the wallet is when prices go up?

I gave you a fact based argument. I have yet to see you address it.

Sorry, but i can't find it. I thought you meant that stuff about gas prices, minimum wages, and BEANS when you were a teenager--to which I replied, I thought it wasn't just about gas.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

You lost me when you suddenly started talking about "beans" for gas--although I guess gas does come from beans

Weren't you the one who said it was NOT just about gas--when I pointed out how minor the effect on the wallet is when prices go up?

I gave you a fact based argument. I have yet to see you address it.

Sorry, but i can't find it. I thought you meant that stuff about gas prices, minimum wages, and BEANS when you were a teenager--to which I replied, I thought it wasn't just about gas.

It is a simple fact that I had more discretionary income as a teenager when gas was 1/6 of an hour's worth or work...vs. today when it is roughtly 2/3rds of an hour's worth of work.

I also mentioned going out to lunch.

The fact is text, that since the inception of the war...gas has tripled. If you don't think that effects what people do then you are crazy...people eat out less, take less vacations, have less money to spend on other things.

[texaspackerbacker]

I thought you were kinda "out to lunch". I'm still wondering where the BEANS fit in.

Not to shift the argument from BEANS, but what you're talking about is small potatos--or more likely a handfull of straws to be grasped.

Is it fair to sum up your argument by saying that while the minimum wage has gone up only from $2.50 -3.00 to $6.25 or whatever while gas went up from 50 cents to about $3.50? It would be interesting to know WHEN you were a teenager, as gas was around 72 cents a gallon when we had those gas lines in 1974. I remember that. Anyway, even if taken at face value, your figures are just NOT that big a deal when put in context.

What, you may ask, is that context? The amount of increase in driving cost and other products in relation to the overall income, cost of living, and lifestyle of people.