One Hour With a Packer Rat

[Partial]

It's really hard to take your misogynistic rants about manhood seriously when you still live with your mother.

[manual buzzer]errrrgghhh[/quote]

I suspect the two things are probably related, but I don't want to know how. It's also interesting how, maybe as a result, you tie your enlightening ideas about "manhood" to how much money you make.

I don't, I just it based on your motivation to accomplish something, how driven one is, etc. My disdain has to do with you talking about how HARD it is to be a stay at home parent, and how you struggle to break 10 minutes away every day to post, sleep or play video games.. AKA more of your bullshit since you stalk these boards all day.

Here's a newsflash Partial: Not all of us need to make money to feel confident about ourselves and what kind of men we are. I understand that given your position in relation to the family fortune and all it's trappings and benefits, that you may have a difficult time understanding that, but that, strangely enough, does not make it any less true.

Skin skin skin, I am confident rich poor middle. It does not matter. I am confident because I know the definition of hard work. Maybe my ideas are too radical for everyone because gasp, the average person is a lazy bum. You certainly seem to fit into this group.

The other problem here is your fucking incessantly idiotic talk about my "dreams and aspirations." What do you think you know about my dreams and aspirations, Dr. Phil?

Nothing, because you have made it crystal clear to me that you intend to let your wife carry the load and you freeload while "babysitting" your children, aka playing video games, posting on the boards, etc.

Do you really think you know anything - anything at all - about me? You'll have to forgive me if my dreams and aspirations relate to my family and my interests instead of satisfying you, your moronic views, or bettering the world by "getting a PhD," whatever the fuck that's supposed to mean. Two facts remain: a) You don't have one clue what I do with my life and my day, and b) You're a bigger idiot than I thought if you're basing you're insightful views of my life off what I post here.

But skin, you said you spend all day and all night slaving to your children yet you have been posting as much as anyone lately. Funny how that works isn't it.

Guess what? Your "dreams" aren't mine - or anyone else's here, yet you feel the need to continuously foist them on us, tell us how great they are, and judge everyone else by them.

Just like you do to everyone else?!? Hello pot, meet kettle. A prime example of you telling everyone how big your cock was when you were telling me not two or three weeks ago how much money I'd be making after graduation. Funny, funny stuff. You're such an unbelievable hypocrite. At least I am man enough to admit when I pull bullshit.

It's great you want to be heir to the Partial throne, marry into another old-money family, and have wildly distorted views on life and finance as a result. But the entertainment value of you believing that somehow you're a better person than anyone else here because of it is growing thin.

wrong again. It's laughable how many assumptions you're making.

Do you really think you know anything - anything at all - about me? You'll have to forgive me if my dreams and aspirations relate to my family and my interests

And as far as marrying rich, both of us come from very humble families. We've built our life together, and our "wealth" is entirely self-made. We don't put nearly the same stock in "big money" that you do. We don't base our happiness, "manliness," confidence, or anything else integral to our lives off how much money is in the bank. Strange the juxtaposition there.

Funny how you make another assumption. I don't rely on how much money I have either, but I do know that people who work hard are generally happier in marriage, life, better parents, etc, and they typically have better jobs.

Unfortunately its ignorant to say that happiness and money don't go hand and hand to a fairly significant extent. It can relieve a lot of stress if you have some. Says the video game lover with the big screen tv who doesn't work yet doesn't qualify for a rebate check meaning his family income is over 150k. Funny.

It's not all about money though Skin, its about being successful and making yourself the very best you can be. Is the very best you can be is a mr. mom? I doubt it. So why are you limiting yourself? It's either laziness, or some delusion that spending every waking moment with your kids is more important than working and securing their college and grad school education (so they can go to law school or grad school or do whatever they want to do, and with them getting a high paying job out of school without debt being able to gift the same thing to their kids, and so on and so forth). Personally, I know my kids will be better off by having two working parents, even if one has to work out of the home working on their own projects or earning money in a creative way.

You are so neck deep in your own bullshit that you have no choice but to believe it at this point I guess. Just don't get so worked up that the rest of us smell it for what it is and don't play along to make you feel better about yourself and your ramshackle "manhood." Now feel free to bust out that shovel again.

I'm not spewing any bullshit brah. I've got my shit together.

[Oscar]

I just have to ask this P... How long have you been married? Ever been through a divorce? How many kids do you have? How much you payin for child care? Payin any child support? You seem to have years of knowledge and experience by reading your posts. Thought I'd ask.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I'm more pathetic than sad. Sad infers I still have some pride.

implies. weren't you an english major, jackass? only things with fur can infer.

Check your dictionary dummy.

You win on a technicality. But you are using the word in an obsolete way. From my superior dictionary:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/infer

"Infer has been used to mean “to hint or suggest” since the 16th century by speakers and writers of unquestioned ability and eminence. Despite its long history, many 20th-century usage guides condemn the use, maintaining that the proper word for the intended sense is imply and that to use infer is to lose a valuable distinction between the two words."

You just don't see infer used the way you did, people won't realize that you are actually a brilliant Shakespearan scholar, they'll guess you are a dope who uses fancy words badly. I'm just trying to help.

[MJZiggy]

***Note to Retail, neither this nor my other comment in this thread is a direct defense of Skin--he can take care of himself just fine.

The best he can be is a Mr. Mom? What cog-in-the-machine job can you possibly come up with that tops giving your kids a parent at home. I love my job, but if I were to have another kid (which I won't), and had the opportunity to stay home, I wouldn't hesitate in my decision.

And as I recall, someone posted from his paid internship that he was posting (for the better part of an hour) because his boss didn't come out and tell him what to do. If you're so ethical and hard-working, why weren't you asking co-workers if they had anything for you to do? Reading the company manual? Doing ANYTHING for the company that's actually paying you instead of calling someone else lazy? You attempt repeatedly to devalue staying at home with your kids and preach like you're perfect, but you have a whole lot to learn. Have a few kids and take care of them and then criticize how someone else does it, but until you've walked a mile in their shoes...

[SkinBasket]

I'm not spewing any bullshit brah. I've got my shit together.

Yes. You've obviously got us all convinced. You'll have to forgive me for not reading all the cascading male impotence that proceeded this statement, however.

You're an idiot Partial. Just because you've got dad's money in hand doesn't change that, but I guess you're rich enough that it doesn't matter anyway. Enjoy your robot dog and your train set you can ride through your home, and your hatred of successful women, those who value money less than happiness, and those less advantaged than you. God knows you've earned it. You are the perfect human genome.


*edited to remove gimlet induced material.

[SkinBasket]

You just don't see infer used the way you did, people won't realize that you are actually a brilliant Shakespearan scholar, they'll guess you are a dope who uses fancy words badly. I'm just trying to help.

Thanks, Harlan, I knew you had my back.

[Partial]

I just have to ask this P... How long have you been married? Ever been through a divorce? How many kids do you have? How much you payin for child care? Payin any child support? You seem to have years of knowledge and experience by reading your posts. Thought I'd ask.

None. Personally, I don't believe or support divorce or anything like that. Especially if you have kids. I understand why it happens, but I will never support or sign any papers. I'm a man of my word, and when I make a pact with god until death do us part I will not break it.

[SkinBasket]

I just have to ask this P... How long have you been married? Ever been through a divorce? How many kids do you have? How much you payin for child care? Payin any child support? You seem to have years of knowledge and experience by reading your posts. Thought I'd ask.

None. Personally, I don't believe or support divorce or anything like that. Especially if you have kids. I understand why it happens, but I will never support or sign any papers. I'm a man of my word, and when I make a pact with god until death do us part I will not break it.

In other words, he'll beat his unhappy wife before he lets her escape his fantasy world with the kids.

[BallHawk]

I just have to ask this P... How long have you been married? Ever been through a divorce? How many kids do you have? How much you payin for child care? Payin any child support? You seem to have years of knowledge and experience by reading your posts. Thought I'd ask.

I'm not sure whether this is rhetorical or not, but just in case it's not, Partial's a 20-something college student who is not married, nor has kids. He has a girlfriend, a part-time job, and his dad's bank account. These 3 things make him suited to tell people how they should live their life and raise their family, something he has yet to do.

[Tarlam!]

I just have to ask this P... How long have you been married? Ever been through a divorce? How many kids do you have? How much you payin for child care? Payin any child support? You seem to have years of knowledge and experience by reading your posts. Thought I'd ask.

I'm not sure whether this is rhetorical or not, but just in case it's not, Partial's a 20-something college student who is not married, nor has kids. He has a girlfriend, a part-time job, and his dad's bank account. These 3 things make him suited to tell people how they should live their life and raise their family, something he has yet to do.

Or he is basing his opinions on what he got from his parents upbringing, or what he learned by watching "Brady Bunch" reruns.

[GrnBay007]

I just have to ask this P... How long have you been married? Ever been through a divorce? How many kids do you have? How much you payin for child care? Payin any child support? You seem to have years of knowledge and experience by reading your posts. Thought I'd ask.

None. Personally, I don't believe or support divorce or anything like that. Especially if you have kids. I understand why it happens, but I will never support or sign any papers. I'm a man of my word, and when I make a pact with god until death do us part I will not break it.

Wonderful. Another group of people Partial is better than.

[BallHawk]

None. Personally, I don't believe or support divorce or anything like that. Especially if you have kids. I understand why it happens, but I will never support or sign any papers. I'm a man of my word, and when I make a pact with god until death do us part I will not break it.

Wonderful. Another group of people Partial is better than.

Holier than thou Rat.

[Deputy Nutz]

Partial take a moment and shut the fuck up.

[GoPackGo]

this is good

[Bretsky]

All this Net spatting is futile; I don't get too involved in the spats and just accept them as people having a different set of values.

Whether one makes 100G a year or stays at home to take care of kids is completely irrelevant as to the quality of that person or how successful that person/family is. I've had very good income years.......but those end up being at the sacrifice of spending quality time with my wife, two girls, and son and that ended up bothering me as well. It's hard to find the midpoint and that is the challenge we all have.

People have different values and differ on what is important to them in this life.

Skin is a good guy; I watched the Bear game with him and he's as down to earth and cool as they get. I still feel guilty that I didn't go to the girly bar with him that first night during the PR weekend at Lambeau when he kept asking me when we were going to leave.

I met Partial as well; didn't hang with him a ton but we rapped and he seems to be a good guy as well. Difference is Partial is younger and while he has strong beliefs he's still in the initial process of setting up many things in his life...career....marriage maybe...kids....etc. What he values now could be completely different five to ten years from now.

That's all I got; just figured I'd try to bring some sense and peace in between all the strong opinions.


Cheers,
B