Bush FAILING to Convince the Saudis

[Freak Out]

Natural gas is around 65 cents a gallon here in UT, and we have 20 stations for refueling along the Wasatch front. Honda makes a $23K natual gas civic. Very tempting. Smaller tanks mean only about 200 miles per tank.

Honda sells a nice little home fueler that you use off your existing utility hookup....takes a few hours but just do it at night.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Hydrogen is an alternative fuel source that needs to be explored and further developed.

I'm confused by "hydrogen." Perhaps ignorant is more appropriate word. There are hydrogen-based fuel cells that are electrical batteries. And then there is notion of burning hydrogen.

Bottom line as I understand it is that hydrogen is like fusion, a hope but a distant one.

[texaspackerbacker]

Tex, I was referring to the government of the UAE, namely Abu Dhabi which has dumped billions into R&D and is now in the implementing stages of making us look like ignorant buffoons over here, but if you want to keep drilling for oil and let them take the lead in innovation, don't complain when it pays off for them and we're still sitting here debating about whether we should be drilling in pristine natural environs in order to keep life more convenient for us.

Thank you for clarifying that.

If R & D in any friendly country turns out to be successful, we all benefit. I'm just fine with the UAE doing this research. Some posters in here act like it is as simple as snapping our fingers--what if we had done this or that way back when. It's obviously not that simple--major investment and usually a lot of time, not to mention, no guarantee of success and a return on the investment.

Also, Scott's post about marketable natural gas for cars sounds good.

As I have said, these ideas will become prominent when the time is right--when the science works and when the market is such that the new stuff is feasible in comparison to oil products. High oil prices hasten that time in coming.

Some of you act like it's an either/or situation--either we use American oil or we do research. It just ain't that way. The research has been going on for a long time by a lot of different investors.

Preaching hate for oil companies or obstructing use of cheap fuel available now does nothing except HURT PEOPLE. Yet that is the position these leftists take. What is wrong with the idea of doing what is good for people now, and STILL do the research for the future? The second half of that--the research--is already being done. It is just the use of current sources that is being obstructed by leftists whose only motivation could be hate and making life worse for Americans.