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  • #16
    She obviously wasn't hanging around DC in October 2002...she don't know from the gas station...unless...?
    "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
      Originally posted by SkinBasket
      Mobama's attempts at identifying with poor black america are disturbing at best, potentially race riot inducing at worst if she becomes first lady.
      I don't think she is trying to identify with poor blacks. I think her comment is just an impulsive utterance out of the Jeremiah Wright School of Stupidity.

      I think the OBamas are completely decent people, and whatever OJ-was-framed sorts of FEELINGS they do or don't got kicking around upstairs are not going to effect how Obama governs. I accept that black and white people think about some racial issues diffently because of the past, and some of the black paranoia is still justified.

      I'm only ragging on Michelle for two reasons:
      1) I got a hard-on over the media's ridiculously slanted coverage
      2) I'll pull any dirty trick to smear Obama 'cause I don't want the left wing of the Democratic party to triumph, and OBama is their guy.
      She definitely has a more hard-edged attitude about race than Barack does, much of which supposedly comes, in part from attending a target school with white kids from a more upper-class background.

      Obama is the choice of the left wing of the Democratic party more because they don't like the Clintons than anything else. They would have preferred Feingold or Edwards. If Obama becomes President, I suspect he will get a lot of criticism from the left who will find him more centrist than they like.
      I can't run no more
      With that lawless crowd
      While the killers in high places
      Say their prayers out loud
      But they've summoned, they've summoned up
      A thundercloud
      They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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      • #18
        So now Obama is a centrist in the Democratic party?
        "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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        • #19
          Compared to people like Edwards and Kucinich, sure. That still puts him left of center, just as McCain is right of center. Each one will be trying to convince the real centrists (mainly independents) that he is their guy.
          I can't run no more
          With that lawless crowd
          While the killers in high places
          Say their prayers out loud
          But they've summoned, they've summoned up
          A thundercloud
          They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Joemailman
            Compared to people like Edwards and Kucinich, sure.
            We really don't know where Obama stands on the political spectrum.

            In the Sentate, he was NOT a guy who crossed party lines, like Clinton & McCain. But then again, he wasn't there long enough to establish much identity. He was running for president very shortly after he arrived.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Joemailman
              Obama is the choice of the left wing of the Democratic party more because they don't like the Clintons than anything else.
              True enough. The Clintons (if we can really lump them together) are free traders. And the left hated that Bill Clinton used force in Bosnia, and that Hillary Clinton voted to authorize the war in Iraq.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by bobblehead
                I think we should simply take it on face value, Hillary was saying anything can happen so she ain't dropping out
                (I'm going to use your statement as an excuse to make a speech, I'm not actually ragging on you, and I expect you have little interest in the Clinton gaff)

                You are repeating a version of events that the Obama Media Brigade spread. She surely was not saying "anything can happen", especially not in the sense that Obama might get assasinated. She just referenced tha Kennedy Assasination DATE as evidence that campaigns in the past have dragged on into June. If you see the whole context of her comment with an open mind, its quite clear.

                Clinton made her comment during a private meeting with newspaper editors, they were interviewing her to decide whether to endorse her. None of the people in the room questioned what she said, they thought she just made a timeline reference. If Clinton was trying to promelgate the "anything can happen" theory, she would have had to expect the editors in the room to repeat her assasination arguments in editorials. Ridiculous.

                What happened is that a low-quality video of the interview appeared on the internet, and MAtt Drudge posted it with a "the bitch is dangling assasination for political purposes" spin. The Obama media and campaign picked it up, and by that evening you had black politicians calling Clinton "beyond the pale" for playing with assasination fears, and an army of pundits calling Clinton beneath contempt.

                It was SEVERELY dirty politics by the OBama supporters.

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