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You guys fucked the joke up..it's an 'M' on each cheek so when you bend over it says MOM..and when your lover has you legs up it says WOW.
Obviously you know all about this shit, you sick fuck.
Dear Lord. It has to be the offseason... :P
I hear this touted as a "lifestyle" and I also hear this touted as a "fad"... Since I don't participate, I guess I'm not qualified to weigh in. My former business partner is convinced that tattooing will become so mainstream that Wal-mart will be doing it in 5 years. Others I know, react much like 27's professor.
If it's a fad, it's going to be a lot more difficult, and a lot more painful to get rid of than that almond fridge, or green toilet, that's for sure!
OPF, there is supposed to be some new kind of ink that responds better to removal, not sure how widespread that is, but I guess it might be worth looking into.
when I had my retail stores, I wouldn't hire anyone with visible body piercing or tattoos, because I believed it would become an issue sooner or later if they showed up to the interview with it visible. For me, trying to run a business and sell things, it just wasn't part of the business plan. I wouldn't do that any more than I'd hang a political sign in the window, or have people signing petitions... I wanted to appeal to as many people as I could, believing that it translated to more sales from a more diverse audience.
27 - I don't agree with your professor at all, he's obviously bigoted, but as a store owner, I wouldn't have wanted to offend him either. His money is just as green as anyone elses, and it's tough out there trying to make a living, you need every sale you can get.
If this isn't a fad, and really is a lifestyle change, then a lot of America has a long way to go to integrating it into society.
I hear this touted as a "lifestyle" and I also hear this touted as a "fad"... Since I don't participate, I guess I'm not qualified to weigh in. My former business partner is convinced that tattooing will become so mainstream that Wal-mart will be doing it in 5 years. Others I know, react much like 27's professor.
If it's a fad, it's going to be a lot more difficult, and a lot more painful to get rid of than that almond fridge, or green toilet, that's for sure!
OPF, there is supposed to be some new kind of ink that responds better to removal, not sure how widespread that is, but I guess it might be worth looking into.
when I had my retail stores, I wouldn't hire anyone with visible body piercing or tattoos, because I believed it would become an issue sooner or later if they showed up to the interview with it visible. For me, trying to run a business and sell things, it just wasn't part of the business plan. I wouldn't do that any more than I'd hang a political sign in the window, or have people signing petitions... I wanted to appeal to as many people as I could, believing that it translated to more sales from a more diverse audience.
27 - I don't agree with your professor at all, he's obviously bigoted, but as a store owner, I wouldn't have wanted to offend him either. His money is just as green as anyone elses, and it's tough out there trying to make a living, you need every sale you can get.
If this isn't a fad, and really is a lifestyle change, then a lot of America has a long way to go to integrating it into society.
My money may be as green as that bigoted guy I knew from college, but my money is also a lot younger than his. He's got 15-20 years left to pay those stores as compared to 40-60 from me, not to mention my offspring. It's also risky to try and pigeon hole someone that has tattoo work into any kind of category or classification. Far too many people have them these days from all walks of life sporting all kinds of educations and incomes. That's a lot of poeple to allienate.
Tattoos? Have to say that they're NOT a fad. I heard the same thing shortly after getting my first, that it was a fad, and that was almost twenty years ago. that's a long ass time for a fad to still be around.
Sorry to say, but if businesses are just now noticing tattoos on younger people and wondering if this is a new lifestyle change then they may already be way behind in regards to keeping up with what matters most and what is the norm or deemed acceptable by those between the ages of 18-38. Plenty of people from my generation accepted tattoos as normal years ago and many of us are now heading into our 40s, some into their 50s.
OPF, sounds like you're doing something right as a parent if she even sought your advice on the matter at 20 years old. If she's willing to give some value to your advice, so much the better.
You make it sound like she's a good, rational kid. The worst that can happen is that she ends up a good, rational kid with a tattoo. Could be worse.
My money may be as green as that bigoted guy I knew from college, but my money is also a lot younger than his. He's got 15-20 years left to pay those stores as compared to 40-60 from me, not to mention my offspring. It's also risky to try and pigeon hole someone that has tattoo work into any kind of category or classification. Far too many people have them these days from all walks of life sporting all kinds of educations and incomes. That's a lot of poeple to allienate.
Tattoos? Have to say that they're NOT a fad. I heard the same thing shortly after getting my first, that it was a fad, and that was almost twenty years ago. that's a long ass time for a fad to still be around.
Sorry to say, but if businesses are just now noticing tattoos on younger people and wondering if this is a new lifestyle change then they may already be way behind in regards to keeping up with what matters most and what is the norm or deemed acceptable by those between the ages of 18-38. Plenty of people from my generation accepted tattoos as normal years ago and many of us are now heading into our 40s, some into their 50s.
Yes, I agree with most everything you say, what I was trying to say is that as a business owner, I didn't want to "offend" anyone, even including guys like your professor or yourself, if I didn't have to.
I guess, to say it another way, is that some people (whether bigoted or not) would be offended by external displays of tattoos and body piercing, but few people (or much fewer) would be offended by "NOT" seeing such things while shopping in a retail establishment. So, one way, the odds seem clearer, and less "risk" of downfall.
You're totally right about being younger and around longer. Thats what I was talking about by saying if it's a lifestyle change, and I don't know whether it is or isn't, but if it is, then, lots of people have a long way to go towards making that change.
As to businesses "noticing", I am not sure that is even important, unless they intend to carry products (such as body jewelry for example) that are desired by people into that particular "lifestyle". I'm unsure that a business should get caught up into promoting any lifestyle, unless, that is what their business is directly all about.
Not sure from your tone if I offended you or not, but if I did, I apologize. I just wanted to state a perspective from the "other side of the fence", and hoped to convey that without the "appearance" of judging one way or the other. I just wanted to convey the reasons why I didn't hire and that it had little to do with 'judgement' and everything to do about 'perception'. Perception is a very large part of why we shop where we shop, and there are very few ways to control "perception".
Not sure from your tone if I offended you or not, but if I did, I apologize. I just wanted to state a perspective from the "other side of the fence", and hoped to convey that without the "appearance" of judging one way or the other. I just wanted to convey the reasons why I didn't hire and that it had little to do with 'judgement' and everything to do about 'perception'. Perception is a very large part of why we shop where we shop, and there are very few ways to control "perception".
No, you didn't offend. I got all of it the first time you said it and I agree with you. You are in a tough spot, you have a bottom line and cannot afford to allienate anyone you serve. I said it myself, more or less, I have quite a few tattoos but am still not willing to display them more freely because of other people's hang-ups.
If you are picking up on anything I am saying by my tone, it's because this entire string is reminding me, because of some of the comments made, of things I have heard people say over the years in reagrds to the personal decisions people make for themselves as adults--like getting a tatoo. Some of the hang ups of those that are not ok with things others do to themselves, for themselves.
If I had a dollar for the number of times I have heard somebody say..'why would you want to do somethig like that to yourself' after you've already placed the thing on your body..well, I wouldn't be rich but I'd have a few bucks in my pocket. The funny thing is they think they are making polite conversation with a phrase like that. Reality is it's a very negative comment. 'What made you want to get a tattoo?' is the appropriate thing to say..It doesn't scream 'what the hell where you thinking, I would never do something like that to myself.'
I guess frustration I might have comes from the reality that seeing a tattoo on somebody is more unnerving for some people than seeing a cigarette in someone's mouth, seeing a person over doing it with alcohol, or seeing a person overeating. Truth is, the tattoo is the only one of the bunch that won't kill you eventually. Weird how some things are acceptable or less shocking to deal with in our society than others.
Tattoos are becomeing so common now amongst the younger generations that it almost seems like NOT getting one is more unique than getting one.
Tattoo aficionados and artists pimp the originality idea, especially to young women---"get a tattoo that will let you express your originality and uniqueness" ... (just like everybody else).
Meanwhile, guys get them because tattoos are a great way to look fake tough. For maximum effect, add a goatee as well.
So now we have all this impressionable youth that is graffitti-ed up like railroad cars. It's not only the boomer generation and older that thinks they're lame.
Tattoos are becomeing so common now amongst the younger generations that it almost seems like NOT getting one is more unique than getting one.
I blame those tattoo shows on cable. Some of the work is great on there. But for every well thought out piece they show, they also show 2-10 people who think the lotus or bird or butterfly or loony toons tattoo they saw on the show is significant to them and who they are as a person. You end up with tens of thousands of people covered in clip-art.
I love the tattoo shop I use. They will, and have while I've been in, tattoo someone's cock as quick as they lay a tramp stamp on someone, but they'll always express their obvious disdain for ideas that are not well thought out and try to get the person to reconsider instead of just taking their money and putting something on them that they'll hate in 3 months.
"You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial
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