IN OBAMA'S OWN WORDS ON ISSUE # 1

[Tyrone Bigguns]

I'll do a little research after work to back it up, but to the best of my knowledge solar is still very expensive compared to dirty fuels and is only used due to huge tax credits (read subsidy). If I'm wrong on that and it is cost efficient there is no reason we shouldn't be making it a national innitiative to quickly turn the power grid and the country into a solar power nirvana.

I think you are referring/thinking of solar..and solar collectors. I'm talking solar thermal...heating and cooling..which then moves the turbines.

[MJZiggy]

Hell, the desert southwest is capable of so much passive heating and cooling, if they would just design things to work within the environment, they wouldn't have to worry about hardly at all.

[bobblehead]

I'll do a little research after work to back it up, but to the best of my knowledge solar is still very expensive compared to dirty fuels and is only used due to huge tax credits (read subsidy). If I'm wrong on that and it is cost efficient there is no reason we shouldn't be making it a national innitiative to quickly turn the power grid and the country into a solar power nirvana.

I think you are referring/thinking of solar..and solar collectors. I'm talking solar thermal...heating and cooling..which then moves the turbines.

I follow, I actually did a levelized cost analysis for this once, but I forget the details. It is all capital cost with minimal/no ongoing cost if I remember correctly. Its hard to compare that kind of thing to fossil fuels as you have to be able to accurately figure the lifetime of the infrastructure. IF I remember right I was calculating indefinately and with that unreasonable parameter it wasn't a bad investment...which if you can reasonably expect a 35 year life it is probably still worth it...not dollar for dollar, but on the big picture.

Again, nano technologies in solar collectors are in the pipeline that will blow away photovoltaic though, and I believe that is the near future so it makes this capital expenditure tough to swallow. Work calls, more later.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Hell, the desert southwest is capable of so much passive heating and cooling, if they would just design things to work within the environment, they wouldn't have to worry about hardly at all.

Let me know about the cooling. Not seeing it right now..triple digits.

[bobblehead]

This one's viable, they just need the funding. http://bluehgroup.com

I didn't read it in depth, but I would say we need some deregulation of the power industry, but its tricky as you don't want another situation that california went through around 2000.

If this company is viable they should have no problem generating capital. People would die to invest in something like that if they could break into the energy market, but getting licensed and putting up the infrastructure would have to work.

Personally I have analyzed a TON of these new energy companies and I haven't found one really good investment yet. If I do, I'll put 100K of my own money into the company immediately. I admit, I have gotten fat and lazy and I'm not motivated to find the home runs like I was 5 years ago, now I'm comfy looking to rake 15% net on my money and slowly get their.

[sooner6600]

BHO is nothing more than John Kerry with a burr cut.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

BHO is nothing more than John Kerry with a burr cut.

And, that is a bad thing?

have you actually looked around lately. Things ain't going so great with the current leadership.

P.S. McCain knows pretty much nothing about economics.

[texaspackerbacker]

BHO is nothing more than John Kerry with a burr cut.

Belief-wise, that's certainly true.

The dangerous thing about Obama is that he combines the evil of Kerry's beliefs and positions with the political slickness of Clinton--and without the scandals, as least as far as we know up to now.

[Harlan Huckleby]

least as far as we know

i like your style.

[The Leaper]

have you actually looked around lately. Things ain't going so great with the current leadership.

Kerry is still part of that leadership the last time I checked. Washington as a whole is a pile of shit. Regardless of who wins in November, nothing meaningful will change. Nothing will be done about Social Security. Nothing will be done about solving our energy situation. Nothing will be done about any of the critical issues facing this nation...just like nothing has been done in the last 25 years regarding these same issues.

[Deputy Nutz]

have you actually looked around lately. Things ain't going so great with the current leadership.

Kerry is still part of that leadership the last time I checked. Washington as a whole is a pile of shit. Regardless of who wins in November, nothing meaningful will change. Nothing will be done about Social Security. Nothing will be done about solving our energy situation. Nothing will be done about any of the critical issues facing this nation...just like nothing has been done in the last 25 years regarding these same issues.

Bingo

[Joemailman]

have you actually looked around lately. Things ain't going so great with the current leadership.

Kerry is still part of that leadership the last time I checked. Washington as a whole is a pile of shit. Regardless of who wins in November, nothing meaningful will change. Nothing will be done about Social Security. Nothing will be done about solving our energy situation. Nothing will be done about any of the critical issues facing this nation...just like nothing has been done in the last 25 years regarding these same issues.

Let's hear it for good old American optimism! I think we've reached a tipping point on energy policy thanks to the price of gas/oil. The election could well swing on which candidate can convince the public that they have the right plan to deal with the energy situation. The next President will have to address the situation in a big way. If either party is seen as being obstructionist in this area, they will pay a price.

[bobblehead]

have you actually looked around lately. Things ain't going so great with the current leadership.

Kerry is still part of that leadership the last time I checked. Washington as a whole is a pile of shit. Regardless of who wins in November, nothing meaningful will change. Nothing will be done about Social Security. Nothing will be done about solving our energy situation. Nothing will be done about any of the critical issues facing this nation...just like nothing has been done in the last 25 years regarding these same issues.

Bingo

I third that. These pricks aren't interested in solving things, this is why I take the time to get on a site like this and preach about our waste of a gov't. They have gotten so far away from their role it sickens me and I am of the opinion that serious political chemo is in order. Problem is, in order for that to happen people have to care and take action.

My small footprint on all this...I pretty much vote against incumbents constantly except for the very few who are doing what they are supposed to.

[bobblehead]

Sound like: I would say you sound like a liberal. Welcome aboard. We've been waiting for you. Don't worry, i'll only introduce to white folks..we'll keep the scary minorities and eco freaks away from you.

Ya know what ty, I was at work and didn't read this real close, but this is the second time you have painted me a rascist. Your nothing more than a worthless hate spreading prick. I no longer have any use for you or anything you say....you are the only bigot between us.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Sound like: I would say you sound like a liberal. Welcome aboard. We've been waiting for you. Don't worry, i'll only introduce to white folks..we'll keep the scary minorities and eco freaks away from you.

Ya know what ty, I was at work and didn't read this real close, but this is the second time you have painted me a rascist. Your nothing more than a worthless hate spreading prick. I no longer have any use for you or anything you say....you are the only bigot between us.

Dude, you need to relax...no one is painting you as a racist...it is merely humor.