The wealth gap

[MJZiggy]

They get to keep 25%. Where the F does the rest go?

Iraq.

[Partial]

They get to keep 25%. Where the F does the rest go?

Iraq.

Ha.

1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens
each year by state governments. Verify at: http://tinyurl..com/zob77
2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs
such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://www.cis..org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html
3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://www.cis..org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

On all the things the libs want to expand.

[MJZiggy]

Now compare that to how much we've spent in Iraq.

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Now compare that to how much we've spent in Iraq.

At least that is accomplishing something and not teaching people its perfectly ok to break laws, be lazy, do drugs, etc.

Those programs give all the wrong messages. If you can't afford food, starve. Survival of the fittest, especially in the next 20 years with limited water, oil, wood, metals, etc.

Its not even worth debating with you. You're so anti-iraq despite all the good it has done that it isn't worth my time. Be glad you live in America and can put your children to bed safely at night.

[MJZiggy]

All that war has done is fuck up Iraq and make them not trust us. Don't you read the papers?

[oregonpackfan]

The United States is currently spending $12 billion on month in Iraq.

More correctly put, the United States is borrowing $12 billion a month from countries like Saudi Arabia, China, and the United Arab Emerites.

Partial, your generation, including my children, will be paying for this Iraq War for years to come.

Iraq was never a threat to American safety despite what the Bush Administration claims.

[Partial]

The United States is currently spending $12 billion on month in Iraq.

More correctly put, the United States is borrowing $12 billion a month from countries like Saudi Arabia, China, and the United Arab Emerites.

Partial, your generation, including my children, will be paying for this Iraq War for years to come.

Iraq was never a threat to American safety despite what the Bush Administration claims.

Well, blame the libs who drained social security for that. With the interest on that we could be paying for Iraq.

We'll be paying for that forever too because some DFL decided money grows on trees.

[Partial]

All that war has done is fuck up Iraq and make them not trust us. Don't you read the papers?

No, why would I read that incredibly liberal slanted BS propaganda.

[oregonpackfan]

Well, blame the libs who drained social security for that. With the interest on that we could be paying for Iraq.

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Get your facts straight, Partial. Both the Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush administrations have borrowed funds from social security. BTW, they are Republicans.

[falco]

shit i wish my grandma left us a couple mil - even after all those taxes that's a cubic assload of money.

[Partial]

shit i wish my grandma left us a couple mil - even after all those taxes that's a cubic assload of money.

ok, but when you get 25% is ridiculous. The government took 50% of it when they earned it, another 50% after death, and another 50% when its passed on. That is 12.5% of the original earnings. That is bullshit.

Would you accept 12.50 an hour when you're supposed to earn 100? I know I wouldn't.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Her family would probably see a million of it. The government would get the other half. Hope you don't have a lot of uncles, aunts, and cousins.


If you had 4 aunts/uncles and 10 cousins, you'd each see about $75,000 of that. Good chunk of change, but you'd probably be pissed if you knew the government was getting $1M and each of you should get $150,000.

[falco]

i actually agree to some extent partial, some of those rates are a little high. but there are also a lot of ways around it - setting up trusts, etc

[bobblehead]

double post, sorry

[bobblehead]

Get your facts straight, Partial. Both the Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush administrations have borrowed funds from social security. BTW, they are Republicans.

This is true, but LBJ is the one who broke it open and started the raiding. Honest truth is, both parties suck, gov't spending is never efficient, just the nature of the beast.

Iraq had to be done, we weren't left with a big choice. You can say they weren't a threat, but it depends on how you mean that....were they gonna attack us? No, but saddam was paying suicide bombers in Israel, and he was cozying up to Iran as they were both working towards becoming nuclear. There was evidence that Iraq wanted to hellp someone smuggle a dirty bomb into the US.

We spent a shitload of money there, no doubt. Again, the gov't doesn't do anything efficiently. We botched the midgame and we just aren't good at nation building, but it is coming along. We can debate a lot of things we could have done better, you can say we shouldn't have gone, but its just not realistic. Letting religious zealots run roughshod around the middle east isn't cool, and they have the resources to do damage. They were left unchecked through 8 years of clinton (sort of, billy did drop some bombs on them when the monica heat got intense). North Korea was easy to handle after clinton helped them become nuclear, we just stifled them economically, that doesn't work with oil producing countries though.

Last point, 75% of the budget is locked into spending on programs created by the left. 59 TRILLION in unfunded liabilities are on the books due to the left. To try and compare republicans to the left is kinda silly. The current republicans are spend happy, no doubt, but the problems we face are due to long standing liberal policies.