Obama announces his plan for Iraq

[bobblehead]

The Iraqi Prime Minister al-Mailki has stated he is in favor of the 16 month withdrawal Obama proposed.

I'll be damned, that just happened a couple hours ago.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,566841,00.html

I would like Maliki to say EXACTLY what this means.

Right now, he is having it both ways. He gets to tell the Arab world, "U.S. Occupiers out of our country!" and they cheer him for standing up. But then in the details of what he actually agrees to, the U.S. continues to heavily support him.

I want some honesty from Maliki and OBama. They are pandering. And the U.S. is taking it up the hind quarters.

I would call his bluff and use this opportunity to remove our troops instantly. Fucking ungrateful wretch. I never wanted to nation build anyway, I wanted to crush saddam, destroy his warmaking infrastructure and get out....oh yea, I wanted to destroy iran's warmaking infrastructure during the turmoil...then get out.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I would call his bluff and use this opportunity to remove our troops instantly. Fucking ungrateful wretch.

I know what you mean, part of me wants to just get every American the fuck out of there. I think about the sacrifices those military families are making with those multiple tours.

Maliki personally wants American troops there - the more the merrier. To him, they are mostly a huge asset. He is responding to Iraqi public opinion, and maybe we need to celebrate the emergence of democracy that this indicates.

I would be satisfied with some hard questions of Obama. He says he wants to withdraw in 16 months. What this really means is reduce forces from about 120K to 60K. He says he wants to leave a "residual force" to fight Al-Qaida. You can't do that with a couple Swat teams. And "logistical support" amounts to about 60% of the job the current force is doing now.

It's very dramatic when Obama says he is going to "end the war", or Maliki says he going to "end the occupation." Make them tell the truth so that the United States is not falsely portrayed as the evil trouble maker for their political benefit.

[bobblehead]

I would call his bluff and use this opportunity to remove our troops instantly. Fucking ungrateful wretch.

I know what you mean, part of me wants to just get every American the fuck out of there. I think about the sacrifices those military families are making with those multiple tours.

Maliki personally wants American troops there - the more the merrier. To him, they are mostly a huge asset. He is responding to Iraqi public opinion, and maybe we need to celebrate the emergence of democracy that this indicates.

I would be satisfied with some hard questions of Obama. He says he wants to withdraw in 16 months. What this really means is reduce forces from about 120K to 60K. He says he wants to leave a "residual force" to fight Al-Qaida. You can't do that with a couple Swat teams. And "logistical support" amounts to about 60% of the job the current force is doing now.

It's very dramatic when Obama says he is going to "end the war", or Maliki says he going to "end the occupation." Make them tell the truth so that the United States is not falsely portrayed as the evil trouble maker for their political benefit.

This was about nukes in the middle east in general. We fucked up because when iran was meddling and we had them red handed we should have taken that opportunity to drop several large explosives on every known nuclear facility they have. We could have hit some military while we were at it for show, but instead we passed on that opportunity. Didn't GW learn anything from his dad? Bomb facilities, get bullshit concessions, leave for 10 years, then go back later when they rebuild it. Its effective, cheap, and doesn't ostracize the world.