McCain flips Rand and other conservatives the bird

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Well, McCain has shown his socialist, liberal tendencies that he believes gov't has a role in the free market. More to the point, he goes directly with Ty and against Rand.

McCain to offer a "$300 million prize for the development of a battery package that has the size, capacity, cost and power to leapfrog the commercially available plug-in hybrids or electric cars."

You read that right: McCain wants the U.S. government to offer $300 million for the development of a car battery that is 30% cheaper than current technology. As the Senator pointed out in a speech at California State University, Fresno: “that’s one dollar, one dollar, for every man, woman and child in the U.S. . .A small price to pay for helping to break the back of our oil dependency. . .’’

I am OUTRAGED. How can this be? He actually wants the gov't involved? Fucking commie.

[LL2]

This is old news. I think it was about a month ago McCain said he wanted to offer the $300 million to a company that can offer a better battery powered car.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Old news...you mean like the Obama emblem?

[Joemailman]

Not to worry. The White House has just announced that only Haliburton has the expertise to develop such a battery, and have been given a 30 billion no-bid contract to do so.

[Kiwon]

Fannie Mae needs a bailout? No wonder when you have Democratic slime running the place.

Clinton-era officials Franklin Raines and 9-11 enabler Jamie Gorelick did a three-way with Team Obama member Jim Johnson to defraud the public through enormous benefits for themselves while leaving taxpayers on the hook for billions in bad loans through their expert oversight.

That's your "Change We Can Believe In."

Barack can't wait to collect the taxes from the 58 U.S. states after his 10 years of the Presidency. That is if he can handle diplomacy with the Japanese who dropped "the bomb that fell on Pearl Harbor."

The "Community Organizer" that did such a great job cleaning up Chicago will soon bring his expertise to running the country that leads the Free World. That's the "US of KKKA" according to Barack's pastor of 20 years, the wonderful man of God, Jeremiah Wright (But Barack was NEVER in church on the Sundays when he said controversial things).

But nothing matters except that the lovely Michelle is finally proud of her country.



Friends of Barack

June 11, 2008;

Barack Obama may have come up with a creative way to solve the housing recession: Let everyone buy property at a discount the way he did from Tony Rezko, and give everyone in America a discount mortgage the way Angelo Mozilo of Countrywide did for Fannie Mae's Jim Johnson. Team Obama's real estate and mortgage transactions are certainly a change from business as usual. They suggest old-fashioned back-scratching below even current Beltway standards.

A former CEO of mortgage financing giant Fannie Mae, Mr. Johnson is now vetting Vice Presidential candidates for Mr. Obama. But he is also a textbook case for poor disclosure as regulators sifted through the wreckage of Fannie's $10 billion accounting scandal. Despite an exhaustive federal inquiry, Mr. Johnson managed to avoid disclosing one very special perk: below-market interest-rate mortgages from Countrywide Financial, arranged by Countrywide CEO Angelo Mozilo.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121314375651462773.html?mod=opinion_main_review_and_outlooks

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Not to worry. The White House has just announced that only Haliburton has the expertise to develop such a battery, and have been given a 30 billion no-bid contract to do so.

QFT

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Fannie Mae needs a bailout? No wonder when you have Democratic slime running the place.

Clinton-era officials Franklin Raines and 9-11 enabler Jamie Gorelick did a three-way with Team Obama member Jim Johnson to defraud the public through enormous benefits for themselves while leaving taxpayers on the hook for billions in bad loans through their expert oversight.

That's your "Change We Can Believe In."

Barack can't wait to collect the taxes from the 58 U.S. states after his 10 years of the Presidency. That is if he can handle diplomacy with the Japanese who dropped "the bomb that fell on Pearl Harbor."

The "Community Organizer" that did such a great job cleaning up Chicago will soon bring his expertise to running the country that leads the Free World. That's the "US of KKKA" according to Barack's pastor of 20 years, the wonderful man of God, Jeremiah Wright (But Barack was NEVER in church on the Sundays when he said controversial things).

But nothing matters except that the lovely Michelle is finally proud of her country.



Friends of Barack

June 11, 2008;

Barack Obama may have come up with a creative way to solve the housing recession: Let everyone buy property at a discount the way he did from Tony Rezko, and give everyone in America a discount mortgage the way Angelo Mozilo of Countrywide did for Fannie Mae's Jim Johnson. Team Obama's real estate and mortgage transactions are certainly a change from business as usual. They suggest old-fashioned back-scratching below even current Beltway standards.

A former CEO of mortgage financing giant Fannie Mae, Mr. Johnson is now vetting Vice Presidential candidates for Mr. Obama. But he is also a textbook case for poor disclosure as regulators sifted through the wreckage of Fannie's $10 billion accounting scandal. Despite an exhaustive federal inquiry, Mr. Johnson managed to avoid disclosing one very special perk: below-market interest-rate mortgages from Countrywide Financial, arranged by Countrywide CEO Angelo Mozilo.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1213...w_and_outlooks

Excuse me, but this thread ain't about Barack..you have plenty of those.

this thread is about a liberal named McCain.

P.S. Why weren't you crying about their comp back when the repubs were running things..as that chart if from 96. Or, did they just get the job that year.

[retailguy]

Yeah! Ty sets the rules. You should know better Kiwon!

Liberals ALWAYS set the rules. Shame, shame on you.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Yeah! Ty sets the rules. You should know better Kiwon!

Liberals ALWAYS set the rules. Shame, shame on you.

Liberals set rules. LOL I thought liberals didn't believe in rules.

It is simple, we try to stay on the topic of the thread...now, if the thread is several pages long, then of course it will meander off...but, this thread ain't even a page.

But, most importantly....why not address the topic?

[bobblehead]

Get real, this is the most conservative thing mccain has done. Its not liberal. Liberal would be to hire a company on an hourly basis to create the battery in an open timeframe. This is exactly what I was advocating way back when I first came on PR and the libs had nothing to say.

This isn't mccain, this is newt gingrich. Newt has been saying this since his "debate" with John Kerry.

Liberal would have been offering 300 million in gas tax credits for the poor...as in giveaway. Conservative is offering payment for a creation...as in profit for your efforts....successful efforts. Liberal would have been to offer all the people willing to work on said battery 50k each to work on it and HOPING one would come up with the solution. Conservative is paying for the ACTUAL solution.

Gov't has a role where the free market breaks down, and creating batteries that still can't compete with gas isn't something the market will create, but it is step one in getting off fossil fuels before we are forced to by other factors.

BTW, welcome to the party, you must be ignoring my posts too, I posted this twice in the last month.

[Kiwon]

Yeah! Ty sets the rules. You should know better Kiwon!

Liberals ALWAYS set the rules. Shame, shame on you.

Yeah, Hex-boy likes structure.

Hey, meaningless cosmic accident, where does the order come from that Hex is built off of?

How come this guy can understand it and this guy can't?

[sheepshead]

Fannie Mae needs a bailout? No wonder when you have Democratic slime running the place.

Clinton-era officials Franklin Raines and 9-11 enabler Jamie Gorelick did a three-way with Team Obama member Jim Johnson to defraud the public through enormous benefits for themselves while leaving taxpayers on the hook for billions in bad loans through their expert oversight.

That's your "Change We Can Believe In."

Barack can't wait to collect the taxes from the 58 U.S. states after his 10 years of the Presidency. That is if he can handle diplomacy with the Japanese who dropped "the bomb that fell on Pearl Harbor."

The "Community Organizer" that did such a great job cleaning up Chicago will soon bring his expertise to running the country that leads the Free World. That's the "US of KKKA" according to Barack's pastor of 20 years, the wonderful man of God, Jeremiah Wright (But Barack was NEVER in church on the Sundays when he said controversial things).

But nothing matters except that the lovely Michelle is finally proud of her country.



Friends of Barack

June 11, 2008;

Barack Obama may have come up with a creative way to solve the housing recession: Let everyone buy property at a discount the way he did from Tony Rezko, and give everyone in America a discount mortgage the way Angelo Mozilo of Countrywide did for Fannie Mae's Jim Johnson. Team Obama's real estate and mortgage transactions are certainly a change from business as usual. They suggest old-fashioned back-scratching below even current Beltway standards.

A former CEO of mortgage financing giant Fannie Mae, Mr. Johnson is now vetting Vice Presidential candidates for Mr. Obama. But he is also a textbook case for poor disclosure as regulators sifted through the wreckage of Fannie's $10 billion accounting scandal. Despite an exhaustive federal inquiry, Mr. Johnson managed to avoid disclosing one very special perk: below-market interest-rate mortgages from Countrywide Financial, arranged by Countrywide CEO Angelo Mozilo.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1213...w_and_outlooks

Jamie Gorelick is one of the most despicable humans on the planet

[sheepshead]

Not to worry. The White House has just announced that only Haliburton has the expertise to develop such a battery, and have been given a 30 billion no-bid contract to do so.

HAAAAAAAAAAA

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Get real, this is the most conservative thing mccain has done. Its not liberal. Liberal would be to hire a company on an hourly basis to create the battery in an open timeframe. This is exactly what I was advocating way back when I first came on PR and the libs had nothing to say.

This isn't mccain, this is newt gingrich. Newt has been saying this since his "debate" with John Kerry.

Liberal would have been offering 300 million in gas tax credits for the poor...as in giveaway. Conservative is offering payment for a creation...as in profit for your efforts....successful efforts. Liberal would have been to offer all the people willing to work on said battery 50k each to work on it and HOPING one would come up with the solution. Conservative is paying for the ACTUAL solution.

Gov't has a role where the free market breaks down, and creating batteries that still can't compete with gas isn't something the market will create, but it is step one in getting off fossil fuels before we are forced to by other factors.

BTW, welcome to the party, you must be ignoring my posts too, I posted this twice in the last month.

YOu must not be reading Rand's diatribe against this...when i suggested that the gov't get involved.

This was followed by a lengthy admonition abut gov't involvemet and the free market.

Sorry, but you are wrong about libs...if the gov't is involved..that is liberal. Anything the gov't does is liberal and alters the free market...i have been told so repeatedly.

[mraynrand]

Re: McCain flips Rand and other conservatives the bird

Well, McCain has shown his socialist, liberal tendencies that he believes gov't has a role in the free market. More to the point, he goes directly with Ty and against Rand.

McCain to offer a "$300 million prize for the development of a battery package that has the size, capacity, cost and power to leapfrog the commercially available plug-in hybrids or electric cars."

You read that right: McCain wants the U.S. government to offer $300 million for the development of a car battery that is 30% cheaper than current technology. As the Senator pointed out in a speech at California State University, Fresno: “that’s one dollar, one dollar, for every man, woman and child in the U.S. . .A small price to pay for helping to break the back of our oil dependency. . .’’

I am OUTRAGED. How can this be? He actually wants the gov't involved? Fucking commie.

Nice try. 300 mil for a COMPETITION for a battery? Sounds like a good idea to me. Far better than a no-bid contract as part of an earmark on an unrelated bid. even better than a competitive bid for a new plane, for example. Any business or individual who wants the reward has to produce the battery before they get it. This type of thing, handled in the normal way, likely as a military project, might be less efficient. As an incentive-based project, especially with a low cost for the government, it's forward thinking. But, if you're going to invest in an energy policy that stresses electric, then the government must support upgrading the electrical grid, support increased nuke reactor licensing and/or more coal burning plants. McCain supports more nuke plants. With 100 nuke plants and a push towards electric cars, we could break the back of foreign oil, with respect to the U.S. in the next 30 years. Given the likely increase in demand for oil in China and India, McCain's is the smart path. Obama is opposed to nukes, and is opposed to developing a nation storage site at Yucca Mt. McCain, once again, is in the lead, and completely correct on yet another issue, just like war policy in general and the Surge in Iraq specifically.