Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
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You're equating leaving a relationship that's not working (the right thing to do) with fucking around behind your dying wife's back (or maybe in front of her as you speculate) and publicly (and pubicly) humiliating her. It's my fault for bringing up Armstrong, though. Flog me."You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial
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well, i'm not equating...you were.Originally posted by SkinBasketYou're equating leaving a relationship that's not working (the right thing to do) with fucking around behind your dying wife's back (or maybe in front of her as you speculate) and publicly (and pubicly) humiliating her. It's my fault for bringing up Armstrong, though. Flog me.Originally posted by Tyrone BiggunsI do hear your sentiment, and am inclined to agree. but, should someone stay in a broken relationship because of a problem..ie, armstrong?
My point is that he didn't just initiate this..he has been involved in this affair for a while. Not saying this is good, but i accept that people have affairs...and i accept that spouses choose to deal with them differently. Some..DIVORCE. Some..look away. Some...big gifts (hello, kobe).
Publicly: I really don't think you can blame him for the press...especially rags like the enquirer, etc. The MSM tends to look the other way for all pols on these type of things...which they should. I don't, and i realize others do, see the relevance to their work performance.
P.S. the only source for this is the enquirer. I"m not saying it is inaccurate, but don't you think that mudslinging at edwards..or any conserv pol is a bit premature? My god, when did we start taking them seriously?
I find it hard to believe that is is true...after all...Ann coulter has repeatedly told me he is gay.
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Could you guys elaborate, please?
When I call somebody "trash", "scum", etc., I always explain exactly why--how the God damned leftist disrespects America, advocates policies harmful to America, pushes issues and candidates who want to inflict things contrary to what good normal Americans want, etc.
The same kind of detail from your side about Ann Coulter would be nice. Which of your favorite sick rotten positions, viewpoints, and institutions has she disparaged?What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?
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How about telling all of the 9/11 widows to "hurry up and appear in Playboy"?Originally posted by texaspackerbackerCould you guys elaborate, please?
When I call somebody "trash", "scum", etc., I always explain exactly why--how the God damned leftist disrespects America, advocates policies harmful to America, pushes issues and candidates who want to inflict things contrary to what good normal Americans want, etc.
The same kind of detail from your side about Ann Coulter would be nice. Which of your favorite sick rotten positions, viewpoints, and institutions has she disparaged?
She has tons of other things that make her trash, but that stands out as the top one."I've got one word for you- Dallas, Texas, Super Bowl"- Jermichael Finley
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OK, I'll give you one flippant remark taken out of context. As I recall, there was something weird about the behavior of those "9/11 widows" that may have made them valid targets of sarcasm, though.Originally posted by BallHawkHow about telling all of the 9/11 widows to "hurry up and appear in Playboy"?Originally posted by texaspackerbackerCould you guys elaborate, please?
When I call somebody "trash", "scum", etc., I always explain exactly why--how the God damned leftist disrespects America, advocates policies harmful to America, pushes issues and candidates who want to inflict things contrary to what good normal Americans want, etc.
The same kind of detail from your side about Ann Coulter would be nice. Which of your favorite sick rotten positions, viewpoints, and institutions has she disparaged?
She has tons of other things that make her trash, but that stands out as the top one.
The point is, any negative thing you can bring up about her pales to insignificance compared to virtually every member of the leftist mainstream media who disrespect America and Americans routinely, and incessantly advocate crap that is harmful to this country and all of us in it.
Could you possibly come up with something a little more substantial from Coulter to match that?What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?
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Coulter:
1. Calling John Edwards a "faggot."
2. “joking” remark that a liberal Supreme Court justice should be poisoned..."putting rat poison in [U.S. Supreme Court] Justice [John Paul] Stevens's crème brûlée."
3. Regarding clinton, "whether to impeach or assassinate"...joking about killing our prez...if any dem did that you'd be up in arms.
4. Suggesting Times staffers should be "executed."
5. Coulter remarked that when "most Americans" heard that an Israeli airstrike had hit a United Nations observer post in south Lebanon on July 25, killing four U.N. observers, they hoped to hear similar news about "the installation on 42nd Street" -- presumably a reference to the U.N. headquarters in New York City.
6. Insulting Ms. Harriman, our former ambassador,
7. Insulting Nam troops..."No wonder you guys lost." ..insulting a disabled vet.
8. Jews should be "perfected" into Christians
Her own quote: "I'm a Christian first and a mean-spirited, bigoted conservative second, and don't you ever forget it."[
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Which blog did you get your information from?Originally posted by Tyrone BiggunsCoulter:
1. Calling John Edwards a "faggot."
2. “joking” remark that a liberal Supreme Court justice should be poisoned..."putting rat poison in [U.S. Supreme Court] Justice [John Paul] Stevens's crème brûlée."
3. Regarding clinton, "whether to impeach or assassinate"...joking about killing our prez...if any dem did that you'd be up in arms.
4. Suggesting Times staffers should be "executed."
5. Coulter remarked that when "most Americans" heard that an Israeli airstrike had hit a United Nations observer post in south Lebanon on July 25, killing four U.N. observers, they hoped to hear similar news about "the installation on 42nd Street" -- presumably a reference to the U.N. headquarters in New York City.
6. Insulting Ms. Harriman, our former ambassador,
7. Insulting Nam troops..."No wonder you guys lost." ..insulting a disabled vet.
8. Jews should be "perfected" into Christians
Her own quote: "I'm a Christian first and a mean-spirited, bigoted conservative second, and don't you ever forget it."[
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Is this another ad hominem attack? LOLOriginally posted by KiwonWhich blog did you get your information from?Originally posted by Tyrone BiggunsCoulter:
1. Calling John Edwards a "faggot."
2. “joking” remark that a liberal Supreme Court justice should be poisoned..."putting rat poison in [U.S. Supreme Court] Justice [John Paul] Stevens's crème brûlée."
3. Regarding clinton, "whether to impeach or assassinate"...joking about killing our prez...if any dem did that you'd be up in arms.
4. Suggesting Times staffers should be "executed."
5. Coulter remarked that when "most Americans" heard that an Israeli airstrike had hit a United Nations observer post in south Lebanon on July 25, killing four U.N. observers, they hoped to hear similar news about "the installation on 42nd Street" -- presumably a reference to the U.N. headquarters in New York City.
6. Insulting Ms. Harriman, our former ambassador,
7. Insulting Nam troops..."No wonder you guys lost." ..insulting a disabled vet.
8. Jews should be "perfected" into Christians
Her own quote: "I'm a Christian first and a mean-spirited, bigoted conservative second, and don't you ever forget it."[
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The argument Coulter made regarding the 9/1 widows was that they (and others in similar situations) were essentially treated as untouchable. An attack on their argument or point of view was essentially treated as a cruel attack on their person, seemingly more heartless because of their loss. Cindy Sheehan would be another example. Coulter routinely makes solid arguments, and she has a sharp wit. The problem is that she actually IS unnecessarily cruel. And in being so, she becomes a sort of self-fulfilling prophesy in reverse - HER arguments are ignored because HER vitriol becomes the story."Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
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I agree..........Originally posted by mraynrandThe problem is that she actually IS unnecessarily cruel. And in being so, she becomes a sort of self-fulfilling prophesy in reverse - HER arguments are ignored because HER vitriol becomes the story.
I read her articles every week, and she often times crystalizes an issue better than any other Conservative writer has. But, she has to throw in her over the top "Ann Coulter thing." I think she has her disciples that she has to feed. It keeps her very wealthy.
It's too bad though, she is very bright.After lunch the players lounged about the hotel patio watching the surf fling white plumes high against the darkening sky. Clouds were piling up in the west… Vince Lombardi frowned.
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1. truth is a defenseOriginally posted by Tyrone BiggunsCoulter:
1. Calling John Edwards a "faggot."
2. “joking” remark that a liberal Supreme Court justice should be poisoned..."putting rat poison in [U.S. Supreme Court] Justice [John Paul] Stevens's crème brûlée."
3. Regarding clinton, "whether to impeach or assassinate"...joking about killing our prez...if any dem did that you'd be up in arms.
4. Suggesting Times staffers should be "executed."
5. Coulter remarked that when "most Americans" heard that an Israeli airstrike had hit a United Nations observer post in south Lebanon on July 25, killing four U.N. observers, they hoped to hear similar news about "the installation on 42nd Street" -- presumably a reference to the U.N. headquarters in New York City.
6. Insulting Ms. Harriman, our former ambassador,
7. Insulting Nam troops..."No wonder you guys lost." ..insulting a disabled vet.
8. Jews should be "perfected" into Christians
Her own quote: "I'm a Christian first and a mean-spirited, bigoted conservative second, and don't you ever forget it."[
2. woulda been beneficial for the country
3. nothing a dozen lefties haven't said and worse about Bush
4. a realistic punishment for treason
5. most, meaning over 50%? probably an exaggeration by 5-10%
6. don't know the lady, but I bet the shoe fit
7. sounds bad--like something your side would say. it would be nice to see the context
8. that's good Christian teaching--something leftist assholes reject anyway
Leftists on all levels are notorious for having no sense of humor at all when their own sick kind are the butt of the jokes. I doubt Ann Coulter objects the crap spewed about her. Hell, I don't object. I just wanted to see some specifics--which you dutifully provided, to confirm that the objections lefties have about her fall WAY SHORT of the blatant America-hate that the leftist mainstream media is routinely guilty of.
.What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?
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Besides her sparkling intellect and ability to articulate extremely effectively her spunk is what distinguishes her from the conservative crowd. From my vantage point it's what makes Ann, Ann.Originally posted by HowardRoarkI agree..........Originally posted by mraynrandThe problem is that she actually IS unnecessarily cruel. And in being so, she becomes a sort of self-fulfilling prophesy in reverse - HER arguments are ignored because HER vitriol becomes the story.
I read her articles every week, and she often times crystalizes an issue better than any other Conservative writer has. But, she has to throw in her over the top "Ann Coulter thing." I think she has her disciples that she has to feed. It keeps her very wealthy.
It's too bad though, she is very bright.
I can't agree with anyone 100% of the time, Ann included, but I wouldn't ask her to change her approach either. She's a wordsmith and like an artist she has her own distinctive style.
I agree though that she can be her own worst enemy. The "faggot" reference she was playing off of in the Edwards comment was just too obscure for the average Joe to catch. Pop culturally-aware folks got it, but most people were left bewildered by what she meant.
That's what happens when you are a public media figure playing verbal chess when most people are playing checkers.
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Bump for Tex.Originally posted by HowardRoarkFirst, it may be nuanced, but you are nothing if not a master of nuance……I never alluded to whether or not hedge funds caused anything; merely that the duplicitous John Edwards profited off what happened.Originally posted by Tyrone BiggunsI didn't realize the hedge funds caused the mortgage meltdown. Please explain.
But, now that you ask.
Back in the day, your bank would do the underwriting on your mortgage, and then keep it on their balance sheet. They had a vested interest in your ability to pay the money back.
In the past few years, mortgages have been securitized and sold off in bundles known as CDOs. These CDOs have different traunches, depending on the risk of repayment. Because of fees, etc. there was a very large appetite for putting together these securitized loans. And offloading them.
Hedge funds were able to put together extremely highly leveraged funds of these securitized loans. Sometime 16:1. And, to add fuel to the fire, they were borrowing money in Japan at practically 0% interest and taking that cash over here to put the funds together. So, they not only had U.S. credit risk, but also foreign currency risk as well. It was an extremely highly torqued spring.
Certain firms, which I will not name, had a HUGE chunk of this stuff on their balance sheets. It was easy money, but they were not taking care of the risk management.
These securities aren't heavily traded or priced for that matter, and a flood of supply into the open market could drive prices down, forcing other holders of these securities to mark down the value of their holdings. When these loans are marked down, they start to really erode balance sheets. As balance sheets continue to erode, rating agencies such as Moodys and Standard and Poors lower the rating on these companies. As that happens, institutional investors, such as endowments and pensions, by their bylaws are forbidden from holding them anymore. The pensions, etc have to liquidate…..and so the flood of this stuff continues on the market.
As any Capitalist knows, when there is too much of something offered for sale real quick, there can come a time when there is no “bid” at all. That is where we are today. No “bid” for these securitized loans, so theoretically……they are worthless. Companies have to put this stuff on their balance sheets as worthless. Killing the companies.
Now, for the “short” side. Some smart guys/gals out there in the past couple of years have put huge bets on that this would all happen. Either through shorting, puts or buying credit swaps. When something is shorted, it is sold high, with the intention of buying back later cheaper. So, the shorting actually added a whole lot of fuel to this fire. Read Einhorn’s speech:
What we need now is a “bid” on this debt.After lunch the players lounged about the hotel patio watching the surf fling white plumes high against the darkening sky. Clouds were piling up in the west… Vince Lombardi frowned.
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