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  • #16
    I'm not arguing Harlan, but you wait and see, he'll be a player.
    He will get the Hispanic vote, he saved the hostages somewhere, and he had some other type of International save the fucking day.

    I'm too lazy to look it up right now though.

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    • #17
      Bill Richardson is a fake Mexican like Madtown.

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      • #18
        Colin Powell I would vote for him in a second and he would win in a fricken LANDSLIDE!!!!
        Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.

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        • #19
          If this were a poll of who to kick in the nuts, I would choose Russ Feingold. This fucking guy hasn't spent one day in office representing anyone but himself. At least other career politicians will throw their constituants a fricken bone every now and again and do something for the state they represent.
          "You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial

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          • #20
            I see we are building a consensus.
            "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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            • #21
              Originally posted by SkinBasket
              If this were a poll of who to kick in the nuts, I would choose Russ Feingold. This fucking guy hasn't spent one day in office representing anyone but himself. At least other career politicians will throw their constituants a fricken bone every now and again and do something for the state they represent.
              Actually, it is not unusual at all for a state to have one Senator who focuses on local issues, while the other focuses more on national issues. While some may resent Feingold's independence, I relish it. I wish there were more like him. Too many of our politicians are either constrained by political correctness, or they constantly look for ways to rip into the other side. Feingold does neither. I'm not ready to say he's my choice for 2008, (although I voted for him in this poll) but I hope he runs. A race between Feingold and McCain would be the best choice we have had in a presidential race in my lifetime.
              I can't run no more
              With that lawless crowd
              While the killers in high places
              Say their prayers out loud
              But they've summoned, they've summoned up
              A thundercloud
              They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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              • #22
                Mitt Romney is currently the Governer of Mass., and was the President of the Salt Lake Olympic Committee during the games (post bribary scandel). We got to watch his work up close here in town, and he's an impressive guy. He's considered a dark horse Republican candidate in 08.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Scott Campbell
                  Mitt Romney is currently the Governer of Mass., and was the President of the Salt Lake Olympic Committee during the games (post bribary scandel). We got to watch his work up close here in town, and he's an impressive guy. He's considered a dark horse Republican candidate in 08.
                  I doubt the name "Mitt" is appealing to the American public.

                  I vote Hillary, but I would to take it back if i could. I would like to vote for John Kerry instead. I could change my mind later, though. Right now i am pissed that Hillary still support the War in Iraq.

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                  • #24
                    I voted Condi, although I'm disappointed that good ol' Dick Cheney has no plans to run ...

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by route25
                      Originally posted by SkinBasket
                      If this were a poll of who to kick in the nuts, I would choose Russ Feingold. This fucking guy hasn't spent one day in office representing anyone but himself. At least other career politicians will throw their constituants a fricken bone every now and again and do something for the state they represent.
                      Actually, it is not unusual at all for a state to have one Senator who focuses on local issues, while the other focuses more on national issues. While some may resent Feingold's independence, I relish it. I wish there were more like him. Too many of our politicians are either constrained by political correctness, or they constantly look for ways to rip into the other side. Feingold does neither. I'm not ready to say he's my choice for 2008, (although I voted for him in this poll) but I hope he runs. A race between Feingold and McCain would be the best choice we have had in a presidential race in my lifetime.
                      Feingold was all for finance reform - which makes logical sense. Why let powerful lobbyists and corportations pour money into a politician for their own self interests? This certainly doesn't help the avg Joe. He's also one of the 'poorest' senators and recently voted against a huge pay raise - seems like he's got his interests for the people - not himself. He also has went against the norm of his party numerous times.

                      Even though I'm not a 'Democrat' - I'm a registered Libertarian - he's a definite possibility. Look at his background - UW grad, Rhodes scholar, and graduated from Harvard Law - pretty impressive.

                      He's got a few things against him though - he's Jewish and potentially twice divorced. Reagan was the only Pres who was divored and remarried before office and some people aren't ready for a Jewish man in the office (imagine the potential terrorist perceptions here).
                      The measure of who we are is what we do with what we have.
                      Vince Lombardi

                      "Not really interested in being a spoiler or an underdog. We're the Green Bay Packers." McCarthy.

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                      • #26
                        You poor saps. Feingold has no shot at winning a Presidential election. Why is he even on the list? I'm amazed how homeristic people are when it comes to politicians--except people in Tennessee (where Al Gore couldn't even win his home state).
                        "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                          You poor saps. Feingold has no shot at winning a Presidential election. Why is he even on the list? I'm amazed how homeristic people are when it comes to politicians--except people in Tennessee (where Al Gore couldn't even win his home state).
                          Agreed Harv...

                          Feingold can't win... Not a big enough name. I am pushing Edwards. I think he is good for woriking Americans. With him I would hope the unions would gain a little strength.
                          Stacy is just one of the elfs.

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                          • #28
                            Feingold is going to go big someday. He'll be a president. He's well-spoken and a growing figure. If Obama wasn't black he'd be our next president.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                              You poor saps. Feingold has no shot at winning a Presidential election. Why is he even on the list? I'm amazed how homeristic people are when it comes to politicians--except people in Tennessee (where Al Gore couldn't even win his home state).

                              My support of Feingold has nothing to do with homerism. He's just one of the few politicians in this country willing to call things as he sees them. If the Iraq War is still a problem come 2008, he will have an advantage against many of his peers, Unlike Kerry, Edwards, and Clinton, he won't have to try to explain why he gave Bush the authorization to take us into this stupid war. When they say they were deceived by the President, he'll be able to point out that he wasn't deceived. At a Democratic gathering this past week, he received standing ovations while Hillary Clinton received boos.

                              As for the arguments made by some that he isn't a big enough name, I say welcome to the 21st century. The internet has changed everything. If you have a message that sets you apart, you can get the word out. And as Howard Dean proved, even a relative unknown can raise a lot of money on the internet.
                              I can't run no more
                              With that lawless crowd
                              While the killers in high places
                              Say their prayers out loud
                              But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                              A thundercloud
                              They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                              • #30
                                Written by ilya S
                                Thursday, 15 June 2006
                                Those of us following Senator Feingold closely over the past two years have seen the growing momentum and support for a possible 2008 campaign. Others, though, have yet to take real notice. He's won every single internet straw poll for over 6 months now on the leading progressive blogs but the media don't think that makes a serious candidate. His numbers have increased across the board in state after state slowly inching up from being an * in the polls to 5, 6, or even 10% in the polls. When Tom Vilsack gets 4th place in Iowa with only 10% of the vote, people still consider him a contender. Meanwhile Russ received 29% and was within the margin of error for being in first (HRC had 31%) in his home state of Wisconsin and no one seemed to really notice.

                                We know there's tangible Feingold support. It's why there have been Meetups from California to Iowa and Wisconsin to Massachussets over 2 years before the elections. It's why dozens of bloggers are talking abour Russ and thousands have signed up on this website as supporters. But the media wasn't getting it until now.

                                Democratic Sen. Russ Feingold, a potential 2008 presidential candidate, received a raucous, enthusiastic greeting Wednesday from a liberal group as he criticized President Bush for the Iraq war and a secretive domestic wiretapping program.
                                The same crowd had booed Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., the presumed 2008 front-runner, a day earlier for opposing a set date for withdrawing U.S. troops from Iraq.

                                And what message did the crowd have for Russ?

                                "Run, Russ, run," some chanted as the Wisconsin senator stepped to the podium. Others wore buttons and stickers with the same sentiment.

                                Hmm. That sounds strangely familar:

                                The 2008 draft movements include people such as Ilya Sheyman, a college student in Chicago who drove to Madison, Wis., on a freezing February day to distribute "Run, Russ, Run" buttons at a gathering in support of Sen. Russell Feingold (D-Wis.).

                                They're starting to get it. Slowly the narrative of an unbeatable Hillary is dissapearing. And as it vanishes, Russ Feingold stands head and shoulders above the pack of Democrats.
                                I can't run no more
                                With that lawless crowd
                                While the killers in high places
                                Say their prayers out loud
                                But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                                A thundercloud
                                They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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