War

[BallHawk]

Surprisingly lack of conservs on this thread...rubber meets the road...where are they now?

The topic-at-hand doesn't directly involve America so they just said "fuck it" and moved onto a different thread.

[SkinBasket]

Surprisingly lack of conservs on this thread...rubber meets the road...where are they now?

Waiting for the international community that liberals put so much faith in to take action. Or to even say anything. This is exactly the kind of situation NATO or the UN are supposed to address isn't it?

The only thing the US can do is ask them politely to stop or send in military support. I'm guessing they've already asked the Russians to stop. I'm also guessing fighting the Russians in an armed conflict isn't a realistic solution to anyone.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Surprisingly lack of conservs on this thread...rubber meets the road...where are they now?

Waiting for the international community that liberals put so much faith in to take action. Or to even say anything. This is exactly the kind of situation NATO or the UN are supposed to address isn't it?

The only thing the US can do is ask them politely to stop or send in military support. I'm guessing they've already asked the Russians to stop. I'm also guessing fighting the Russians in an armed conflict isn't a realistic solution to anyone.

Waiting...so, i guess we changed that regarding iraq and afghanistan. Nice how that works.

Skin..to bad our president's own words contradict you.

"When you stand for your liberty, we will stand with you. Democratic reformers facing repression, prison or exile can know: America sees you for who you are -- the future leaders of your free country,"

when do we start the sanctions or embargo against russia?

Guess when their isn't any oil we won't go.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Surprisingly lack of conservs on this thread...rubber meets the road...where are they now?

The topic-at-hand doesn't directly involve America so they just said "fuck it" and moved onto a different thread.

Guess they missed this bushism.

The survival of liberty in our land increasingly depends on the success of liberty in other lands.

[Harlan Huckleby]

It sure looks like a small piece of land to be having a war over.

What I read is that Russia's ultimate goal is to overthrow the Georgian gov.

[falco]

It sure looks like a small piece of land to be having a war over.

What I read is that Russia's ultimate goal is to overthrow the Georgian gov.

how big was kuwait?

[Joemailman]

We need to backup Georgia, though. They're big time Western, big time Democratic. Can't let Russia crush them.

I doubt this will escelate to war, but this would be a "conflict" worth getting involved with.

Hope the fighting doesn't spread. I have a sister living in Florida and another in South Carolina.

[texaspackerbacker]

There definitely are American interests here--an oil pipeline as well as a loyal and democratic government.

The seceding area is mostly ethnic Russian--thus, the reason Russia is sending in force to prevent Georgia from keeping the area in line. This is a reprise of the Cold War--they attack ours, we defend ours.

You can get an insight to the McCain way versus the Obama way from the statements of the two. McCain was clear in his support for Georgia, saying the UN and U.S. should pressure Russia to withdraw. Obama was even-handed, saying all sides should negotiate, no strong support for our influence or ally.

Bush should not leap to sending in American troops or anything like that. However, he should not take it off the table either. Russia knows that if faced with American military might, it will have to back down--unless America abdicates its role as the force for good in the world. I think this will be resolved without American force and with Georgia retaining the Ossetia region.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I think this will be resolved without American force and with Georgia retaining the Ossetia region.

the U.N. and U.S. have zero pressure points to influence Russian behavior. I can't imagine why you think Russia will not triumph. They very much want to keep Georgia out of NATO, and here's a pretext to do it.

[texaspackerbacker]

I think this will be resolved without American force and with Georgia retaining the Ossetia region.

the U.N. and U.S. have zero pressure points to influence Russian behavior. I can't imagine why you think Russia will not triumph. They very much want to keep Georgia out of NATO, and here's a pretext to do it.

The threat of obliterating their military with conventional weaponry, not to even mention nukes isn't pressure? You might want to ask Putin and the new guy about that.

[Harlan Huckleby]

we are going to have a new land war in caucuses? Not enough to do in Afghanistan & Iraq?

Forget it, we are no threat to Russia.

[texaspackerbacker]

Dream on, Harlan. That 150 tank column sent into Georgia, how long do you think it would last if we decided to take it out? Maybe 15 minutes? Maybe 30 at the outside? Technology--American technology--has left you and the Russians behind--along with the rest of the world.

We may not have perfected mop-ups/nation-building, but we can do basically anything we put our mind to, militarily.

[Harlan Huckleby]

well, watch and learn.

[SkinBasket]

Surprisingly lack of conservs on this thread...rubber meets the road...where are they now?

Waiting for the international community that liberals put so much faith in to take action. Or to even say anything. This is exactly the kind of situation NATO or the UN are supposed to address isn't it?

The only thing the US can do is ask them politely to stop or send in military support. I'm guessing they've already asked the Russians to stop. I'm also guessing fighting the Russians in an armed conflict isn't a realistic solution to anyone.

Waiting...so, i guess we changed that regarding iraq and afghanistan. Nice how that works.

Skin..to bad our president's own words contradict you.

"When you stand for your liberty, we will stand with you. Democratic reformers facing repression, prison or exile can know: America sees you for who you are -- the future leaders of your free country,"

when do we start the sanctions or embargo against russia?

Guess when their isn't any oil we won't go.

I think it's fairly obvious how different this situation is from Iraq or Afghanistan.

How is expecting the international community to do their job through established measures not supporting democracy?

I'm curious what your solution to this is.

[BallHawk]

Judging from reports it seems to me like Russia and Ossetia are playing victim by inflating the civilian dead. Russia claims 1,500 and Georgia claims 100. Hmmm.

It's only going to get worse from here. I fear this will get very ugly.