Colleges Urge Lowering Drinking Age

[Harlan Huckleby]

I've never met anyone who thinks the 18-year-old drinking law makes sense.

Maybe that is because I live in a college town, and everybody sees how stupid it is in practice. It just makes 90% of young people into "criminals", and breeds disrespect for the law.

[GoPackGo]

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[mraynrand]

But, i find it hypocritical to allow 18 year olds to fight for their country, but when they return can't have a beer? C'mon.

I think you're on to something here - the drinking age should be 21, except if you're in the military it's 18.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

But, i find it hypocritical to allow 18 year olds to fight for their country, but when they return can't have a beer? C'mon.

I think you're on to something here - the drinking age should be 21, except if you're in the military it's 18.

I get your point, but it is still ridiculous.

Old enough to be a cop..old enough to go to prison...old enough to get married...old enough to have a drink (if you are married..should be mandatory that you drink).

[sheepshead]

^^^^^^
I'm glad this thread is back on track. I guess your opinion is probably shaped from your upbringing. My dad could drink legally at 18, on my 18th birthday, my dad drank a beer with me for the first time even though it is illegal.

I was brought up under the "drink occasionally at home" strategy. Kicking it Europe-style, almost. The #1 mistake America makes is making alcohol the forbidden fruit.

That makes sense for sex. Alcohol, not so much. There are some arguments on that side. Most and from the right sources say keep it out of kids mouths as much as possible. Zero tolerance until age 21.

Would you rather have your kid bangin all day at age 35 or doing shots of tequila?

[Tyrone Bigguns]

^^^^^^
I'm glad this thread is back on track. I guess your opinion is probably shaped from your upbringing. My dad could drink legally at 18, on my 18th birthday, my dad drank a beer with me for the first time even though it is illegal.

I was brought up under the "drink occasionally at home" strategy. Kicking it Europe-style, almost. The #1 mistake America makes is making alcohol the forbidden fruit.

That makes sense for sex. Alcohol, not so much. There are some arguments on that side. Most and from the right sources say keep it out of kids mouths as much as possible. Zero tolerance until age 21.

Would you rather have your kid bangin all day at age 35 or doing shots of tequila?

Interesting...we are kids till 21. Hmm, so i guess those are kids fighting in iraq? Kids that are in prison. Kids working in law enforcement.

Interesting how a conservative now wants to butt into people's lives. Now, big gov't is ok.

[mraynrand]

(if you are married..should be mandatory that you drink).

QFT

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But, i find it hypocritical to allow 18 year olds to fight for their country, but when they return can't have a beer? C'mon.

I think you're on to something here - the drinking age should be 21, except if you're in the military it's 18.

I get your point, but it is still ridiculous.

Old enough to be a cop..old enough to go to prison...old enough to get married...old enough to have a drink (if you are married..should be mandatory that you drink).

Just because you're old enough doesn't mean you're responsible enough.

I am all for drinking at 18, with the rule being a .05 for drunk driving and a minimum sentence of 10 years in the slammer, no pay, but 50 hours a week of community service.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

But, i find it hypocritical to allow 18 year olds to fight for their country, but when they return can't have a beer? C'mon.

I think you're on to something here - the drinking age should be 21, except if you're in the military it's 18.

I get your point, but it is still ridiculous.

Old enough to be a cop..old enough to go to prison...old enough to get married...old enough to have a drink (if you are married..should be mandatory that you drink).

Just because you're old enough doesn't mean you're responsible enough.

I am all for drinking at 18, with the rule being a .05 for drunk driving and a minimum sentence of 10 years in the slammer, no pay, but 50 hours a week of community service.

You can't have different laws for different age groups...that is called discrimnation. The only laws like that are juvie vs. adult.

Should we then use your logic...how do we determine an 18 year old is responsible enough to be a cop or in the service.

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But, i find it hypocritical to allow 18 year olds to fight for their country, but when they return can't have a beer? C'mon.

I think you're on to something here - the drinking age should be 21, except if you're in the military it's 18.

I get your point, but it is still ridiculous.

Old enough to be a cop..old enough to go to prison...old enough to get married...old enough to have a drink (if you are married..should be mandatory that you drink).

Just because you're old enough doesn't mean you're responsible enough.

I am all for drinking at 18, with the rule being a .05 for drunk driving and a minimum sentence of 10 years in the slammer, no pay, but 50 hours a week of community service.

You can't have different laws for different age groups...that is called discrimnation. The only laws like that are juvie vs. adult.

Should we then use your logic...how do we determine an 18 year old is responsible enough to be a cop or in the service.

Where did I say different laws? People in general are really irresponsible. My next door neighbor was killed by a drunk driver. Dumbass was ticketed for it 4 times, on the 5th time killing a close friend.

Ridiculous that so much careless and lack of intelligence/respect exists and is tolerated.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Most and from the right sources say keep it out of kids mouths as much as possible. Zero tolerance until age 21.

ya. how is that zero tolerance prohibition working out?

when did you have your first beer, sheepshead?

[mraynrand]

Most and from the right sources say keep it out of kids mouths as much as possible. Zero tolerance until age 21.

ya. how is that zero tolerance prohibition working out?

when did you have your first beer, sheepshead?

Yeah, if you start outlawing liquor for the young folks, they'll just break into the garage next door to steal it - and you'll be forced to call 911 and shoot them in the back.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

But, i find it hypocritical to allow 18 year olds to fight for their country, but when they return can't have a beer? C'mon.

I think you're on to something here - the drinking age should be 21, except if you're in the military it's 18.

I get your point, but it is still ridiculous.

Old enough to be a cop..old enough to go to prison...old enough to get married...old enough to have a drink (if you are married..should be mandatory that you drink).

Just because you're old enough doesn't mean you're responsible enough.

I am all for drinking at 18, with the rule being a .05 for drunk driving and a minimum sentence of 10 years in the slammer, no pay, but 50 hours a week of community service.

You can't have different laws for different age groups...that is called discrimnation. The only laws like that are juvie vs. adult.

Should we then use your logic...how do we determine an 18 year old is responsible enough to be a cop or in the service.

Where did I say different laws? People in general are really irresponsible. My next door neighbor was killed by a drunk driver. Dumbass was ticketed for it 4 times, on the 5th time killing a close friend.

Ridiculous that so much careless and lack of intelligence/respect exists and is tolerated.

I took the part of .05 to be specific to 18 year olds.

But, i'm in no way in favor of lowering the BAC. It is already ridiculous.

As for the dumbass..your story doesn't ring true. That person had to have served at least jail time 5 days to 6 months..and revocation of license for 12-18 months.

3rd offense: 30 days to a year. 2-3 year revocation.

4th offense: 60 days to a year. 2-3 year revocation.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Most and from the right sources say keep it out of kids mouths as much as possible. Zero tolerance until age 21.

ya. how is that zero tolerance prohibition working out?

when did you have your first beer, sheepshead?

Yeah, if you start outlawing liquor for the young folks, they'll just break into the garage next door to steal it - and you'll be forced to call 911 and shoot them in the back.

And, that is why it is best to have them wait till 25...fully grown means a much bigger target.

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But, i find it hypocritical to allow 18 year olds to fight for their country, but when they return can't have a beer? C'mon.

I think you're on to something here - the drinking age should be 21, except if you're in the military it's 18.

I get your point, but it is still ridiculous.

Old enough to be a cop..old enough to go to prison...old enough to get married...old enough to have a drink (if you are married..should be mandatory that you drink).

Just because you're old enough doesn't mean you're responsible enough.

I am all for drinking at 18, with the rule being a .05 for drunk driving and a minimum sentence of 10 years in the slammer, no pay, but 50 hours a week of community service.

You can't have different laws for different age groups...that is called discrimnation. The only laws like that are juvie vs. adult.

Should we then use your logic...how do we determine an 18 year old is responsible enough to be a cop or in the service.

Where did I say different laws? People in general are really irresponsible. My next door neighbor was killed by a drunk driver. Dumbass was ticketed for it 4 times, on the 5th time killing a close friend.

Ridiculous that so much careless and lack of intelligence/respect exists and is tolerated.

I took the part of .05 to be specific to 18 year olds.

But, i'm in no way in favor of lowering the BAC. It is already ridiculous.

As for the dumbass..your story doesn't ring true. That person had to have served at least jail time 5 days to 6 months..and revocation of license for 12-18 months.

3rd offense: 30 days to a year. 2-3 year revocation.

4th offense: 60 days to a year. 2-3 year revocation.

The point is to make it so low that people do NOT touch the wheel PERIOD if they are drinking for paranoia. If you can't afford a cab, you shouldn't be out drinking. If you can't crash at a buddy or family members house for said get together, then don't drink.

I have no idea what sort of jail time he has spent, but I assure you it was his 5th offense.