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    Thanx to our vigilant friend Sheepshead, i was introduced to the honorable Dr. Jack Wheeler. I now the truth about Obama...and McCain.

    By Jack Wheeler
    © 2008


    The number of fellow senators who think John McCain is psychologically unstable is large. Some will admit it publicly, like Thad Cochran who says, "The thought of his being president sends a cold chill down my spine."

    Others relate times when McCain screamed four-letter obscenities right in their faces in the Senate cloak room, like Dick Shelby, Rick Santorum or Jim Inhofe. "The man is unhinged," one senator told me. "He is frighteningly unfit to be commander-in-chief."

    That John McCain is clinically nuts is scary enough. What worries a small group of GOP senators and congressmen even more is a deep and dark skeletal secret in McCain's glorified past to which they are privy, and which the Clintons will use to blackmail him.

    They have been having discussions with a Russian whom we'll call "T" for translator. T's father was the Soviet military intelligence officer who ran the "Hanoi Hilton" prison holding captured Americans during the Vietnam War. One of those prisoners was John McCain.

    The GRU – Glavnoje Razvedyvatel'noje Upravlenije or main intelligence directorate of the Soviet (now Russian) Armed Forces – operated the entire North Vietnamese prison system holding American prisoners of war. GRU officers, all of whom were Russians, oversaw the interrogation of every American POW.

    The interrogations themselves were conducted by Vietnamese who spoke some English. After each interrogation session, which could often include torturing the prisoners at the direction of the GRU officers, the Vietnamese interrogator would write a report of the session – in Vietnamese.

    These reports had to be translated into Russian. T, a bright teenager living in the GRU compound in Hanoi, had become fluent in Vietnamese, and ended up translating many of the reports and interrogators' notes.

    John McCain, flying his A-4 Skyhawk, was shot down over Hanoi on Oct. 26, 1967. Badly injured from the ejection, he was beaten and abused by his captors. In July, 1968, his father, U.S. Navy Adm. J. S. McCain, was made CINCPAC, commander in chief, Pacific Command, commander of all U.S. military forces in the Vietnam theatre. Upon learning this, the Vietnamese offered – according to McCain – to release him.

    McCain claims he refused, because he demanded all American POWs captured before him be released as well. He thus remained a prisoner when he could have gone home, and was subjected to constant brutal beatings and torture for years: that is the source of the "war-hero" saga making McCain a greater war-hero than any other American POW.

    Yet the offer of release would had to have been approved by the GRU overseers of the North Vietnamese – and T does not recall any such offer being made. T admits, however, that this took place before McCain was transferred to Hoa Loa prison, nicknamed the "Hanoi Hilton" by the POWs. T had only direct knowledge of what happened at Hoa Loa, and not the other prisons, where T's father was in charge.

    McCain was kept at the Hanoi Hilton from December 1969 until his release, along with all the remaining POWs, in March 1973. During this time, T translated all the Vietnamese interrogators' notes and reports regarding John McCain.

    According to T, they reveal that McCain had made an "accommodation" with his captors, and in exchange, T's father saw that he was provided with an apartment in Hanoi and the services of two prostitutes. Upon returning to his prison cell, he would say he had been held in solitary confinement. That may be why so many of his fellow prisoners said later they saw so little of him at Hoa Loa.

    The notes and reports written in Vietnamese were sent to Moscow, where T was a now a college student, for T's translation into Russian, then placed into GRU archives. That's where they stayed until 1991. Late that year, as the Soviet Union was collapsing, the CIA and the GRU made a deal for a document swap.

    All of what it involved, T doesn't know. What T's father, by now retired but still with substantial contacts within the GRU, did learn (and thus T learned) was that the swap included all of T's translations.

    In other words, the CIA has in its possession the notes and reports of John McCain's interrogators at the Hanoi Hilton, in both the original Vietnamese and translated Russian, showing collaboration with his Communist captors.

    Allegations of this nature have been made over the years, many by Vietnam veterans. There is an even an organization, Vietnam Veterans Against McCain. But they are based on suspicions and circumstantial claims. There has never been any hard, direct evidence.

    What T says the CIA has is such evidence. Its release would destroy McCain. The threat of its release could force McCain to take a fall, blow the election and lose on purpose. And just who do you suppose would know what the CIA has and work with them to release it?

    Someone who has been a CIA asset since he was recruited by London station chief Cord Meyer while a student at Oxford in 1968?

  • #2
    This is good stuff. Did he steal Robert Ludlum's notes?
    "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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    • #3
      Originally posted by mraynrand
      This is good stuff. Did he steal Robert Ludlum's notes?
      Went highbrow...i think it was le carre.

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      • #4
        Doesn't this guy write for the Liberal Utopian?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by retailguy
          Doesn't this guy write for the Liberal Utopian?
          Nice try..but, he writes for conservatives...big in the reagan admin.

          These our your people. Embrace them.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
            Originally posted by retailguy
            Doesn't this guy write for the Liberal Utopian?
            Nice try..but, he writes for conservatives...big in the reagan admin.

            These our your people. Embrace them.
            Nah. Not Jack Wheeler, the guy who edited this one....

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            • #7
              Originally posted by retailguy
              Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
              Originally posted by retailguy
              Doesn't this guy write for the Liberal Utopian?
              Nice try..but, he writes for conservatives...big in the reagan admin.

              These our your people. Embrace them.
              Nah. Not Jack Wheeler, the guy who edited this one....
              What editing?

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              • #8
                Ty, just like I say about obama, lets stick to the issues. mccain voted against tax cuts, voted against drilling to lower prices, proposed allowing 20 million illegals to stay while others wait on the list doing it the legal way, and I could go on and on...oh yea, campaign finance so now only the really tricky and wealthy can get elected while incumbents get a HUGE advantage.
                The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by bobblehead
                  Ty, just like I say about obama, lets stick to the issues. mccain voted against tax cuts, voted against drilling to lower prices, proposed allowing 20 million illegals to stay while others wait on the list doing it the legal way, and I could go on and on...oh yea, campaign finance so now only the really tricky and wealthy can get elected while incumbents get a HUGE advantage.
                  Do you really think i posted this because i believe it? It came from a conservative site.

                  I just get tired of watching sheep or kiwon post these types of articles....so, instead of attacking the author of Sheeps last one (obama isn't black)..which leads to the conservs ALWAYS noting that it is an ad hominem attack..i choose to post another one of the author's article.

                  If you live by the Wheeler sword, you're gonna die by it.

                  Bobble, i have no problems with the issues. And, as an AZ resident, i'm more than familiar with McCain. I just laugh watching him flip flop on issues while Fox etc. screams about Obama doing it.

                  McCain the maverick is a joke. He reminds me of Bush vs. Reagan. I actually liked Bush, but then watched him sell his soul to be on the ticket.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns

                    Bobble, i have no problems with the issues. And, as an AZ resident, i'm more than familiar with McCain. I just laugh watching him flip flop on issues while Fox etc. screams about Obama doing it.
                    That's why it's boring. The so-called 'flip flopping' is nothing of the sort. It is both candidates trying to conceal what they really are. Obama is desperate to hide his far-left credentials, and McCain is trying to hide his moderate side to appeal to conservatives. Looks like McCain has achieved this - but I think it's because people are really figuring out what Obama really stands for and what he intends to do as Pres more than falling in love with McCain. Obama is strongly in favor of redistribution of wealth (Regardless of what it does to the economy - he has stated this directly: when informed (he didn't know) that increasing the cap. gains tax would reduce tax receipts and hurt the economy, he said it should be raised anyway because it was 'fair.' Obama is for U.S. humility before the international scene (e.g. the U.S is no better than any other country since we ourselves have done evil trying to combat evil and because we once had slavery and killed native Americans). While McCain is trying to hide his true self to appeal to voters, his true self is far less dangerous and will be far less damaging to the U.S. than a President Obama with Congress on his side.
                    "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                    • #11
                      The people spewing and repeating this laughable shit are the same ones whining about references to Obama's Muslim roots.

                      The election is coming, and the people will have the final say.

                      I would just say this, though. If the McCain shit and the Obama shit are equally true, what do you want for president? A passionate hot-tempered grudge-holding pro-American war hero, or a sick America-hating Muslim sympathizing (if not actually believing) political slickster?

                      Real Americans will choose the real American--mostly because of the issues, however--not any of this crap.
                      What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by mraynrand
                        Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns

                        Bobble, i have no problems with the issues. And, as an AZ resident, i'm more than familiar with McCain. I just laugh watching him flip flop on issues while Fox etc. screams about Obama doing it.
                        That's why it's boring. The so-called 'flip flopping' is nothing of the sort. It is both candidates trying to conceal what they really are. Obama is desperate to hide his far-left credentials, and McCain is trying to hide his moderate side to appeal to conservatives. Looks like McCain has achieved this - but I think it's because people are really figuring out what Obama really stands for and what he intends to do as Pres more than falling in love with McCain. Obama is strongly in favor of redistribution of wealth (Regardless of what it does to the economy - he has stated this directly: when informed (he didn't know) that increasing the cap. gains tax would reduce tax receipts and hurt the economy, he said it should be raised anyway because it was 'fair.' Obama is for U.S. humility before the international scene (e.g. the U.S is no better than any other country since we ourselves have done evil trying to combat evil and because we once had slavery and killed native Americans). While McCain is trying to hide his true self to appeal to voters, his true self is far less dangerous and will be far less damaging to the U.S. than a President Obama with Congress on his side.
                        Your diatribe is so surprising.

                        McCain is much worse for the U.S. I and the rest of the country are for family values. The #1 threat to family values is divorce. McCain is divorced. Voting for him is a tacit approval divorce.

                        McCain has a legendary temper..that is the last guy i want with his finger on the button.

                        McCain is old. While not every old person has problems..clearly mccain is fatigued and forgetful. The press has noted that mccain doesn't keep the normal campaign pace.....and, you want him in the whitehouse...doing a job that takes mental and physical stamina? Well, it did till Bush set the record with vacay days.

                        The rest..i could go on and on...but, what is the point? You believe what you wanna believe.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by texaspackerbacker
                          The people spewing and repeating this laughable shit are the same ones whining about references to Obama's Muslim roots.

                          The election is coming, and the people will have the final say.

                          I would just say this, though. If the McCain shit and the Obama shit are equally true, what do you want for president? A passionate hot-tempered grudge-holding pro-American war hero, or a sick America-hating Muslim sympathizing (if not actually believing) political slickster?

                          Real Americans will choose the real American--mostly because of the issues, however--not any of this crap.
                          Clearly you can't read. McCain is a commie..not just a grudge holding war hero.

                          I support the non commie. OBAMA!!!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                            Originally posted by mraynrand
                            Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns

                            Bobble, i have no problems with the issues. And, as an AZ resident, i'm more than familiar with McCain. I just laugh watching him flip flop on issues while Fox etc. screams about Obama doing it.
                            That's why it's boring. The so-called 'flip flopping' is nothing of the sort. It is both candidates trying to conceal what they really are. Obama is desperate to hide his far-left credentials, and McCain is trying to hide his moderate side to appeal to conservatives. Looks like McCain has achieved this - but I think it's because people are really figuring out what Obama really stands for and what he intends to do as Pres more than falling in love with McCain. Obama is strongly in favor of redistribution of wealth (Regardless of what it does to the economy - he has stated this directly: when informed (he didn't know) that increasing the cap. gains tax would reduce tax receipts and hurt the economy, he said it should be raised anyway because it was 'fair.' Obama is for U.S. humility before the international scene (e.g. the U.S is no better than any other country since we ourselves have done evil trying to combat evil and because we once had slavery and killed native Americans). While McCain is trying to hide his true self to appeal to voters, his true self is far less dangerous and will be far less damaging to the U.S. than a President Obama with Congress on his side.
                            Your diatribe is so surprising.

                            McCain is much worse for the U.S. I and the rest of the country are for family values. The #1 threat to family values is divorce. McCain is divorced. Voting for him is a tacit approval divorce.

                            McCain has a legendary temper..that is the last guy i want with his finger on the button.

                            McCain is old. While not every old person has problems..clearly mccain is fatigued and forgetful. The press has noted that mccain doesn't keep the normal campaign pace.....and, you want him in the whitehouse...doing a job that takes mental and physical stamina? Well, it did till Bush set the record with vacay days.

                            The rest..i could go on and on...but, what is the point? You believe what you wanna believe.
                            Divorced, temper, old. Got it. That's why I should pick the guy who wants the U.S. to have humility when facing evil and wants to further advance socialism admittedly to the detriment of the country. OK.
                            "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by mraynrand
                              Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                              Originally posted by mraynrand
                              Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns

                              Bobble, i have no problems with the issues. And, as an AZ resident, i'm more than familiar with McCain. I just laugh watching him flip flop on issues while Fox etc. screams about Obama doing it.
                              That's why it's boring. The so-called 'flip flopping' is nothing of the sort. It is both candidates trying to conceal what they really are. Obama is desperate to hide his far-left credentials, and McCain is trying to hide his moderate side to appeal to conservatives. Looks like McCain has achieved this - but I think it's because people are really figuring out what Obama really stands for and what he intends to do as Pres more than falling in love with McCain. Obama is strongly in favor of redistribution of wealth (Regardless of what it does to the economy - he has stated this directly: when informed (he didn't know) that increasing the cap. gains tax would reduce tax receipts and hurt the economy, he said it should be raised anyway because it was 'fair.' Obama is for U.S. humility before the international scene (e.g. the U.S is no better than any other country since we ourselves have done evil trying to combat evil and because we once had slavery and killed native Americans). While McCain is trying to hide his true self to appeal to voters, his true self is far less dangerous and will be far less damaging to the U.S. than a President Obama with Congress on his side.
                              Your diatribe is so surprising.

                              McCain is much worse for the U.S. I and the rest of the country are for family values. The #1 threat to family values is divorce. McCain is divorced. Voting for him is a tacit approval divorce.

                              McCain has a legendary temper..that is the last guy i want with his finger on the button.

                              McCain is old. While not every old person has problems..clearly mccain is fatigued and forgetful. The press has noted that mccain doesn't keep the normal campaign pace.....and, you want him in the whitehouse...doing a job that takes mental and physical stamina? Well, it did till Bush set the record with vacay days.

                              The rest..i could go on and on...but, what is the point? You believe what you wanna believe.
                              Divorced, temper, old. Got it. That's why I should pick the guy who wants the U.S. to have humility when facing evil and wants to further advance socialism admittedly to the detriment of the country. OK.
                              Humility: That isn't what he said. Nice twist though.

                              Socialism: Hmm, i notice that you conservs always want capitalism when things are good..but want the socialism net when things go wrong..bear stearns, etc.

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