Anybody know anything about purchasing diamond rings...

[Tony Oday]

thanks for the help the keystone thing actually made sense. He'll love it and yes it is for a friend I have been married for 3 years already I just didnt have anyone to ask this stuff. I just paid what they asked

[CaptainKickass]

Actually, I agree with the Captain.

Thanks FC you seem to be anything but young and naive-

Retailguy -

If by "single and destined to remain that way" you mean that I'm not legally bound to a woman and if we decide to part ways I'm not on the hook for half my money - then you are absolutely correct.

I am a hopeless romantic when it comes to the ladies - exhibiting qualities of a proper gentleman provided she exhibits the ladylike class to warrant such treatment. More than half of all marriages end in divorce, and if you have any friends who are divorced or married for longer than 2 years, you'll see that there are more unhappy couples as a result of marriage.

I prefer to go against the norm and find ladies that are ok with this type of forward thinking. I'll cite Gene Simmons of Kiss for being an example here. He has been with the same woman for around 20 years with no marriage, no wedding ring, and no legal bond. The things that keep them together are the things that marriages are supposed to be about; trust, faith, desire, love, fun, support, encouragement, etc.etc. - which are the exact things I look for in a relationship with a woman.

How many jokes have you heard about what women and men become after marriage? Why do you think they're funny?

Because they are based in truth.

A few cliche's to live by:

"We learn from the past that people seldom learn from the past"

"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over agin and expecting different results"

Regards,

The Captain

[MJZiggy]

I prefer to go against the norm and find ladies that are ok with this type of forward thinking. I'll cite Gene Simmons of Kiss for being an example here. He has been with the same woman for around 20 years with no marriage, no wedding ring, and no legal bond. The things that keep them together are the things that marriages are supposed to be about; trust, faith, desire, love, fun, support, encouragement, etc.etc. - which are the exact things I look for in a relationship with a woman.

Should Gene Simmons and his lady ever split, she will get half of everything as they have been together a long time. Have you ever heard of common law marriage? I can tell you will all confidence that piece of paper or no, Gene Simmons is married as are you if you've been living with your current SO for more than 8 years. You just didn't get the cake.

[CaptainKickass]

Should Gene Simmons and his lady ever split, she will get half of everything as they have been together a long time. Have you ever heard of common law marriage? I can tell you will all confidence that piece of paper or no, Gene Simmons is married as are you if you've been living with your current SO for more than 8 years. You just didn't get the cake.

Correct to a point MJZiggy- There are only 10 states that recognize common law as of today, but it depends largely on what state you reside in, and how you go about conducting yourselves socially and legally. Hence the original reference to the pre-nuptuial.

Check out this link for some facts and myths regarding common law marriage: http://www.unmarried.org/common.html

Here's the bare bones of the deal - I do not want to be with a woman who is in it for my money. I'm no millionaire, but I have a great job with a major software company, a condo in the Juanita Country Club, and I can afford to do fun things like book an all expenses paid vacation to fly to Green Bay for a home game.

I've had this discussion many times with friends and acquaintances. If a woman is in love with me and is truly committed to being with me for who I am and not what I have - then that makes conventional marriage irrelevant.


Cheers!

[MadtownPacker]

My advice? DONT BUY HER SHIT!!!

[GrnBay007]

My advice? DONT BUY HER SHIT!!!

well, well.........I see it's about time for another round of sensitivity training for someone.




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[GrnBay007]

Hence the original reference to the pre-nuptuial.

In a relationship, the word prenuptial agreement brings about all kinds of feelings/thoughts of no trust and uncalled for thoughts the relationship/marriage won't last. Very untrue IMO.

It wouldn't bother me a bit to sign a prenuptial agreement. In fact at this stage in my life, having a good job and having kids, I just might be the one to request it. .....damn, wish I would have thought of that!!

[CaptainKickass]

In a relationship, the word prenuptial agreement brings about all kinds of feelings/thoughts of no trust and uncalled for thoughts the relationship/marriage won't last. Very untrue IMO.

I look at it this way - you don't do anything much without some sort of warranty or insurance. The Pre-Nup is simply divorce insurance.

I am not opposed to marriage but there is certainly something not quite right with both the system and society. Nearly all of the financial risk in marriage in the US is on the man due to the historic "provider" stereotype. If I am going to proceed with marriage then you bet your sweet, sweet hiney I want some kind of insurance.

[cosimoto]

I think the bigger question is: Why are women attracted to small shiny objects?

[GrnBay007]

I think the bigger question is: Why are women attracted to small shiny objects?

Who said we are attracted to small diamonds???



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[CaptainKickass]

The real question here is:

Why are women attracted to diamonds at all?

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[Harlan Huckleby]

The real question here is:

Why are women attracted to diamonds at all?

??

That's a kickass question! In all the fairy tales, the BEAUTIFUL damsel gets saved by the RICH prince, and they go live in his castle.

If the guy spends a lot of money, he must be a good provider, and he must love her a lot.

I don't know. Why do we care about big breasts?

[Bretsky]

The real question here is:

Why are women attracted to diamonds at all?

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Because those artificial stupid rocks are expensive

[MJZiggy]

Supposedly the gold band represents "love that has no beginning and no end" and the diamond represents permanence and scarcity as it is the hardest material on earth and "true love is scarce" and it is expensive meaning that you value her and your relationship (and you're not taking off while you're still paying for that rock).

Evidently it was a whole advertising thing done by deBeers around the turn of the century. It is truly the offseason.

[PackerPro42]

I agree with Madtownpacker. Don't buy her shit.