Ike and Crying Wolf

[HowardRoark]

How can you use, in your post, the word "please".....

Howard, you seem to have an elitist streak almost as wide as the God damned leftist assholes with your penchant for ignoring or trampling the right of good normal Americans to do as they damn well please with THEIR money--including deciding NOT to blow it on insurance.

.......yet be completely baffled by my same use of the word?

No offense to you, but you might want to give the old edit function a work out once in a while. " I PLEASE WITH MY MONEY!!!!" I'd like to respond to this line but I'm not sure what you mean.

As for the rest, I think I give up already.....well, I'll give it one more try:

1) uninsured who are treated still cost money.
2) medical facilities pass along these costs...
3) ...this is refledted in higher insurance premiums, or higher medical bills for all those who pay......
4) I don't like that, because then I can't afford to buy you a:

[mraynrand]

[texaspackerbacker]

How can you use, in your post, the word "please".....

Howard, you seem to have an elitist streak almost as wide as the God damned leftist assholes with your penchant for ignoring or trampling the right of good normal Americans to do as they damn well please with THEIR money--including deciding NOT to blow it on insurance.

.......yet be completely baffled by my same use of the word?

No offense to you, but you might want to give the old edit function a work out once in a while. " I PLEASE WITH MY MONEY!!!!" I'd like to respond to this line but I'm not sure what you mean.

As for the rest, I think I give up already.....well, I'll give it one more try:

1) uninsured who are treated still cost money.
2) medical facilities pass along these costs...
3) ...this is refledted in higher insurance premiums, or higher medical bills for all those who pay......
4) I don't like that, because then I can't afford to buy you a:

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No problem. I don't drink beer anyway.

I now understand--I guess--you want to do as you PLEASE with your money. Great--more power to you. Just don't forget, a lot of other people feel the same way, and some of us may not want to do the same as you want to do or don't want to do with yours.

As for your 1., 2., and 3, I agree completely that is the situation. I just don't see a problem with it. It beats the alternatives I have heard of: socialized Hillary/Obama care, intrusive regulation FORCING people to buy insurance, etc.

And the bottom line, I say again, is that this whole issue pales to insignificance compared to national security, tax cutting/maintaining prosperity, and maintaining American strength and dominance--ALL of which the leftists and Obamaphiles are so wrong on--hence, why they, like you guys, are so prone to divert to silly shit like health care, etc.

Aynrand, you brought up one excellent point I forgot, though. We do indeed already have the finest health care system in the world--which the libs want to CHANGE!

[HowardRoark]

I don't drink beer anyway.

That's not normalcy.

[Joemailman]

What kind of Patriot would say no to Samuel Adams?

[Charles Woodson]

Ike intensified from 80 mph to 135 mph in only 6 hours. Damn. +55.

If the hurricane hits me, im blaming you

[texaspackerbacker]

I started this thread a couple of weeks ago when Ike was way out in the Atlantic.

Now that it has come across the coast and moved way inland, is there a lesson to be learned? Hell Yeah, I'd say so. But it ain't what all the experts saying.

THEY CRIED WOLF AGAIN! They moved a bunch of people out--a bunch of others stayed and for the most part were glad they did. They OVER-HYPED EVERYTHING! They said 20 to 25 foot storm surge--well above the 17 foot seawall. The actual level topped out at 13.5 feet.

Some fool talked about "sure death" for the people who disobeyed the government effort to uproot people and make them evacuate. Well, the toll obviously could go up, but as of now, there is only 1 confirmed and 1 presumed dead--and both of those were well away from the landfall and worst area--a tree falling on a house north of Houston and somebody drowned in Corpus Christi a good hundred down the coast.

Sometime, something really bad is gonna come along, and people are just gonna say, "aw, it's just another false alarm". The media and government false alarmists really ought to be a little more careful to get their facts straight before a bunch of stupid panic-causing predictions.

I predict the death toll on the whole Gulf Coast turns out to be less than for the Los Angeles train wreck last night.

[HowardRoark]

I started this thread a couple of weeks ago when Ike was way out in the Atlantic.

Now that it has come across the coast and moved way inland, is there a lesson to be learned? Hell Yeah, I'd say so. But it ain't what all the experts saying.

THEY CRIED WOLF AGAIN! They moved a bunch of people out--a bunch of others stayed and for the most part were glad they did. They OVER-HYPED EVERYTHING! They said 20 to 25 foot storm surge--well above the 17 foot seawall. The actual level topped out at 13.5 feet.

Some fool talked about "sure death" for the people who disobeyed the government effort to uproot people and make them evacuate. Well, the toll obviously could go up, but as of now, there is only 1 confirmed and 1 presumed dead--and both of those were well away from the landfall and worst area--a tree falling on a house north of Houston and somebody drowned in Corpus Christi a good hundred down the coast.

Sometime, something really bad is gonna come along, and people are just gonna say, "aw, it's just another false alarm". The media and government false alarmists really ought to be a little more careful to get their facts straight before a bunch of stupid panic-causing predictions.

I predict the death toll on the whole Gulf Coast turns out to be less than for the Los Angeles train wreck last night.

Why do you think they act this way lately?

[texaspackerbacker]

I started this thread a couple of weeks ago when Ike was way out in the Atlantic.

Now that it has come across the coast and moved way inland, is there a lesson to be learned? Hell Yeah, I'd say so. But it ain't what all the experts saying.

THEY CRIED WOLF AGAIN! They moved a bunch of people out--a bunch of others stayed and for the most part were glad they did. They OVER-HYPED EVERYTHING! They said 20 to 25 foot storm surge--well above the 17 foot seawall. The actual level topped out at 13.5 feet.

Some fool talked about "sure death" for the people who disobeyed the government effort to uproot people and make them evacuate. Well, the toll obviously could go up, but as of now, there is only 1 confirmed and 1 presumed dead--and both of those were well away from the landfall and worst area--a tree falling on a house north of Houston and somebody drowned in Corpus Christi a good hundred down the coast.

Sometime, something really bad is gonna come along, and people are just gonna say, "aw, it's just another false alarm". The media and government false alarmists really ought to be a little more careful to get their facts straight before a bunch of stupid panic-causing predictions.

I predict the death toll on the whole Gulf Coast turns out to be less than for the Los Angeles train wreck last night.

Why do you think they act this way lately?

Good Question. I don't have an instant answer.

I doubt it's a left/right thing. Fox and the Republican-led state governments have been as bad or worse than the leftists.

Maybe it is a ratings or advertizing thing, but that wouldn't explain the government aspect.

Maybe it's been honestly hyper-careful--kind of a do-gooder mentality thing.

Maybe it's because of the large political price Bush and his people (and the Dems in Louisiana) had to pay for NOT being hyper-careful in Katrina.

I just don't know.

I did hear a couple of days ago that the American Red Cross was over $100 million in debt and soliciting contributions ..... ya think! Somebody pays for those over-hyped evacuations, and it ain't all government.