Yes, I can relate....

[SkinBasket]

Same focus was made on Hillary's pantsuits and how her dark colors made her appear cold and bitter.

Good point, but I think you got it backwards. It was Hillary that made the pantsuits look cold and bitter.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

It's very common for fashion designers, jewelers and handbag companies to loan things like this out for red carpet appearances and stuff. Heck, at the Oscar's this year, Diablo Cody's shoes alone were one million dollars.

On the other hand, the women are highly scrutinized when it comes to their looks. Do you ever hear the media having a 30 minute discussion on how tacky Obama looks with his dress shirt sleeves rolled up all the time? no. It's sad that the media has to focus on what look Sarah or Cindy need to do about their style. Same focus was made on Hillary's pantsuits and how her dark colors made her appear cold and bitter.

Actually, you are wrong. I have heard the media discuss Obama's look and the need to appear similar to the voters. Hence the rolled up sleeves. That is the common look when you are trying to appear ready to work..and appear more blue collarish.

[packinpatland]

My initial post was not meant to be a fashion 'critique'......it was simply meant to point out the cost of what she was wearing.
Seems to me that if you're going to try to appeal to 'small town America'....then wearing a $3000 dress might not be the best way to endear your party to the everyday working class.

[HarveyWallbangers]

My initial post was not meant to be a fashion 'critique'......it was simply meant to point out the cost of what she was wearing.
Seems to me that if you're going to try to appeal to 'small town America'....then wearing a $3000 dress might not be the best way to endear your party to the everyday working class.

You act like it's the first time the wife of a politician wore expensive clothing. I'm pretty sure middle America isn't too insulted. In fact, most of middle America isn't jealous of others doing well. Good for Cindy McCain.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

My initial post was not meant to be a fashion 'critique'......it was simply meant to point out the cost of what she was wearing.
Seems to me that if you're going to try to appeal to 'small town America'....then wearing a $3000 dress might not be the best way to endear your party to the everyday working class.

Are you suggesting that small town america doesn't wear 3K dresses.

Mccain defining rich, "I think if you're just talking about income, how about $5 million?"

Wonder how small town america defines being rich?

[Joemailman]

All this really means is that John McCain is smarter about economics than I thought.

That's true. He knew who to marry.

[mraynrand]

Mccain defining rich, "I think if you're just talking about income, how about $5 million?"

Wonder how small town america defines being rich?

The actual transcript:

Ok, on taxes, define "rich." Everybody talks about taxing the rich, but not the poor, the middle class. At what point - give me a number, give me a specific number - where do you move from middle class to rich?

Is it $100,000, is it $50,000, is it $200,000? How does anybody know if we don't know what the standards are? MCCAIN: Some of the richest people I've ever known in my life are the most unhappy. I think that rich should be defined by a home, a good job, an education and the ability to hand to our children a more prosperous and safer world than the one that we inherited.

I don't want to take any money from the rich -- I want everybody to get rich.

(LAUGHTER)

I don't believe in class warfare or re-distribution of the wealth. But I can tell you, for example, there are small businessmen and women who are working 16 hours a day, seven days a week that some people would classify as - quote - "rich," my friends, and want to raise their taxes and want to raise their payroll taxes.

Let's have - keep taxes low. Let's give every family in America a $7,000 tax credit for every child they have. Let's give them a $5,000 refundable tax credit to go out and get the health insurance of their choice. Let's not have the government take over the health care system in America.

(APPLAUSE)

So, I think if you are just talking about income, how about $5 million?

(LAUGHTER)

But seriously, I don't think you can - I don't think seriously that - the point is that I'm trying to make here, seriously -- and I'm sure that comment will be distorted (ed: Probably by guys like Ty Biggns) -- but the point is that we want to keep people's taxes low and increase revenues.

And, my friend, it was not taxes that mattered in America in the last several years. It was spending. Spending got completely out of control. We spent money in way that mortgaged our kids' futures.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

I know the transcript...i watched saddleback.

What did i distort. He was so far off from what most of america thinks is rich.

5 mill is 1/10 the top 1%.

Even the pastor thougth it would be in the lows six figures. You can spin away, but mccain is out of touch.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Same pandering that liberals have done for many years. It's really easy to say tax the rich. Does it make good economic sense? Hell no. Does it go against the ideals that this country was founded on? Hell yes.

[mraynrand]

I know the transcript...i watched saddleback.

What did i distort. He was so far off from what most of america thinks is rich.

5 mill is 1/10 the top 1%.

Even the pastor thougth it would be in the lows six figures. You can spin away, but mccain is out of touch.

He was joking around and just pulled a number out of the air - CLEARLY.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

I know the transcript...i watched saddleback.

What did i distort. He was so far off from what most of america thinks is rich.

5 mill is 1/10 the top 1%.

Even the pastor thougth it would be in the lows six figures. You can spin away, but mccain is out of touch.

He was joking around and just pulled a number out of the air - CLEARLY.

He was clearly uneasy answering the qeustion..same as houses.

Joking..so, he wasn't going to answer the question...not like obama.

[mraynrand]

I know the transcript...i watched saddleback.

What did i distort. He was so far off from what most of america thinks is rich.

5 mill is 1/10 the top 1%.

Even the pastor thougth it would be in the lows six figures. You can spin away, but mccain is out of touch.

He was joking around and just pulled a number out of the air - CLEARLY.

He was clearly uneasy answering the qeustion..same as houses.

Joking..so, he wasn't going to answer the question...not like obama.

Ha ha that's funny. Like Obama answered anything clearly in that forum at all. Most of the questions were above his pay grade, experience, etc.

[MJZiggy]

It's very common for fashion designers, jewelers and handbag companies to loan things like this out for red carpet appearances and stuff. Heck, at the Oscar's this year, Diablo Cody's shoes alone were one million dollars.

On the other hand, the women are highly scrutinized when it comes to their looks. Do you ever hear the media having a 30 minute discussion on how tacky Obama looks with his dress shirt sleeves rolled up all the time? no. It's sad that the media has to focus on what look Sarah or Cindy need to do about their style. Same focus was made on Hillary's pantsuits and how her dark colors made her appear cold and bitter.

Usually when those types of loans are made, they highly publicize who did the loaning. I bet you know (or could easily find out) where Diablo Cody got her shoes.

I agree with you about the differences in the scrutiny of men vs. women in the political arena. Hillary was not only criticized for her pantsuits, do you remember the flap about her hair and the headbands?

[Tyrone Bigguns]

I know the transcript...i watched saddleback.

What did i distort. He was so far off from what most of america thinks is rich.

5 mill is 1/10 the top 1%.

Even the pastor thougth it would be in the lows six figures. You can spin away, but mccain is out of touch.

He was joking around and just pulled a number out of the air - CLEARLY.

He was clearly uneasy answering the qeustion..same as houses.

Joking..so, he wasn't going to answer the question...not like obama.

Ha ha that's funny. Like Obama answered anything clearly in that forum at all. Most of the questions were above his pay grade, experience, etc.

Spin away. Obama answered the question..he defined what he thought was rich.

Mccain joked.

And, it is inconsistent with his criticisms of the Bush tax cut. Ooops.

I don’t think the governor’s tax cut is too big–it’s just misplaced. Sixty percent of the benefits from his tax cuts go to the wealthiest 10 percent of Americans–and that’s not the kind of tax relief that Americans need. … I don’t believe the wealthiest 10 percent of Americans should get 60 percent of the tax breaks. I think the lowest 10 percent should get the breaks.

[mraynrand]

McCAIN: "I think that rich should be defined by a home, a good job, an education and the ability to hand to our children a more prosperous and safer world than the one that we inherited."

Amen.