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  • Originally posted by mraynrand
    Originally posted by packinpatland
    McCain suspends his campaign, wants to postpone the debate.
    Then he gives a speech at The Clinton Global Initiative..........no less than 3 times he said "If I were elected President...."

    As Letterman suggested..........why suspend the campaign? Send out your 2nd in command, your VP............alone ( ) to carry on.


    http://utubecom.magnify.net/publish/...man%2C+sept+24
    In McCain's announcement yesterday he said he was suspending his campaign but would give that talk. I's a political move of course, bu ton two fronts - to make himself look better in the campaign and to actually go to Washington where he has a track record of bipartisan accomplishments (for better or for worse).

    Why don't you just write in 'Letterman' on your ballot?

    Did you listen to McCain's speech? Was I wrong about his mentioning 'if I'm elected President' ? That, to me, doesn't sound like suspending his campaign. That's taking advantage of a primetime moment.
    And why can't Palin carry on? Why can't his ads still air?


    Letterman is just a funny man........and because of the 'lightness' of his show, I happen to agree with McCain for cancelling. Now is not exactly the time for levity. But to cancel, making it sound like he was 'racing back to Washington...then do the Couric interview, stay the night and speak at Clintons Global In.? ................Just be honest John.

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    • Originally posted by HowardRoark
      I think that McCain suggesting that they both go back to Washington is brilliant. Call the "post partisan" candidate's bluff. What in the hell has Barack ever done in Washington, or Springfield for that matter?

      Barack says he will continue to campaign. Shocking. That's all he has ever done. Maybe he can write another book about himself and see if that helps.

      I can see him now in these crucial debates......his one ace in the hole will be to say in a whiny manner, "come on."
      McCain conveniently forgot to mention that it was Obama who first called him yesterday morning.

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      • Originally posted by packinpatland
        Originally posted by HowardRoark
        I think that McCain suggesting that they both go back to Washington is brilliant. Call the "post partisan" candidate's bluff. What in the hell has Barack ever done in Washington, or Springfield for that matter?

        Barack says he will continue to campaign. Shocking. That's all he has ever done. Maybe he can write another book about himself and see if that helps.

        I can see him now in these crucial debates......his one ace in the hole will be to say in a whiny manner, "come on."
        McCain conveniently forgot to mention that it was Obama who first called him yesterday morning.
        Fine. Then get your ass back to the Senate and show us some of that "post partisan" magic.

        His time is now. Yes he can. He is the one the Senate is waiting for.
        After lunch the players lounged about the hotel patio watching the surf fling white plumes high against the darkening sky. Clouds were piling up in the west… Vince Lombardi frowned.

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        • Originally posted by packinpatland
          http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/09/25/1445868.aspx


          COURIC: You've said, quote, "John McCain will reform the way Wall Street does business." Other than supporting stricter regulations of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac two years ago, can you give us any more example of his leading the charge for more oversight?
          PALIN: I think that the example that you just cited, with his warnings two years ago about Fannie and Freddie -- that, that's paramount. That's more than a heck of a lot of other senators and representatives did for us.
          COURIC: But he's been in Congress for 26 years. He's been chairman of the powerful Commerce Committee. And he has almost always sided with less regulation, not more.
          PALIN: He's also known as the maverick though. Taking shots from his own party, and certainly taking shots from the other party. Trying to get people to understand what he's been talking about--the need to reform government.
          COURIC: I'm just going to ask you one more time, not to belabor the point. Specific examples in his 26 years of pushing for more regulation?
          PALIN: I'll try to find you some and I'll bring them to you.


          That's it? No political analysis from Letterman? Keep trying Keith.
          "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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          • Originally posted by packinpatland
            Originally posted by HowardRoark
            I think that McCain suggesting that they both go back to Washington is brilliant. Call the "post partisan" candidate's bluff. What in the hell has Barack ever done in Washington, or Springfield for that matter?

            Barack says he will continue to campaign. Shocking. That's all he has ever done. Maybe he can write another book about himself and see if that helps.

            I can see him now in these crucial debates......his one ace in the hole will be to say in a whiny manner, "come on."
            McCain conveniently forgot to mention that it was Obama who first called him yesterday morning.
            sez you! Nyaaaah!
            "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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            • Originally posted by HowardRoark
              Originally posted by packinpatland
              Originally posted by HowardRoark
              I think that McCain suggesting that they both go back to Washington is brilliant. Call the "post partisan" candidate's bluff. What in the hell has Barack ever done in Washington, or Springfield for that matter?

              Barack says he will continue to campaign. Shocking. That's all he has ever done. Maybe he can write another book about himself and see if that helps.

              I can see him now in these crucial debates......his one ace in the hole will be to say in a whiny manner, "come on."
              McCain conveniently forgot to mention that it was Obama who first called him yesterday morning.
              Fine. Then get your ass back to the Senate and show us some of that "post partisan" magic.

              His time is now. Yes he can. He is the one the Senate is waiting for.
              Neither McCain nor Obama are on the relevant committee, where the actual compromise bill will be hammered out. Until the bill is out, the only thing McCain or Obama could do in Washington on this issue is hold photo-ops. After the bill is hammered out, both can be useful in drumming up support to make it a true bipartisan effort.

              What McCain is doing right now is just calculated showmanship. It may do some good to his campaign, but is of little value to the US economy.
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              • Originally posted by MadScientist
                Neither McCain nor Obama are on the relevant committee, where the actual compromise bill will be hammered out. Until the bill is out, the only thing McCain or Obama could do in Washington on this issue is hold photo-ops.
                That's right. The entire congress is just sitting by the door waiting for the committee to emerge with the bill in hand. No one could possibly be doing anything to influence what's on the bill, except the people sequestered in that room, who have no contact with the outside world, except through the sandwich waiter.
                "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                • Hey Ziggy, while your having fun pointing out the mistakes of Palin. Here's a good one for you and I think it's hilarious.

                  "Last night on CBS, Biden said when the stock market crashed in 1929, Franklin Roosevelt got on TV and didn't just talk about it. Franklin Roosevelt wasn't president in 1929. In 1929, there wasn't a TV, nobody was on TV because it wasn't invented."

                  This is from the guy who HAS 30 plus years of experience in Washington and he can't remember who was president at the time of the greatest stock market crash! If Biden is going to critize McCain and Palin for not getting fact right you better get them right yourself.

                  Maybe Biden was right when he slipped in another gaffe and said Hilary should've been chosen to be VP!

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                  • I think Hussein and Mac should get together Friday evening and talk about the situation this country finds itself in.
                    C.H.U.D.

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                    • Originally posted by packinpatland
                      Originally posted by HowardRoark
                      You're right on this one....... we spend too much on a war we shouldn't be in.......
                      Why do you think we should not be in the war?
                      With the situation in Afghanistan getting worse, with Bin Laden still a threat, with no WMD's found.......we could have gotten rid of Iraq's big guy alot more efficiently without the 'shock and awe' war that was raised.

                      There is no doubt in my mind that Hussein needed to be removed. The proven atocities against his people left no doubt.

                      But where were we when Darfur, or Rwanda's people were getting slaughtered?
                      Not sitting on oil.

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                      • Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                        Originally posted by packinpatland
                        Originally posted by HowardRoark
                        You're right on this one....... we spend too much on a war we shouldn't be in.......
                        Why do you think we should not be in the war?
                        With the situation in Afghanistan getting worse, with Bin Laden still a threat, with no WMD's found.......we could have gotten rid of Iraq's big guy alot more efficiently without the 'shock and awe' war that was raised.

                        There is no doubt in my mind that Hussein needed to be removed. The proven atocities against his people left no doubt.

                        But where were we when Darfur, or Rwanda's people were getting slaughtered?
                        Not sitting on oil.
                        Clinton had other things on his.....err......mind.
                        "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                        • Originally posted by mraynrand
                          Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                          Originally posted by packinpatland
                          Originally posted by HowardRoark
                          You're right on this one....... we spend too much on a war we shouldn't be in.......
                          Why do you think we should not be in the war?
                          With the situation in Afghanistan getting worse, with Bin Laden still a threat, with no WMD's found.......we could have gotten rid of Iraq's big guy alot more efficiently without the 'shock and awe' war that was raised.

                          There is no doubt in my mind that Hussein needed to be removed. The proven atocities against his people left no doubt.

                          But where were we when Darfur, or Rwanda's people were getting slaughtered?
                          Not sitting on oil.
                          Clinton had other things on his.....err......mind.
                          It might be nice if you could be factual. The UN's mandate forbids intervening in the internal politics of any country unless the crime of genocide is being committed.

                          The United States government did not recognize the genocide. I dont' believe Clinton is solely the government.

                          Should we ask where was Bush were during the buildup years to the genocide?

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                            turn the lights off
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                            • How could we, or any goverment not recognize this?


                              The Rwandan Genocide was the 1994 mass killing of hundreds of thousands of Rwanda's minority Tutsis and the moderates of its Hutu majority. Over the course of approximately 100 days, from April 6 through to mid July, at least 500,000 people were killed. Most estimates are of a death toll between 800,000 and 1,000,000.


                              This answers my own question


                              What a shame there wasn't any oil involved............

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                              • Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                                Originally posted by mraynrand
                                Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                                Originally posted by packinpatland
                                Originally posted by HowardRoark
                                You're right on this one....... we spend too much on a war we shouldn't be in.......
                                Why do you think we should not be in the war?
                                With the situation in Afghanistan getting worse, with Bin Laden still a threat, with no WMD's found.......we could have gotten rid of Iraq's big guy alot more efficiently without the 'shock and awe' war that was raised.

                                There is no doubt in my mind that Hussein needed to be removed. The proven atocities against his people left no doubt.

                                But where were we when Darfur, or Rwanda's people were getting slaughtered?
                                Not sitting on oil.
                                Clinton had other things on his.....err......mind.
                                It might be nice if you could be factual.
                                I was. Clinton was busy with other things. Do you deny it?
                                "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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