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  • Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns

    Corrections have yet to appear at USS Neverdock, Atlas Shrugs, Clayton Cramer, American Power, Sweetness & Light, Flopping Aces, and a million other rightwing citizen journalist outlets where the story was disseminated. But don't worry, it'll all be forgotten as soon as they get those new Michelle Obama tapes!

    Game, Set, Match.

    You might want to check your own sources before you post incorrect items. I only looked to one site. I suspect you're wrong about many of the others. It is your way

    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/a...dacity-of.html (Dated Monday Oct 20)
    "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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    • Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns

      And, here comes the hypocrisy...etc...
      At least you tangentially admit it's a non-story.
      "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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      • Originally posted by mraynrand
        Originally posted by hoosier
        Originally posted by mraynrand
        Originally posted by Freak Out
        Bobble....did you listen to what Powell said? Did you listen to all the reasons he gave for endorsing Hussein and not Mac and Palin?
        Eloquence and rhetoric.

        I'll paraphrase Mark Steyn who said of Obama: "The music is great, but the lyrics are terrible."
        You're coming across here as someone who believes what is convenient and discards the rest. I understand that you may not agree with Powell's assessment of the two candidates, but to write what he said off as "eloquence and rhetoric" is to approach Tex-like myopia.
        Those were some of his most prominent comments. I considered everything he said, pretty much. I found his explanation for his endorsement overall quite shallow - and transparent. I would have liked some challenging questions asked. My comment on his endorsing Obama for his eloquence and rhetoric was an opportunity for a quip from Steyn that I think sums up the Obama phenomenon quite nicely in a snap shot. I see and talk to a lot of people who love Obama and the whole idea of him as president, but who know relatively little about what he is going to do and what he stands for.
        You mention "eloquence," but what happened to the issues of substance that Powell mentions: Obama's "steadiness," his "intellectual curiosity," his judgment, and his leadership? You say you found Powell's endorsement "shallow" and "transparent" because you don't see in Obama the qualities that Powell does. And if you can't see them, they must not be there--right?

        At the same time, Powell's endorsement of Obama is as much a criticism of the kind of campaign run by McCain as it is an affirmation of Obama's campaign. Powell recognizes that McCain's discourse has become increasingly narrow-minded and negative, and that his lapse in judgment in choosing a VP was a total failure to live up to the presidential mandate. McCain screwed it up big time, and he's continuing to tarnish his legacy--that's what Powell is saying. You can't see what Powell is talking about because of ideological differences, but that's where he's pointing.

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        • Originally posted by mraynrand
          Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns

          Corrections have yet to appear at USS Neverdock, Atlas Shrugs, Clayton Cramer, American Power, Sweetness & Light, Flopping Aces, and a million other rightwing citizen journalist outlets where the story was disseminated. But don't worry, it'll all be forgotten as soon as they get those new Michelle Obama tapes!

          Game, Set, Match.

          You might want to check your own sources before you post incorrect items. I only looked to one site. I suspect you're wrong about many of the others. It is your way

          http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/a...dacity-of.html (Dated Monday Oct 20)
          At the time of the post retraction they hadn't. Now, they have. I can't be expected to wallow thru shit all the time.

          More to the point, i didn't see you castigating the poster for this type of worthless story. Ooops.

          Guess that only works when a liberal does it.

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          • Originally posted by mraynrand
            Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns

            And, here comes the hypocrisy...etc...
            At least you tangentially admit it's a non-story.
            Which is 100% more than you do.

            Your intellectual dishonesty has been noted. Again.

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            • Originally posted by hoosier
              Originally posted by mraynrand
              Originally posted by hoosier
              Originally posted by mraynrand
              Originally posted by Freak Out
              Bobble....did you listen to what Powell said? Did you listen to all the reasons he gave for endorsing Hussein and not Mac and Palin?
              Eloquence and rhetoric.

              I'll paraphrase Mark Steyn who said of Obama: "The music is great, but the lyrics are terrible."
              You're coming across here as someone who believes what is convenient and discards the rest. I understand that you may not agree with Powell's assessment of the two candidates, but to write what he said off as "eloquence and rhetoric" is to approach Tex-like myopia.
              Those were some of his most prominent comments. I considered everything he said, pretty much. I found his explanation for his endorsement overall quite shallow - and transparent. I would have liked some challenging questions asked. My comment on his endorsing Obama for his eloquence and rhetoric was an opportunity for a quip from Steyn that I think sums up the Obama phenomenon quite nicely in a snap shot. I see and talk to a lot of people who love Obama and the whole idea of him as president, but who know relatively little about what he is going to do and what he stands for.
              You mention "eloquence," but what happened to the issues of substance that Powell mentions: Obama's "steadiness," his "intellectual curiosity," his judgment, and his leadership? You say you found Powell's endorsement "shallow" and "transparent" because you don't see in Obama the qualities that Powell does. And if you can't see them, they must not be there--right?

              At the same time, Powell's endorsement of Obama is as much a criticism of the kind of campaign run by McCain as it is an affirmation of Obama's campaign. Powell recognizes that McCain's discourse has become increasingly narrow-minded and negative, and that his lapse in judgment in choosing a VP was a total failure to live up to the presidential mandate. McCain screwed it up big time, and he's continuing to tarnish his legacy--that's what Powell is saying. You can't see what Powell is talking about because of ideological differences, but that's where he's pointing.

              WOW mrayn got PWNED!
              Baah

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              • Originally posted by gex
                Originally posted by hoosier
                Originally posted by mraynrand
                Originally posted by hoosier
                Originally posted by mraynrand
                Originally posted by Freak Out
                Bobble....did you listen to what Powell said? Did you listen to all the reasons he gave for endorsing Hussein and not Mac and Palin?
                Eloquence and rhetoric.

                I'll paraphrase Mark Steyn who said of Obama: "The music is great, but the lyrics are terrible."
                You're coming across here as someone who believes what is convenient and discards the rest. I understand that you may not agree with Powell's assessment of the two candidates, but to write what he said off as "eloquence and rhetoric" is to approach Tex-like myopia.
                Those were some of his most prominent comments. I considered everything he said, pretty much. I found his explanation for his endorsement overall quite shallow - and transparent. I would have liked some challenging questions asked. My comment on his endorsing Obama for his eloquence and rhetoric was an opportunity for a quip from Steyn that I think sums up the Obama phenomenon quite nicely in a snap shot. I see and talk to a lot of people who love Obama and the whole idea of him as president, but who know relatively little about what he is going to do and what he stands for.
                You mention "eloquence," but what happened to the issues of substance that Powell mentions: Obama's "steadiness," his "intellectual curiosity," his judgment, and his leadership? You say you found Powell's endorsement "shallow" and "transparent" because you don't see in Obama the qualities that Powell does. And if you can't see them, they must not be there--right?

                At the same time, Powell's endorsement of Obama is as much a criticism of the kind of campaign run by McCain as it is an affirmation of Obama's campaign. Powell recognizes that McCain's discourse has become increasingly narrow-minded and negative, and that his lapse in judgment in choosing a VP was a total failure to live up to the presidential mandate. McCain screwed it up big time, and he's continuing to tarnish his legacy--that's what Powell is saying. You can't see what Powell is talking about because of ideological differences, but that's where he's pointing.

                WOW mrayn got PWNED!
                Obama's "steadiness".........examples?

                his "intellectual curiosity".......I'll give you this one; he is curious abot eveything on the Left or Marxist. Anything else?

                his judgment........any examples? "Present" doesn't count.

                and his leadership .......(see above)


                You say you found Powell's endorsement "shallow" and "transparent" ......I think this is a big "make up call" for when he was at the UN talking about aluminum cylinders and whatnot. He is proud man, as well he should be.



                BTW, I am putting my budget together for next year, any word yet as to whether or not we will have to tithe to Obama?
                After lunch the players lounged about the hotel patio watching the surf fling white plumes high against the darkening sky. Clouds were piling up in the west… Vince Lombardi frowned.

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                • Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                  Originally posted by mraynrand
                  Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns

                  Corrections have yet to appear at USS Neverdock, Atlas Shrugs, Clayton Cramer, American Power, Sweetness & Light, Flopping Aces, and a million other rightwing citizen journalist outlets where the story was disseminated. But don't worry, it'll all be forgotten as soon as they get those new Michelle Obama tapes!

                  Game, Set, Match.

                  You might want to check your own sources before you post incorrect items. I only looked to one site. I suspect you're wrong about many of the others. It is your way

                  http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/a...dacity-of.html (Dated Monday Oct 20)
                  At the time of the post retraction they hadn't. Now, they have. I can't be expected to wallow thru shit all the time.

                  More to the point, i didn't see you castigating the poster for this type of worthless story. Ooops.

                  Guess that only works when a liberal does it.
                  I didn't have to, because you took care of it. I also didn't know it had been shown to be false. You were incorrect in your facts. Wallow through your own shit sometime so we don't have to.
                  "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                  • Originally posted by hoosier
                    Originally posted by mraynrand
                    Originally posted by hoosier
                    Originally posted by mraynrand
                    Originally posted by Freak Out
                    Bobble....did you listen to what Powell said? Did you listen to all the reasons he gave for endorsing Hussein and not Mac and Palin?
                    Eloquence and rhetoric.

                    I'll paraphrase Mark Steyn who said of Obama: "The music is great, but the lyrics are terrible."
                    You're coming across here as someone who believes what is convenient and discards the rest. I understand that you may not agree with Powell's assessment of the two candidates, but to write what he said off as "eloquence and rhetoric" is to approach Tex-like myopia.
                    Those were some of his most prominent comments. I considered everything he said, pretty much. I found his explanation for his endorsement overall quite shallow - and transparent. I would have liked some challenging questions asked. My comment on his endorsing Obama for his eloquence and rhetoric was an opportunity for a quip from Steyn that I think sums up the Obama phenomenon quite nicely in a snap shot. I see and talk to a lot of people who love Obama and the whole idea of him as president, but who know relatively little about what he is going to do and what he stands for.
                    You mention "eloquence," but what happened to the issues of substance that Powell mentions: Obama's "steadiness," his "intellectual curiosity," his judgment, and his leadership? You say you found Powell's endorsement "shallow" and "transparent" because you don't see in Obama the qualities that Powell does. And if you can't see them, they must not be there--right?

                    At the same time, Powell's endorsement of Obama is as much a criticism of the kind of campaign run by McCain as it is an affirmation of Obama's campaign. Powell recognizes that McCain's discourse has become increasingly narrow-minded and negative, and that his lapse in judgment in choosing a VP was a total failure to live up to the presidential mandate. McCain screwed it up big time, and he's continuing to tarnish his legacy--that's what Powell is saying. You can't see what Powell is talking about because of ideological differences, but that's where he's pointing.
                    Yes, I fundamentally disagree with Powell. I see no curiosity from Obama. No ability to work across the aisle on anything other than the obvious (Obama wanted to secure Russian nukes - who wouldn't?). I also disagree on the McCain campaign. He's covered all the issues. He has to point out Obama's past because the press other than FOX and online stuff won't do it in any honest way. Powell completely ignores the compltely biased and one side nature of the coverage of McCain and Palin by most major news outlets. What is the presidential mandate for VPs? Shouldn't they at least agree with their running mate about the most important foreign policy decision of our generation? What does Powell think about Obama's judgment in picking a VP candidate who openly lies in his debate, who disagreed with Powell on Powell's most important role in his lifetime?
                    "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                    • Originally posted by Freak Out
                      Bobble....did you listen to what Powell said? Did you listen to all the reasons he gave for endorsing Hussein and not Mac and Palin?
                      yes...i listened...he is lying. He and mccain were lock step on the iraq war while obama was screaming pull out like a 17 year old on prom night.

                      Hoosier...my stereotype that blacks stick together...recent polls show obama winning 94-1 in the black vote...your right, i'm flawed.

                      Powell has always endorsed socially liberal republicans...guys like mccain. You don't have to like it, and you can try and make a bad arguement, but powell sold us iraq, was fully vested in iraq, and is now backing the candidate who got his nomination based on never wishing to go into iraq...why would that be?? I don't care, its his right, but to tell me its cuz of barry's politics is to piss on me and tell me its raining.
                      The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                      • Originally posted by MJZiggy
                        Originally posted by sheepshead

                        This is...crap
                        Care to elaborate or is this the best you've got?
                        read my above post...but it is crap that wasn't worthy of the response I gave it.
                        The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                        • Originally posted by bobblehead

                          Hoosier...my stereotype that blacks stick together...recent polls show obama winning 94-1 in the black vote...your right, i'm flawed..
                          The Cleveland Plain dealer reported that 98% of Blacks are voting Obama and zero percent McCain. 2% still think Kucinich is running.
                          "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                          • Originally posted by mraynrand
                            Originally posted by bobblehead

                            Hoosier...my stereotype that blacks stick together...recent polls show obama winning 94-1 in the black vote...your right, i'm flawed..
                            The Cleveland Plain dealer reported that 98% of Blacks are voting Obama and zero percent McCain. 2% still think Kucinich is running.
                            ......"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover they can vote themselves largess out of the public treasury." Alexis de Tocqueville

                            "From that time on the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits" Unattributed, various

                            .....and Gerald Ford too:

                            "A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have."
                            After lunch the players lounged about the hotel patio watching the surf fling white plumes high against the darkening sky. Clouds were piling up in the west… Vince Lombardi frowned.

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                            • Originally posted by HowardRoark
                              Originally posted by mraynrand
                              Originally posted by bobblehead

                              Hoosier...my stereotype that blacks stick together...recent polls show obama winning 94-1 in the black vote...your right, i'm flawed..
                              The Cleveland Plain dealer reported that 98% of Blacks are voting Obama and zero percent McCain. 2% still think Kucinich is running.
                              ......"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover they can vote themselves largess out of the public treasury." Alexis de Tocqueville

                              "From that time on the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits" Unattributed, various

                              .....and Gerald Ford too:

                              "A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have."
                              isn't the last one thomas jefferson?? I haven't looked it up in a long time.
                              The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                              • Originally posted by bobblehead
                                Originally posted by HowardRoark
                                Originally posted by mraynrand
                                Originally posted by bobblehead

                                Hoosier...my stereotype that blacks stick together...recent polls show obama winning 94-1 in the black vote...your right, i'm flawed..
                                The Cleveland Plain dealer reported that 98% of Blacks are voting Obama and zero percent McCain. 2% still think Kucinich is running.
                                ......"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover they can vote themselves largess out of the public treasury." Alexis de Tocqueville

                                "From that time on the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits" Unattributed, various

                                .....and Gerald Ford too:

                                "A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have."
                                isn't the last one thomas jefferson?? I haven't looked it up in a long time.
                                There seems to be some debate on this subject, but from what Ihave read, I think it's ford.
                                After lunch the players lounged about the hotel patio watching the surf fling white plumes high against the darkening sky. Clouds were piling up in the west… Vince Lombardi frowned.

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