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  • AMISH GRACE

    They may look all the same to outsiders--with quaint old-world practices brought over from Europe in the 1700s, and a distinctive way of life drawn from their reading of the Bible. But close to two years ago we learned from the Amish something profound about a people who refuse to be defined by the evil that assaults them.

    The Amish often read the words of an old German hymn when they bury their dead.

    In the small community of Nickel Mines, Pennsylvania, this time two years ago they had need of words that comfort and mourn...

    Five little girls had been buried in their simple white dresses...

    Five others were in critical condition, their survival uncertain...

    Among people bound by strong ties of family, faith, and tradition, whose children do not watch violent movies, video games, or television, ordinary life had been upended by wrenching horror...

    On a cloudless October morning. Under a blue sky that reminded some people there of 9/11. The school bell called the children in from play.

    Their teacher, Emma, read from the Bible, the children stood and recited the Lord's Prayer in German, then sang hymns in German and in English.

    'Death often comes quickly,' said one of the hymns…. . 'He who today is vigorous and ruddy, may tomorrow, or sooner, have passed away.'

    At around 10:15, a local milk truck driver named Charles Roberts IV, entered the school house bearing a small arsenal and a grudge against God.

    After ordering the girls to lie face down on the floor, he called his wife on the phone and told her he was angry at God for the death of their firstborn daughter, Elise, nine years earlier. In execution style, Roberts began firing his semi-automatic pistol into the little girls lying on the floor. As police crashed into the school, he shot himself dead.

    The media descended on Nickel Mines and the story circled the globe. As the Amish mourned and buried their children they were showered with messages and gifts from all over the world.

    But what proved most helpful, we learned, was something hard to describe - 'a common painful thread' that drew the families together. The authors of Amish grace say the community had been prepared by thick habits of 'mutual aid', rooted in the New Testament commandment 'to bear one another's burdens'"

    Then, 'with a swiftness that startled the world,' the stricken Amish did something remarkable — they forgave the killer, Charles Roberts, and reached out to his widow and children.

    Three Amish men showed up one evening, to express their sorrow. Another called on the killer's father and for an hour held him in his arms. When Roberts himself was buried, next to his daughter, more than half the mourners at the cemetery were Amish. It was, one of them said, simply the right thing to do.


    ANNOUNCER: "Have you already forgiven?"

    AMISH GRANDFATHER: "In my heart, yes."

    ANNOUNCER: "How is that possible?"

    AMISH GRANDFATHER: "Through God's help."

    TV COVERAGE: The Amish have forgiven the shooter...

    But Amish grace is not cheap grace. The people and their ways may appear simple but they defy simplistic judgments. Their faith was born in suffering centuries ago, when their forebears called for a voluntary church free and separate from government and were martyred by the thousands at the hands of Protestants and Catholics alike. Grief is no stranger to the Amish, and healing has never been easy.


    But one of the grieving fathers said, as they had released the killer, they had released themselves from anger and from bitterness. But not from pain.

    A year after the killings in Pennsylvania, the old school has been torn down and replaced with one named 'New Hope'.

    Three of the surviving five girls are back in class with the same teacher. On October 2 the school was closed and silent for the day, in remembrance.

    On the anniversary of their loss, the community once again spoke to the larger world, in a statement saying that 'forgiveness is a journey...you need help from your community of faith and from God, and sometimes even from counselors, to make and hold on to a decision to not become a hostage to hostility.' Hostility, they said, 'destroys community.'


    Maybe Harlan's right........Maybe we do need to move on.....
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    • Originally posted by Scott Campbell
      Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
      911 was caused by incompetents.

      I agree with this. We had an invitingly soft underbelly exposed to an enemy we should have known would take advantage of it. It could have been anticipated. It should have been anticipated. And part of the good that came from all the suffering was that there were lessons learned.

      Do you give the opposing team credit for attacking Jarret Bush in our secondary. No. Our team is accountable for fielding a better CB. So I don't blame the terrorists for 911. They were just taking what the defense gave them. I blame Kurt Schottenheimer.

      Good God - I agree with Harlan on something. I need a shower.
      So, if I murder you in your sleep its cool cuz you should have had a better alarm system?
      The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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      • Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
        Originally posted by mraynrand
        40% of young UK Muslims want sharia law
        Over a third say conversion from Islam should be 'punished by death'

        http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=54018
        Ayn did make valid point about how much of a problem the Islamists are in Europe. It made me realize how warm and fuzzy our Mexicans are, they're positively adorable in comparison. Time for people to stop bitchin, wake up and smell the MExicans.
        I don't have rands skills for finding pictures...but insert a jerry mcguirre:

        "I LOVE THE BROWN MAN!!!!"
        The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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        • Originally posted by Scott Campbell
          Sorry for your inconvenience Tarlam. But its the lesser of 2 evils. My kids don't like having to lock their bikes up either. But it beats having them stolen. It's too bad, but Mayberry doesn't exist anymore.
          Let me show you gov't at work.

          9/11 occurs...simple solution. Lock off the cockpit from the cabin and make it policy to land any hijacked plane at the nearest terminal. Planes can never be used for a weapon again.

          Gov't solution: random strip searches of 70 year old white grandmas. Fingernail files getting broken at security points. You can't carry water past security point. Billions of dollars are spent on new administrative positions and manual checking stations. Millions of travelers are extremely inconvenienced. Security toy soldier renta cops think they are dirty harry.
          The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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          • Originally posted by Iron Mike

            Maybe Harlan's right........Maybe we do need to move on.....


            I think moving on becomes much more possible if the perp is in jail or dead. Our perps are still out there, and they still want to kill us.

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            • Originally posted by bobblehead
              Gov't solution: random strip searches of 70 year old white grandmas. Fingernail files getting broken at security points. You can't carry water past security point. Billions of dollars are spent on new administrative positions and manual checking stations. Millions of travelers are extremely inconvenienced. Security toy soldier renta cops think they are dirty harry.

              I agree. Much of that is for the appearance of safety, rather than real meaningful safety policy.

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              • (No)Ballhawk, I'm still waiting to here what nations you think are equal to or better than America/Americans--by any rational criteria including the lame things you cited.
                What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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                • Originally posted by bobblehead
                  Originally posted by Scott Campbell
                  Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                  911 was caused by incompetents.

                  I agree with this. We had an invitingly soft underbelly exposed to an enemy we should have known would take advantage of it. It could have been anticipated. It should have been anticipated. And part of the good that came from all the suffering was that there were lessons learned.

                  Do you give the opposing team credit for attacking Jarret Bush in our secondary. No. Our team is accountable for fielding a better CB. So I don't blame the terrorists for 911. They were just taking what the defense gave them. I blame Kurt Schottenheimer.

                  Good God - I agree with Harlan on something. I need a shower.
                  So, if I murder you in your sleep its cool cuz you should have had a better alarm system?

                  HAHAHAHA!

                  Good luck getting past my dog. Or my wives.

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                  • Originally posted by texaspackerbacker
                    (No)Ballhawk, I'm still waiting to here what nations you think are equal to or better than America/Americans--by any rational criteria including the lame things you cited.


                    Iceland has more hot chicks per capita.

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                    • Originally posted by texaspackerbacker
                      (No)Ballhawk, I'm still waiting to here what nations you think are equal to or better than America/Americans--by any rational criteria including the lame things you cited.
                      Iceland
                      Norway
                      Australia
                      Canada
                      Ireland
                      Sweden
                      Switzerland
                      Japan
                      Netherlands
                      France
                      Finland
                      "I've got one word for you- Dallas, Texas, Super Bowl"- Jermichael Finley

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                      • Originally posted by BallHawk
                        Originally posted by texaspackerbacker
                        (No)Ballhawk, I'm still waiting to here what nations you think are equal to or better than America/Americans--by any rational criteria including the lame things you cited.
                        Iceland
                        Norway
                        Australia
                        Canada
                        Ireland
                        Sweden
                        Switzerland
                        Japan
                        Netherlands
                        France
                        Finland
                        Countries only a socialist could love! Which one are you gonna move too--since you prefer them to the U.S.?

                        And what will become of them when your boy, Obama, gets in and takes away the American umbrella of protection for them? If you like Euro-style socialism, you'll probably LOVE jihadist-style Sharia Law.

                        Congrats on responding, though. That puts you a cut above most of the truly No-Ball leftists in the forum.
                        What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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                        • Originally posted by texaspackerbacker
                          Originally posted by BallHawk
                          Originally posted by texaspackerbacker
                          (No)Ballhawk, I'm still waiting to here what nations you think are equal to or better than America/Americans--by any rational criteria including the lame things you cited.
                          Iceland
                          Norway
                          Australia
                          Canada
                          Ireland
                          Sweden
                          Switzerland
                          Japan
                          Netherlands
                          France
                          Finland
                          Countries only a socialist could love! Which one are you gonna move too--since you prefer them to the U.S.?

                          And what will become of them when your boy, Obama, gets in and takes away the American umbrella of protection for them? If you like Euro-style socialism, you'll probably LOVE jihadist-style Sharia Law.

                          Congrats on responding, though. That puts you a cut above most of the truly No-Ball leftists in the forum.
                          Congrats on waiting until he posted to lambast him! Especially since you would have done so regardless of what he would have listed...
                          Busting drunk drivers in Antarctica since 2006

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                          • Originally posted by texaspackerbacker
                            Originally posted by BallHawk
                            Originally posted by texaspackerbacker
                            (No)Ballhawk, I'm still waiting to here what nations you think are equal to or better than America/Americans--by any rational criteria including the lame things you cited.
                            Iceland
                            Norway
                            Australia
                            Canada
                            Ireland
                            Sweden
                            Switzerland
                            Japan
                            Netherlands
                            France
                            Finland
                            Countries only a socialist could love! Which one are you gonna move too--since you prefer them to the U.S.?

                            And what will become of them when your boy, Obama, gets in and takes away the American umbrella of protection for them? If you like Euro-style socialism, you'll probably LOVE jihadist-style Sharia Law.

                            Congrats on responding, though. That puts you a cut above most of the truly No-Ball leftists in the forum.
                            Ireland is much more capitalist than the USA at this point, we should be copying them....and I can't move their, they don't let people in very easily....unlike us where you can simply sneak across the border.
                            The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                            • All the countries I listed have something in common. First one to realize what it is gets a prize.
                              "I've got one word for you- Dallas, Texas, Super Bowl"- Jermichael Finley

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                              • Originally posted by bobblehead
                                Originally posted by texaspackerbacker
                                Originally posted by BallHawk
                                Originally posted by texaspackerbacker
                                (No)Ballhawk, I'm still waiting to here what nations you think are equal to or better than America/Americans--by any rational criteria including the lame things you cited.
                                Iceland
                                Norway
                                Australia
                                Canada
                                Ireland
                                Sweden
                                Switzerland
                                Japan
                                Netherlands
                                France
                                Finland
                                Countries only a socialist could love! Which one are you gonna move too--since you prefer them to the U.S.?

                                And what will become of them when your boy, Obama, gets in and takes away the American umbrella of protection for them? If you like Euro-style socialism, you'll probably LOVE jihadist-style Sharia Law.

                                Congrats on responding, though. That puts you a cut above most of the truly No-Ball leftists in the forum.
                                Ireland is much more capitalist than the USA at this point, we should be copying them....and I can't move their, they don't let people in very easily....unlike us where you can simply sneak across the border.
                                Rigorous immigration policy based on proper usage of: there, their, and they're.

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