What would YOU do?

[Scott Campbell]

Folks, the force of society is far greater than the force of parenthood. If you can't stop your teenage daughter from having sex, you sure as will can't stop her from doing drugs.

Just because you and I lack the will to control our behavior doesn't mean you have to try and justify that behavior to others. There are kids out there who can and will abstain. My hat goes off too them, and I doubt they'll reflect back on their teenage years and wish they had banged more pimply faced kids while they had the chance.

You believing everything you hear in a Sociology 101 class is worse than someone believing everything Florio writes on PFT.

[Scott Campbell]

I said the same thing when I was 14. I was a member of the say "Say No to Drugs" club. Ray Rhodes came to our school and talked about the danger of drugs. Afterward, I promised myself I will never do drugs in my life.

I was delusional then. Doing drugs such as marijuana and coke-cain is inevitable. You will experience it one day, young man. And when you do, you will love it.

I don't think glamorizing drug use was Tank's point (hopefully)

Well, I guess we disagree on that Fosco.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

You believing everything you hear in a Sociology 101 class is worse than someone believing everything Florio writes on PFT.

Show me your Ph.D. Campbell, and I'll find truth in you, too.

[Scott Campbell]

You believing everything you hear in a Sociology 101 class is worse than someone believing everything Florio writes on PFT.

Show me your Ph.D. Campbell, and I'll find truth in you, too.

I could care less about helping people find my truths. This is about exposing your falsehoods.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

I could care less about helping people find my truths. This is about exposing your falsehoods.

Campbell and campbell, I believe a wise man named Woodbuck once said you are prone to taking things out of proportion. The above qoute examplifies that (pardon my spellings; i dont spell check here at work).

I am not encourging 14 years old to do drugs. I am stating that, because of the force of society, they will, more liekly than not, eventually try it. Kind of like what fosco wrote.

[SkinBasket]

You believing everything you hear in a Sociology 101 class is worse than someone believing everything Florio writes on PFT.

Show me your Ph.D. Campbell, and I'll find truth in you, too.

LOL. Now THAT is the dumbest thing you have ever said Tank, and that is saying alot. Congrats on a new level of ignorance!

[Scott Campbell]

I am not encourging 14 years old to do drugs.

Doing drugs such as marijuana and coke-cain is inevitable. You will experience it one day, young man. And when you do, you will love it.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

I am not encourging 14 years old to do drugs.

Doing drugs such as marijuana and coke-cain is inevitable. You will experience it one day, young man. And when you do, you will love it.

You contradict yourself.

I guess you have never experience marijuana and coke. Have you? Until you encountered that high, you have no idea what I am talking about.

[Scott Campbell]

I am not encourging 14 years old to do drugs.

Doing drugs such as marijuana and coke-cain is inevitable. You will experience it one day, young man. And when you do, you will love it.

You contradict yourself.

I guess you have never experience marijuana and coke. Have you? Until you encountered that high, you have no idea what I am talking about.

How does that have anything to do with what we are talking about? You said you were not encouraging 14 year olds to do drugs. I say you are.

Try and stay on topic.

[Deputy Nutz]

Yes kids, be like Tank and spell Cocain, coke-cain. I never knew that it was two words combined with a dash.

To each their own. But if a little fuck like Tank ever came sniffing around my daughter that is the last you would see of that little puke faced bastard. The fun thing is that I will have all the money I will ever need to ship my daughter or son off to some boarding school or military school if they start fucking up their lives because of the force of society. I will have nothing better to do with my life than to hound over my kids, and make sure that society doesn't come into conflict with the morals of my family.

I will also not be one of those parents with their head stuck into the sand. I know whats out their and I know about this force of society, or peer pressure. I know what drugs and alcohol feel like, I know the feelings you have when you puff on a grit infront of that really hot girl that is also smoking and you develop an imaginary bond because you thought you shared a stupid fucking moment smoking a fucking cig.

I will also not be a parent that will think that kids need to experience these things for themselves. Thats a bullshit excuse for not doing your job as a respectable parent. No you can't control every single breath your child takes, but you just letting them know if they need a ride home after toking their brains into mush, or drinking until the fucking Walrus starts to dance is not a reasonable parenting technique. Why, because when kids are "experimenting for the 45th time in high school, their judgement tends to be a little corrupted by these substances, and they fail to recognize the responsible thing to do. I know, because I did the same in high school, my parents offered me rides no questions asked, but did I take them? No, I rode with the first drunk that offered me a ride home.

I am a parent of two little ones, and I am not pig headed enough to believe that drugs and alcohol won't play a roll in their teenage years, heck I know they will probably even try them. It is my job as a parent to guide my kids through those times, with previous lessons, and present instruction and parenting. Do I think that drinking and smoking a little weed is the worst thing? No not at all. Like I said I actually expect my kids to experiment, but my kids will have the expectations that if they do these things, then their will be consequences if I find out, and like I said, I will have nothing better to do than to hound my kids, so I will find out.

[Scott Campbell]

Tank is a college kid - he seems to be focusing on the right things (getting a degree, maintaining a job/intership).

Focus on the right things???

IMO, Tank has an unhealthy obsession with always being right no matter how moronic his position. That, and justifying his counter productive behavior. His passion for higher learning seems to have a misguided focus on searching for better and better excuses - that's his focus. That, and doing the bare minimum required to get by. See his paper on Greenspan and his thread about how to loaf off as an intern for further evidence.

I always thought part of getting a college education was supposed to include questioning yourself and your beliefs. I see no willingness from Tank to consider anyone other than himself, unless that someone happens to parrot his goofy positions. All I see is a guy who whines that the world is mean and cruel, so please excuse him while he goes and gets high. His brand of Liberalism looks more like a convenient excuse than a deeply held ideology.

Now I think he still has time to get himself turned around. But he's not 18 anymore. He doesn't have forever.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

I am not encourging 14 years old to do drugs.

Doing drugs such as marijuana and coke-cain is inevitable. You will experience it one day, young man. And when you do, you will love it.

You contradict yourself.

I guess you have never experience marijuana and coke. Have you? Until you encountered that high, you have no idea what I am talking about.

How does that have anything to do with what we are talking about? You said you were not encouraging 14 year olds to do drugs. I say you are.

Try and stay on topic.

Geez, campbell, woodbuck is right when he said you need to be explained exerything.

Show me where I encourage kids to do drug?

Ask anybody who does mj or coke and they will tell you the highs are pleasurable. That's what I mean when i wrote : "And when you do, you will love it." When I wrote: Doing drugs such as marijuana and coke-cain is inevitable, i was making reference to the socity part that i post after that post.

[Fosco33]

Tank is a college kid - he seems to be focusing on the right things (getting a degree, maintaining a job/intership).

Focus on the right things???

IMO, Tank has an unhealthy obsession with always being right no matter how moronic his position. That, and justifying his counter productive behavior. His passion for higher learning seems to have a misguided focus on searching for better and better excuses - that's his focus. That, and doing the bare minimum required to get by. See his paper on Greenspan and his thread about how to loaf off as an intern for further evidence.

I always thought part of getting a college education was supposed to include questioning yourself and your beliefs. I see no willingness from Tank to consider anyone other than himself, unless that someone happens to parrot his goofy positions. All I see is a guy who whines that the world is mean and cruel, so please excuse him while he goes and gets high. His brand of Liberalism looks more like a convenient excuse than a deeply held ideology.

Now I think he still has time to get himself turned around. But he's not 18 anymore. He doesn't have forever.

You could very well be right. My point was there are countless kids who don't have the opp to turn it around - because they just get high, join a gang, go to prison, work some shitty fast food job, pop out babies, etc. Regardless of your impression of his motives for entering college, you've got to give him credit for being there. And, regardless, maybe Tank's a guy who puts up fronts (how to slack off at work, etc.) - but without ever really meeting him it's all conjecture.

[Scott Campbell]

Show me where I encourage kids to do drug?

You're in a tough spot on this one Tank. You can retract the blatently obvious statement and prove me right.

Or you can continue your silly dance and avoid just admitting you were wrong - proving me right about that too.

Tough call.

[Scott Campbell]

I am not encourging 14 years old to do drugs.

Doing drugs such as marijuana and coke-cain is inevitable. You will experience it one day, young man. And when you do, you will love it.