Michael Savage

[sooner6600]

Savge is ok in my book.
Book; Liberalism is a mental disorder
The enemy within
The political zoo.

He is publishing a new one and it outsells
Madam Pelosi's book.

Savge at late night reminds me of the one time tv
host Howard Payne

Come on Tex; this gug had the beef box.
What is his real name?

[texaspackerbacker]

A favorite thing for different varieties of conservative to call each other is NOT conservative. It all has to do with emphasis.

Some of us are strongly for American power and dominance; Some of us emphasize morality and social issues--opposing abortion, gay agenda, moving toward other forms of depravity; Some value personal freedom above all else--including security and morality; Some conservatives emphasize the economic aspect--and even there, there are two distinct sub-groups: those of us emphasizing tax cutting as a panacea for virtually every ill, and those who are more concerned with fiscal responsibility.

All of us see ourselves as the best examples and warriors in the most important aspect of the ideological battle. The fact is, though, we ALL are for and against pretty much the same things--just in different orders of importance.

Welcome back, Sooner. You should stop by more often. Like I said, I don't directly know that much about Savage. I stick with Rush and Hannity, though, for conservatism as a hole--even though some other "as a holes" are OK too.

[sooner6600]

Oh yah; the new book is Psycholigical Nudity.
It is a rifff from his canned opening program content.

Its such a pleasure to listed to him on my way to swab the
flush toilets at the casino in Thackerville.

Yep; Kohler and Bay West paper and Bemis toilet seats.
Gawd am I homesick.

[sooner6600]

Tex;l

Thanks for the nice note.

You are not the extreemest.

As Rush said in todays broadcast; the social enginerrs; the
anti american maxist left (the big O)are the extreemists!!!!!!

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Wonder if the big 0 is going to replace the stars with
little Lennin Heads on the new flag?

Thoughts anyone??????????????????

[Zool]

[mraynrand]

I like listening to Savage - in limited doses. I've said before he's like a cross between Howard Beale ("I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore!") and Jonathan Swift. Very caustic, approaches lunacy with some of his rants, but still very smart and witty.

He recently got canned from a number of stations for saying that autism was over-diagnosed and one of the reasons was that parents were being lazy. He had a similar take on medication for ADD and ADHD, calling the drugging of young boys 'child abuse.' Talking to psychiatrists who work with young boys being medicated, the fact is that Savage is right - boys are being over-medicated, and it's typically because they are discipline problems in school and the teachers are either overwhelmed, too lazy, or unable to provide other outlets/responses (recess canceled, for example, can't do basic discipline for fear of arrest, etc.), parents are overwhelmed and/or non-existent, or psychs are pill-pushers. So Savage gets things right, but his presentation earns him love/hate viewpoints.

Savage is a lot like Coulter - he has strong opinions, he rants (emotes), and sometimes he goes so far as to make himself a target - and once that happens, no one will listen to a rational argument about the subject - you just get angry emoting in return.

BTW, Ty, I agree on Miller. Was funny as hell once. Was even very funny at first on MNF - then he pulled back and stopped negatively critiquing players. The worst was Al Michaels trying to matchs quips - he just couldn't do it. Have never heard Miller on radio - he is so-so on appearances in O'Reilly (or as Savage calls him: "The Leprechaun").

[Harlan Huckleby]

And as for late night hosts, Craig Ferguson is by far the best one. The dude comes up with so much wit off the top of his head, he just out shines the other hosts. And this is coming from a huge Obrien fan.

I agree Ferguson is the most clever of the wee wee hour guys. I do get a little tired of his very long monologues. He is best when interacting with the guests.

[texaspackerbacker]

And as for late night hosts, Craig Ferguson is by far the best one. The dude comes up with so much wit off the top of his head, he just out shines the other hosts. And this is coming from a huge Obrien fan.

I agree Ferguson is the most clever of the wee wee hour guys. I do get a little tired of his very long monologues. He is best when interacting with the guests.

I'll take reruns of Walker Texas Ranger over any of them. This is not a rhetorical question. Is there even a hint of anything other than sick extreme leftist views and attitudes from any of them? The only one I recall seeing is Conan O'Brien, and he's about as far left as it gets.

[swede]

He recently got canned from a number of stations for saying that autism was over-diagnosed and one of the reasons was that parents were being lazy. He had a similar take on medication for ADD and ADHD, calling the drugging of young boys 'child abuse.' Talking to psychiatrists who work with young boys being medicated, the fact is that Savage is right - boys are being over-medicated, and it's typically because they are discipline problems in school and the teachers are either overwhelmed, too lazy, or unable to provide other outlets/responses (recess canceled, for example, can't do basic discipline for fear of arrest, etc.), parents are overwhelmed and/or non-existent, or psychs are pill-pushers. So Savage gets things right, but his presentation earns him love/hate viewpoints.

As Sir John Gielgud once said, "You may be right. On the other hand, go fuck yourself."

Teachers do not prescribe ADHD medication. Physicians do. You may find communities where, for whatever reason, physicians over-prescribe medication for ADHD. Mainstream media urban lore tells of places where 20% of the boys are on meds for ADHD. Please advise me if that's your hometown. It's not mine.

Keep in mind that the medication for ADHD is a mild stimulant. The stimulant, in a truly ADHD child, wakes up the part of the brain that is responsible for focus and impulse control. For some children, the change is nearly miraculous.

I have three boys with a diagnosis of ADHD. That's a lot. I only had one last year and none the year before.

One is the classic case: slight, blonde, bright, imaginative and unable to follow social rules or complete tasks. Because he suffered rather severe side effects from the medication his mother has taken him off them. I support her in this. It's her kid. She gave it a shot. It worked, but the child had headaches and stomachaches that broke her heart to have to see him bear. Lucky for him he's a bright kid. Lucky for him I know how to set him up for success within that odd little world. Unfortunately for the rest of the kids, his constant noise, motion, and violations of common societal rules make it tough on them. Their classroom is that much less efficient and pleasant.

A second boy probably has been misdiagnosed IMO. Remember that the diagnosis for ADHD amounts to a quiz given to the parent, the teacher, and the child. A profile that suggests hyperactivity, poor social skills, and a lack of focus may not be caused by ADHD at all. In this case, I think the child has some significant visual/perception/ motor/language issues that make it difficult to sort out his world. His mother has foregone medication for an herbal approach to the problem which is just as well. Medication can't solve ADHD symptoms in a child whose brain isn't underactive in region which seems to cause the associated problems.

The third boy is never on his meds because his mom, in outpatient treatment for meth addiction, had begun either using them or selling them. I communicated the problem to the physician. The physician told the mother the medication would be dispensed at school. The mother then withdrew consent. Apparently, if she can't have them, nobody can. The child went from a happy, productive boy a few weeks ago to one who lashes out and is made angry by an inability to control his own life.

I'd appreciate it if people would step back from this popular notion that ADHD does not exist or can't be controlled by psychostimulant therapy simply because it may happen to be true that it is occasionally diagnosed incorrectly. If your own direct experience involves a "lazy" teacher shoving a drug into a child so the teacher doesn't have to do any work I'd be fascinated by the story.

[LL2]

I actually heard the show on autism and thought it was pretty good. Savage was basically saying doctors are often too quick to label a kid autistic and put them on medicine. He said based on the questionnaire and observation sheet that pediatrician’s use even he would've been labeled autistic. I agreed with the many statements he made about doctors and medicine on that show. My wife and I personally do not, nor have we had or kids vaccinated. We believe that vaccines are harmful, and there is no reason kids should be given them. We are the most drugged up country in the world. We tell others about our position on vaccines and medicine, but recommend that people should do their own research. Our family doctor is great, as he provides medicine only if they are necessary and only until the symptom is taken care of.

Here's some good link on vaccines and medicine.

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/01/12/the-film-about-vaccines-you-must-see.aspx

Do a Google search on Dr. Nemec, Dr. Mercola, or even read Kevin Trudeau's books on natural cures. Dr. Nemec and Dr. Mercola are from the Chicago area. Some may now think I'm nutty, but far too many people do not do research on what the doctor gives them and think it's fine to take medicines for life. We also buy organic fruits and vegetables, buy all-natural cleaning products to help keep chemicals out of the house, and try to be environmentally conscious.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Trudeau?

Dude, you have officially become a wackadoodle.

which book should i be reading of his..the natural cures or his debt solutions.

I always take advice from a convicted felon..on charges of fraud and larceny. Someone who the FTC has sued and won numerous times. A guy who currently is prohibited by the courts from selling or promoting any product or service..which he skirts by selling books.

Those interested...stossel exposes this hack:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YN5ihrECJms

or Salon

http://dir.salon.com/story/books/feature/2005/07/29/trudeau/

And, if you haven't immunized your kids....well, the herd needs thinning.

[mraynrand]

He recently got canned from a number of stations for saying that autism was over-diagnosed and one of the reasons was that parents were being lazy. He had a similar take on medication for ADD and ADHD, calling the drugging of young boys 'child abuse.' Talking to psychiatrists who work with young boys being medicated, the fact is that Savage is right - boys are being over-medicated, and it's typically because they are discipline problems in school and the teachers are either overwhelmed, too lazy, or unable to provide other outlets/responses (recess canceled, for example, can't do basic discipline for fear of arrest, etc.), parents are overwhelmed and/or non-existent, or psychs are pill-pushers. So Savage gets things right, but his presentation earns him love/hate viewpoints.

As Sir John Gielgud once said, "You may be right. On the other hand, go fuck yourself."

I wrote out a long response detailing several items you raised, then I saw the above. If you actually want a civil response, then write in a civil manner. It seems to have been your way overwhelmingly in the past. Otherwise, you can take Gielgud's advice.

[TheCheese]

And as for late night hosts, Craig Ferguson is by far the best one. The dude comes up with so much wit off the top of his head, he just out shines the other hosts. And this is coming from a huge Obrien fan.

I agree Ferguson is the most clever of the wee wee hour guys. I do get a little tired of his very long monologues. He is best when interacting with the guests.

I'll take reruns of Walker Texas Ranger over any of them. This is not a rhetorical question. Is there even a hint of anything other than sick extreme leftist views and attitudes from any of them? The only one I recall seeing is Conan O'Brien, and he's about as far left as it gets.

Really? I have not heard Conan say anything politically on or off the air. What exactly did he say? If he is a huge lefty that's a shame because he seemed to have more common sense than that.

As for the other late night hosts, Jay Leno is a closet conservative. Hes very coy in hiding it but he has admitted it before in the past. Not a huge right wing conservative, but a conservative non the less.

[cpk1994]

I just dont' find him funny. I use to worship him, was a huge fan...and was in his corner when he got MNF...and still thought he deserved a longer shot.

Stewart: I think he is funny. He goes after both sides...and he hasn't been unafraid to have Newt, Mac, etc. on the show. But, i think his correspondents make the show.

Colbert: Clone? Of course he is...he is satirizing O'reilly. AFter awhile..the joke kinda wears thin....as does O'reilly.

Leno: I've always thought he was funny, though i was more of letterman guy...and am firmly in the O'brien camp.

I agree about Leno and O'Brien. Its sad that Jay is retiring soon, but great that Conan will be getting the promotion and take his place.

[texaspackerbacker]

And as for late night hosts, Craig Ferguson is by far the best one. The dude comes up with so much wit off the top of his head, he just out shines the other hosts. And this is coming from a huge Obrien fan.

I agree Ferguson is the most clever of the wee wee hour guys. I do get a little tired of his very long monologues. He is best when interacting with the guests.

I'll take reruns of Walker Texas Ranger over any of them. This is not a rhetorical question. Is there even a hint of anything other than sick extreme leftist views and attitudes from any of them? The only one I recall seeing is Conan O'Brien, and he's about as far left as it gets.

Really? I have not heard Conan say anything politically on or off the air. What exactly did he say? If he is a huge lefty that's a shame because he seemed to have more common sense than that.

As for the other late night hosts, Jay Leno is a closet conservative. Hes very coy in hiding it but he has admitted it before in the past. Not a huge right wing conservative, but a conservative non the less.

I agree with you about Leno. He, at worst, is fair and balanced, and maybe even one of the good guys.

As for Conan O'Brien, I recall his show being saturated with Bush-hate and their lame Bush-is-stupid crap. Beyond that, it's just his wimpiness and his disgusting eastern accent and tone. He impresses me as pure scum, but that's just my opinion.