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  • #31
    I love when liberals complain about education spending.

    Since the early 1970s, inflation-adjusted federal spending per pupil has doubled. Over that period, student performance has not markedly improved. Under Bush, federal education spending has increased by 40%.

    But the liberals have been using the same tired rhetoric for several decades. Let's spend more. Let's criticize any politician who has the guts to say what we are doing just isn't working.

    Another issue where the Democrat's position sounds good to voters. Everybody is for spending more on our education, right? Even though that inevitably means taxes go up even further. It isn't working.
    "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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    • #32
      Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
      I love when liberals complain about education spending.

      Since the early 1970s, inflation-adjusted federal spending per pupil has doubled. Over that period, student performance has not markedly improved. Under Bush, federal education spending has increased by 40%.

      But the liberals have been using the same tired rhetoric for several decades. Let's spend more. Let's criticize any politician who has the guts to say what we are doing just isn't working.

      Another issue where the Democrat's position sounds good to voters. Everybody is for spending more on our education, right? Even though that inevitably means taxes go up even further. It isn't working.
      Don't let the facts get in the way....change the premise.

      After lunch the players lounged about the hotel patio watching the surf fling white plumes high against the darkening sky. Clouds were piling up in the west… Vince Lombardi frowned.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
        I love when liberals complain about education spending.

        Since the early 1970s, inflation-adjusted federal spending per pupil has doubled. Over that period, student performance has not markedly improved. Under Bush, federal education spending has increased by 40%.

        But the liberals have been using the same tired rhetoric for several decades. Let's spend more. Let's criticize any politician who has the guts to say what we are doing just isn't working.

        Another issue where the Democrat's position sounds good to voters. Everybody is for spending more on our education, right? Even though that inevitably means taxes go up even further. It isn't working.
        I love it when conservs merely post Heritage foundation rhetoric.

        "You can't call yourself a think tank if all your ideas are stupid."

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        • #34
          The money supplied to schools is mis-managed.

          I dealt professionally with many teachers that want to teach but are hamstrung by idiotic administrators (i.e., those who couldn't cut it teaching) that muck up the system with all sorts of politically correct initiatives or nonsensical guidelines that do not promote fundamental or technical skills necessary to succeed in the workplace.

          In Wisconsin there appears to be a lack of common sense on how to allocate funds. Look at vouchers and the furor raised over them by the teacher's unions in Milwaukee.

          MPS schools in general have only a 46% graduation rate - one of the worst in the nation.

          While those attending voucher schools have a higher graduation rate.
          -digital dean

          No "TROLLS" allowed!

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
            I love it when conservs merely post Heritage foundation rhetoric.

            "You can't call yourself a think tank if all your ideas are stupid."
            Do you have a point?
            "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
              Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
              I love when liberals complain about education spending.

              Since the early 1970s, inflation-adjusted federal spending per pupil has doubled. Over that period, student performance has not markedly improved. Under Bush, federal education spending has increased by 40%.

              But the liberals have been using the same tired rhetoric for several decades. Let's spend more. Let's criticize any politician who has the guts to say what we are doing just isn't working.

              Another issue where the Democrat's position sounds good to voters. Everybody is for spending more on our education, right? Even though that inevitably means taxes go up even further. It isn't working.
              I love it when conservs merely post Heritage foundation rhetoric.

              "You can't call yourself a think tank if all your ideas are stupid."
              An ad hominem argument, also known as argumentum ad hominem (Latin: "argument to the man", "argument against the man") consists of replying to an argument or factual claim by attacking or appealing to a characteristic or belief of the person making the argument or claim, rather than by addressing the substance of the argument or producing evidence against the claim. The process of proving or disproving the claim is thereby subverted, and the argumentum ad hominem works to change the subject.
              After lunch the players lounged about the hotel patio watching the surf fling white plumes high against the darkening sky. Clouds were piling up in the west… Vince Lombardi frowned.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                I love it when conservs merely post Heritage foundation rhetoric.

                "You can't call yourself a think tank if all your ideas are stupid."
                Do you have a point?
                Do i ever?

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                  Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                  Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                  I love it when conservs merely post Heritage foundation rhetoric.

                  "You can't call yourself a think tank if all your ideas are stupid."
                  Do you have a point?
                  Do i ever?
                  QFT
                  After lunch the players lounged about the hotel patio watching the surf fling white plumes high against the darkening sky. Clouds were piling up in the west… Vince Lombardi frowned.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by HowardRoark
                    Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                    Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                    Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                    I love it when conservs merely post Heritage foundation rhetoric.

                    "You can't call yourself a think tank if all your ideas are stupid."
                    Do you have a point?
                    Do i ever?
                    QFT
                    You have proven my point. Thanx!

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                    • #40
                      Regarding special needs....

                      It comes to the same areas regarding any issue. One doesn't think or do as much about a topic unless they know, are related to or work with people that have a specific medical condition/disease or handicap.

                      I have an in-law that's a special needs person. I have a loved one with MS and another with the onset of Alzheimer's. I did not think as much about these issues until they've affected me.

                      To say Sarah Palin is a heartless idealogue that stamps out all redeeming social necessities is being disingenuous at best. I've done a cursory look at her record as governor.

                      Her record shows:
                      -She has helped create an online training program for developing marketable skills.
                      -Used technology to help improve care of those in remote/rural Alaskan towns.
                      -Any check over $1,000 written by Alaskan gov't is posted on the Div. of Finance website.

                      So there are two sides to every coin.....

                      I'm glad she's disagreeing with McCain on ANWR. She is still trying to convince McCain about drilling there. I want a Veep that isn't a robot for the party's/candidates talking points.
                      -digital dean

                      No "TROLLS" allowed!

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by packinpatland
                        Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                        I'd say that if a "special needs" Mom thought the state spent too much on special needs, then they probably were.

                        You're sourcing Keith Olberman now? Seriously?
                        She wasn't a special needs mom when she reduced the budget for the Special Olympics. She's been a special needs mom for a nano second....a few months.......let's discuss this in 20+ years.

                        I find Keith Olberman highly 'entertaining'...........much like Bill O'Reilly.
                        You're the one!!
                        Lombardi told Starr to "Run it, and let's get the hell out of here!" - 'Ice Bowl' December 31, 1967

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by sheepshead
                          Originally posted by packinpatland
                          Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                          I'd say that if a "special needs" Mom thought the state spent too much on special needs, then they probably were.

                          You're sourcing Keith Olberman now? Seriously?
                          She wasn't a special needs mom when she reduced the budget for the Special Olympics. She's been a special needs mom for a nano second....a few months.......let's discuss this in 20+ years.

                          I find Keith Olberman highly 'entertaining'...........much like Bill O'Reilly.
                          You're the one!!
                          Not all together sure how you mean that......

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by digitaldean

                            I'm glad she's disagreeing with McCain on ANWR. She is still trying to convince McCain about drilling there. I want a Veep that isn't a robot for the party's/candidates talking points.
                            McCain has already changed his tune and is now Pro-drilling in ANWR. He has been using it to beat Obama over the head with.

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                            • #44
                              They're playing a lot of commercials around here (we have a lot of private labs and NIH) saying the McCain is all for stem cell research. I wonder how long stem cell research would continue if anything ever happened to him?
                              "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by MJZiggy
                                They're playing a lot of commercials around here (we have a lot of private labs and NIH) saying the McCain is all for stem cell research. I wonder how long stem cell research would continue if anything ever happened to him?
                                Pretty sure he saw that episode of southpark where christopher reeves sucked the stem cells out of embryos so he could walk. Mccain is thinking he can beat back the grim reaper if he can suck some stem cells.
                                The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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