Palin vs. Reagan - The Problem

[BallHawk]

Please don't tell me that. Where else will i get my daily dose of liberal bashing and Sean Hannity's relentless objectivity?

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[texaspackerbacker]

Palin is gonna stick it to the "Gaff Man". Ol' Joe Biden, on Thursday night, ideally to such an extent that even the leftist mainstream media can't deny it, but certainly to an extent that there will be no doubt in the minds of the American people.

That is a bold claim. I hope your right.

OK, I plead guilty to wishful thinking.

Past performance usually IS, however, a good indicator, and Sarah Palin has been all aces so far, as far as being in tune and ringing true with the huge majority of Americans' viewpoints.

Biden, on the other hand, has flubbed and stumbled and made gaff after gaff after gaff. The leftist media has done its best to ignore and downplay them, but he has made the gaffs just the same.

BTW, there's one of those weird emails going around--probably nothing to it, but claiming that on or about October 5--several days after the debate. Biden will bow out--for health reasons, his aneurysm or something, and Obama will get Hillary as his running mate. Wouldn't THAT be an interesting development!

[mraynrand]

Pacfan and Tyrone,

It seems like you agree with me. Palin has the ideology that the party appears to want, she's symbolic of the kind of liberated woman the conservative movement can identify with. and she's likely a reasonably bright and talented politician (at least in comparison to the average Washington pol). What she isn't is experienced - she not only doesn't have seasoning on international issues (and probably not national economic issues) , but she's not seasoned in the art of political-speak. She doesn't know how to get out of traps, she doesn't know how to say nothing without looking like she's saying nothing, etc (In other words she can't bullshit like the good pols). And most importantly, even though she has a core ideology that she firnly believes in - that is parallel with the Reagan message - she isn't polished and concise verbalizing it. That's why Giuliani was out there instead. Plus, you have to admit - if you're honest - that the press is trying to make her look foolish with gotcha questions.

I want her to succeed on Thursday - and the election really depends on it given that she'll be up right when the financial crisis will be at it's zenith - but I suspect she will look bad.

[sheepshead]

By the way you know what change means? ( some will find it offensive but it made me laugh)

Come Help A Negro Get Elected

Go back under the rock you crawled out of, you Flatlander hick.

Charming.

[hoosier]

Pacfan and Tyrone,

It seems like you agree with me. Palin has the ideology that the party appears to want, she's symbolic of the kind of liberated woman the conservative movement can identify with. and she's likely a reasonably bright and talented politician (at least in comparison to the average Washington pol). What she isn't is experienced - she not only doesn't have seasoning on international issues (and probably not national economic issues) , but she's not seasoned in the art of political-speak. She doesn't know how to get out of traps, she doesn't know how to say nothing without looking like she's saying nothing, etc (In other words she can't bullshit like the good pols). And most importantly, even though she has a core ideology that she firnly believes in - that is parallel with the Reagan message - she isn't polished and concise verbalizing it. That's why Giuliani was out there instead. Plus, you have to admit - if you're honest - that the press is trying to make her look foolish with gotcha questions.

I want her to succeed on Thursday - and the election really depends on it given that she'll be up right when the financial crisis will be at it's zenith - but I suspect she will look bad.

She may look bad, but I also wonder if expectations for her are set so low by now that, even looking bad, she still manages to come across as having stood toe to toe with Biden. I mean, it can't get much worse than the Katie Couric interview, can it?

[Kiwon]

By the way you know what change means? ( some will find it offensive but it made me laugh)

Come Help A Negro Get Elected

Go back under the rock you crawled out of, you Flatlander hick.

You must have not gotten the memo, sheepshead. Only liberals get to use race in humor. Hoosier doesn't have a problem comparing a caucasian (George Bush) to monkeys in a photo collage but it violates his little moral compass to do the same collage using Barack Obama.

Obvious hypocrisy but par for the course.

[Cheesehead Craig]

mraymond,
Palin's idealogy I'm not going to argue about. She seems very well aligned with what the Republicans like, if she wasn't she wouldn't be on the ticket.

She is performing very poorly, IMO in interviews and in scenarios where it's not scripted. This latest catchphrase of "gotcha journalism" is trying to deflect the blame that she's simply not that good right now. It's not like this is something new with journalists. If she can't handle Katie Couric, what's going to happen when foreign leaders she meets throw curveballs at her?

Having to have McCain there for a followup interview with Couric gave the distinct impression that it was "dad" protecting his defenseless little girl. The GOP does seem to be shielding her. Hell, McCain wanted to cancel the VP debate completely. How long will this go on?

Look, I think she's a great story and I had hoped she would do better, I really did. But it seems to me that she is flailing right now. She got thrown into the deep end of the pool before she was ready. Someday she may be the next great GOP candidate, but right now it's not her time.

[MadScientist]

Palin is not Reagan. She is the intellect and ideology of George W Bush combined with the soothing voice of Hillary Clinton.

[sheepshead]

By the way you know what change means? ( some will find it offensive but it made me laugh)

Come Help A Negro Get Elected

Go back under the rock you crawled out of, you Flatlander hick.

You must have not gotten the memo, sheepshead. Only liberals get to use race in humor. Hoosier doesn't have a problem comparing a caucasian (George Bush) to monkeys in a photo collage but it violates his little moral compass to do the same collage using Barack Obama.

Obvious hypocrisy but par for the course.

Ahhh, thanks for the heads up, I'll proceed accordingly.

[sheepshead]

mraymond,
Palin's idealogy I'm not going to argue about. She seems very well aligned with what the Republicans like, if she wasn't she wouldn't be on the ticket.

She is performing very poorly, IMO in interviews and in scenarios where it's not scripted. This latest catchphrase of "gotcha journalism" is trying to deflect the blame that she's simply not that good right now. It's not like this is something new with journalists. If she can't handle Katie Couric, what's going to happen when foreign leaders she meets throw curveballs at her?

Having to have McCain there for a followup interview with Couric gave the distinct impression that it was "dad" protecting his defenseless little girl. The GOP does seem to be shielding her. Hell, McCain wanted to cancel the VP debate completely. How long will this go on?

Look, I think she's a great story and I had hoped she would do better, I really did. But it seems to me that she is flailing right now. She got thrown into the deep end of the pool before she was ready. Someday she may be the next great GOP candidate, but right now it's not her time.

Anyone that uses Katie (K A T I E) Couric as your touchstone to assist them in determining who should get the second most important job in the world (on paper anyway, sec of state is arguably more important) probably should sleep in on the 4th.

[packinpatland]

mraymond,
Palin's idealogy I'm not going to argue about. She seems very well aligned with what the Republicans like, if she wasn't she wouldn't be on the ticket.

She is performing very poorly, IMO in interviews and in scenarios where it's not scripted. This latest catchphrase of "gotcha journalism" is trying to deflect the blame that she's simply not that good right now. It's not like this is something new with journalists. If she can't handle Katie Couric, what's going to happen when foreign leaders she meets throw curveballs at her?

Having to have McCain there for a followup interview with Couric gave the distinct impression that it was "dad" protecting his defenseless little girl. The GOP does seem to be shielding her. Hell, McCain wanted to cancel the VP debate completely. How long will this go on?

Look, I think she's a great story and I had hoped she would do better, I really did. But it seems to me that she is flailing right now. She got thrown into the deep end of the pool before she was ready. Someday she may be the next great GOP candidate, but right now it's not her time.

Anyone that uses Katie (K A T I E) Couric as your touchstone to assist them in determining who should get the second most important job in the world (on paper anyway, sec of state is arguably more important) probably should sleep in on the 4th.

What difference does it make who asks the questions? The answers are what count. This has nothing to do with patriotism........if that's what you were referring to about 'sleeping in on the 4th'.

[sheepshead]

okay, no I'll spell it out. Couric is an idiot. Do you think Al Gore could recite everyone of Bill Clinton's accomplishments as governor? Did anyone ask? No to both questions. This gotcha crap comes from a desperate news anchor who is clearly in over her head. They did the same thing to GWB and the same thing to Reagan. Both guys served eight years.

The 4th...is election day.

[LL2]

Palin is not Reagan. She is the intellect and ideology of George W Bush combined with the soothing voice of Hillary Clinton.

Hillary Clinton has a soothing voice?

[Cheesehead Craig]

mraymond,
Palin's idealogy I'm not going to argue about. She seems very well aligned with what the Republicans like, if she wasn't she wouldn't be on the ticket.

She is performing very poorly, IMO in interviews and in scenarios where it's not scripted. This latest catchphrase of "gotcha journalism" is trying to deflect the blame that she's simply not that good right now. It's not like this is something new with journalists. If she can't handle Katie Couric, what's going to happen when foreign leaders she meets throw curveballs at her?

Having to have McCain there for a followup interview with Couric gave the distinct impression that it was "dad" protecting his defenseless little girl. The GOP does seem to be shielding her. Hell, McCain wanted to cancel the VP debate completely. How long will this go on?

Look, I think she's a great story and I had hoped she would do better, I really did. But it seems to me that she is flailing right now. She got thrown into the deep end of the pool before she was ready. Someday she may be the next great GOP candidate, but right now it's not her time.

Anyone that uses Katie (K A T I E) Couric as your touchstone to assist them in determining who should get the second most important job in the world (on paper anyway, sec of state is arguably more important) probably should sleep in on the 4th.

Answer is bolded in my original quote in response to your comment.

[hoosier]

Palin is not Reagan. She is the intellect and ideology of George W Bush combined with the soothing voice of Hillary Clinton.

Hillary Clinton has a soothing voice?