Can America get beyond racism?

[Fosco33]

Blacks historically vote 90% democrat - the fact that it's 95% this election doesn't concern me as much as an entire race voting for the party that promises them the most money...

Loose fiscal policy will be downfall of our society.

apathy, dependence, bondage...

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Funny how it's always the liberals who defend homosexuality and usually the conservatives who oppose it. Why do you suppose that is?

I don't know. Prolly the same reason they defend all race, color and creed.

I think conservatives oppose it as a way to hide their true nature: Newt with an affair, Foley with little boys, some guy with a wide stance, Fossela with a child out of wed lock, from cambell's neck of the woods..daniel thompson..arrested for sex acts with a 14 year old and Balfour elected to the Republican State Central Committee in 2007 while awaiting trial on 4 felony accounts, Bob Allen's fear of black people causing him to offer oral to an undercover officer, John Bryan who committed suicide during investigation of molesting three girls, Donald Fleischman, Brown County, Wi... charged with two counts of child enticement, two counts of contributing to the delinquency of a child and a single charge of exposing himself to a child, David Vittner, junior Senator from Louisiana, became one of the few high-profile politicians to be implicated as a client of "D.C. Madam"

Louis Beres, chairman of the Christian Coalition of Oregon. 3 of his family members accuse him of molesting them when they were pre-teens. In August 06, Beres confessed.

Ted Haggard, was fired as pastor of the New Life Church and resigned from his position as president of the National Association of Evangelicals in November 2006 after a former male prostitute alleged they had a cash-for-sex relationship.

Jeffrey Ray Nielsen, Christian conservative activist and lawyer with close ties to Republican Congressman Dana Rohrabacher and Scott Baugh, head of the Orange County Republican Party, was arrested for having sex with a 14-year old boy.

Jeffrey Patti, Republican Committee Chairman, was arrested for distributing what experts call "some of the most offensive material in the child pornography world" - a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.

Dr. W. David Hager Bush appointee, member of Focus on the Family's Physician Resource Council, player in movement to ban the morning-after-pill. Had an adulterous affair, before divorcing his wife he sexually abused her, including sodomizing her in her sleep.

Neal Horsley has called for the arrest of all homosexuals. During an interview with Alan Colmes on the Fox News Radio's The Alan Colmes Show, he admitted to having engaged in sex with a mule at age 11. "When you grow up on a farm in Georgia, your first girlfriend is a mule," he said. He then credited Jesus with forgiving and cleansing him of his "sin."

Paul Crouch Televangelist, Former President of Trinity Broadcasting Network (TBN). Paid $425,000 in hush money in an attempt to cover up a gay affair.

Jeff Gannon, partisan blogger with no journalism credentials and a fake name who got invited to Bush's Press conferences. Is also a pimp and a gay prostitute.

Ed Schrock, two-term republican congressman, with a 92% approval rating from the Christian Coalition. Cosponsor of the Federal Marriage Amendment, consistently opposed gay rights. Married, with wife and kids. Withdrew his candidacy for a third term after tapes of him soliciting for gay sex were circulated.

Should i go on?

I think the pattern you see there is one of "The lady doth protest too much, methinks." I am always pretty suspicious of the really loud, in your face, frothing at the mouth sexual prudes. But I think it's moronic to suggest that conservatives in general use it to 'hide their true nature.' That's pretty much a Tyism.

You can come out of the closet.

[HowardRoark]

What 'qualifies' you as a Christian can get pretty convoluted by society - whether it be Catholics who are pro-choice, 'pro-war' Christians, sinners who believe, etc. I suggest reading Luke chapter 23, beginning with the 39th verse to get a straightforward idea of what a Christian actually must be, to be a Christian.

I have no idea whether Obama is or is not a true Christian. The way he's affiliated himself with certain churches for political expediency and then abandoned them for the same reason, saying he will not join a church until after the election strikes me as disingenuous and fishy. But that's meaningless. What he believes in his mind is all that matters as far as his soul is concerned, and that's between him and God.

As a politician, all I want to know is how his policies will impact the free practice of religion in the United States, and how his religious views will affect his policies. Based on his actions, I don't see him as being all that good for people of faith.

Good stuff...in fact we don't really do much at all to be a Christian, it's pretty much what Christ did.

[retailguy]

What 'qualifies' you as a Christian can get pretty convoluted by society - whether it be Catholics who are pro-choice, 'pro-war' Christians, sinners who believe, etc. I suggest reading Luke chapter 23, beginning with the 39th verse to get a straightforward idea of what a Christian actually must be, to be a Christian.

I have no idea whether Obama is or is not a true Christian. The way he's affiliated himself with certain churches for political expediency and then abandoned them for the same reason, saying he will not join a church until after the election strikes me as disingenuous and fishy. But that's meaningless. What he believes in his mind is all that matters as far as his soul is concerned, and that's between him and God.

As a politician, all I want to know is how his policies will impact the free practice of religion in the United States, and how his religious views will affect his policies. Based on his actions, I don't see him as being all that good for people of faith.

Good stuff...in fact we don't really do much at all to be a Christian, it's pretty much what Christ did.

I haven't done anything, but, take advantage of the free gift of grace.

[texaspackerbacker]

Blacks historically vote 90% democrat - the fact that it's 95% this election doesn't concern me as much as an entire race voting for the party that promises them the most money...

Loose fiscal policy will be downfall of our society.

apathy, dependence, bondage...

Which race did you have in mind?

What you are describing is LIBERALISM, and that dirty word is sickly pervasive across all racial lines.

As somebody stated in a post above, though, one particular race votes that way a consistent 90% of the time and 95% this time.

BTW, if by "loose fiscal policy", you mean "deficit spending", a big No Way to that as the downfall of society. Check out the writings of John Maynard Keynes.

[Partial]

Rascism towards non-caucasians is rare these days.

People of other races get into great schools they aren't qualified for just to meet quotas. Anna went to college at Madison with a girl who in freshman honors english could not write a paragraph. This, at one of the midwest's best schools, when plenty of much more qualified people get denied.

They get jobs to fill quotas as well. See affirmative action.

There is a big difference from not liking or wanting to affiliate with someone when they're a different race, and not liking or wanting to affiliate with someone BECAUSE they're a different race. HUGE difference, and quite frankly I am fed up with this being misconstrued as racism.

The only racism I see is towards me, the suburban white middle class person. Racism towards non-caucasians is something that is more of an excuse and a cop-out in my opinion. Sure, there are a few bad apples here and there. But 1% doesn't ruin the batch.

funny story.. At work the other day, I was talking about poor people and trickle up economics, and joe gangster from the hood. Somebody called me racist. I had never mentioned anything about race. I went and told him that maybe he has some pent up racial stereotypes, because I had not mentioned anything at all pertaining to the color of ones skin. That shut him up right quick.

[texaspackerbacker]

Well, we have the latest sterling example of NOT getting beyond racism.

A well known black guy endorsed the BLACK candidate, clearly BECAUSE The One he endorsed is BLACK--in spite of the fact that the black guy he endorsed is on the opposite side of practically every issue, especially the important ones, security, defense, and the economy.

In light of this BLATANT RACISM, could anybody possibly whine and rant against a logical and very justified BACKLASH against this racist act and the candidate it benefits?

There are far better reasons to oppose Obama than anything racial. The point is, though, the piece of crap stands a strong chance of being elected BECAUSE of racism--the 10-12% swing resulting from 90-95% of a 12-14% minority voting for him. And if that happens, the whole country runs a strong risk of losing thousands, even millions of people to terrorist hits as well as the wonderful life of freedom and prosperity we all have--which could all be gone if the terrorist hits were bad enough.

[arcilite]

I'm white and I'm going to vote for Obama.

Guess I am racist too.

[Joemailman]

Well, we have the latest sterling example of NOT getting beyond racism.

A well known black guy endorsed the BLACK candidate, clearly BECAUSE The One he endorsed is BLACK--in spite of the fact that the black guy he endorsed is on the opposite side of practically every issue, especially the important ones, security, defense, and the economy.

In light of this BLATANT RACISM, could anybody possibly whine and rant against a logical and very justified BACKLASH against this racist act and the candidate it benefits?

There are far better reasons to oppose Obama than anything racial. The point is, though, the piece of crap stands a strong chance of being elected BECAUSE of racism--the 10-12% swing resulting from 90-95% of a 12-14% minority voting for him. And if that happens, the whole country runs a strong risk of losing thousands, even millions of people to terrorist hits as well as the wonderful life of freedom and prosperity we all have--which could all be gone if the terrorist hits were bad enough.

So Colin Powell, one of the most respected men in America, is a racist because he endorses Obama? Gosh, why would anyone think your views are extremist, and not just normal Americanism?

[bobblehead]

I'm white and I'm going to vote for Obama.

Guess I am racist too.

nope..just foolish.

[Zool]

I'm white and I'm going to vote for Obama.

Guess I am racist too.

nope..just foolish.

Name caller

[hoosier]

Not extremist, not foolish, just irrelevant.

[bobblehead]

I'm white and I'm going to vote for Obama.

Guess I am racist too.

nope..just foolish.

Name caller

Sorry, I couldn't come up with a better response to such a foolish post.

[3irty1]

For every black American who will vote for Obama just because he is black there has to be at least one white American who will vote against Obama because he is black. Racism might not be prominent or violent as in the past but in the privacy of the voting booth it is going to come out. Sad? Maybe but I'm not sure you can ask for more from the masses.

[sheepshead]

Blacks historically vote 90% democrat - the fact that it's 95% this election doesn't concern me as much as an entire race voting for the party that promises them the most money...

Loose fiscal policy will be downfall of our society.

apathy, dependence, bondage...

This is a very good point. Reagan would have given his right arm for 10%-he never got it.