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  • #16
    You give me a bad time for reading MSNBC, CNN, or CBS and you cite Ann Coulter?

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    • #17
      Originally posted by sheepshead
      Originally posted by hoosier
      The so called "Bradley effect" is both overrated and dated, my friend. Responses by white voters when asked about black candidates can be skewed, but not nearly as much and not nearly as frequently as the "Bradley effect" purports. That theory also fails to take into account traditional Repubs who might be unwilling to admit to wanting to vote for a Dem or a black candidate.

      Polls can certainly be wrong, as the 2000 elections showed. But race is only one factor among many, and probably not as significant today as it was in the early 1980s.
      how in the HELL would you know that??The first brother on the ticket and the first chick on the GOP side and YOU know how to read these polls? Gimme a break.

      BTW every poll is wrong and every poll favors the dems in the last 40 years. Every one. If he aint winnin' by a bunch in every poll, he aint winnin'

      My Friend.
      "There is little doubt Obama is losing some votes due to his race; a recent Associated Press survey suggested that as many as 6 percent of the electorate may be voting against Obama because he is black. But that's not what the Bradley effect is about. As long as those prejudiced voters are telling pollsters that they're going to vote for McCain, their sentiments will be reflected accurately in the polling. The Bradley effect emerges when voters tell pollsters one thing and then do another at the ballot booth.

      So the question is why, if a voter does not intend to vote for Obama, would he or she feel compelled to lie about it? There are perfectly legitimate reasons not to vote for Obama; a voter who wanted to vote against him because of his race would have little trouble rationalizing his vote. If a voter felt compelled to lie to a pollster, he might tell them that he was voting against Obama because of his inexperience or his liberal politics—when, in fact, he was voting against him because of his race. But the pollster would still tally the vote correctly in the McCain column. By contrast, in cases where the Bradley effect existed, including Bradley's race itself, the black candidate was as much or more experienced than the white opponent. So voters found it harder to excuse their racism and may have misstated their voting intention to pollsters as a result." Took that from somewhere else. But its entirely right.


      Bradley effect won't have as much effect as you people think. But the polls are still skewered for both sides. We won't really know until Nov 4th.
      I am better looking than you.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by packinpatland
        You give me a bad time for reading MSNBC, CNN, or CBS and you cite Ann Coulter?
        who else is going to discuss this? Keith Olbermann?
        Lombardi told Starr to "Run it, and let's get the hell out of here!" - 'Ice Bowl' December 31, 1967

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        • #19
          You always have Rush

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          • #20
            Are you married?


            Lombardi told Starr to "Run it, and let's get the hell out of here!" - 'Ice Bowl' December 31, 1967

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            • #21
              Originally posted by sheepshead
              Are you married?


              I can't imagine what that has to do with anything.

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              • #22
                flirting actually
                Lombardi told Starr to "Run it, and let's get the hell out of here!" - 'Ice Bowl' December 31, 1967

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                • #23
                  I'm probably old enough to be your mother.........or grandmother

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by packinpatland
                    I'm probably old enough to be your mother.........or grandmother
                    Cougar!!!!

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                      Originally posted by packinpatland
                      I'm probably old enough to be your mother.........or grandmother
                      Cougar!!!!
                      Viper!!!!!!
                      "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by mraynrand
                        Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                        Originally posted by packinpatland
                        I'm probably old enough to be your mother.........or grandmother
                        Cougar!!!!
                        Viper!!!!!!
                        Maverick!!!!!
                        After lunch the players lounged about the hotel patio watching the surf fling white plumes high against the darkening sky. Clouds were piling up in the west… Vince Lombardi frowned.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by packinpatland
                          I'm probably old enough to be your mother.........or grandmother
                          Try Me!
                          Lombardi told Starr to "Run it, and let's get the hell out of here!" - 'Ice Bowl' December 31, 1967

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                          • #28
                            Dude, she's happily married to a wonderful man. You don't measure up. Time to give up and move on.
                            "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by MJZiggy
                              Dude, she's happily married to a wonderful man. [b]You don't measure up.[\b] Time to give up and move on.
                              How would you know?
                              "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                              • #30
                                I read ann, but this thread is about polls...post her article where she coyly titled it...87% of people say they would never lie to a pollster.

                                that said, dems poll better than they actually perform usually (I won't get into why). A national black might poll a bit better yet. All that factored in, a pisspoor exuse for a republican isn't going to win a national election. This will be a landslide obama win with mccain losing almost every swing state. He'll win texas, and a lot of the bible belt, but he won't win any of those that bush won...ohio, florida, pennsylvania...ect. If bush were running again he wouldn't win them either.
                                The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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