New Poll

[Joemailman]

I suspect Bobblehead has it about right. Because of Bush's unpopularity, this is a tough year to be a Republican. In my humble opinion, McCain's inability to establish how his Presidency will be different than Bush is an albatross around his neck. Obama has done a good job of tying McCain to Bush and won't let go. If I were a Republican, I'd be wishing Romney had been the nominee. His success running a business might be reassuring to some people, and it wouldn't be as easy to tie him to Bush.

[texaspackerbacker]

The so called "Bradley effect" is both overrated and dated, my friend. Responses by white voters when asked about black candidates can be skewed, but not nearly as much and not nearly as frequently as the "Bradley effect" purports. That theory also fails to take into account traditional Repubs who might be unwilling to admit to wanting to vote for a Dem or a black candidate.

Polls can certainly be wrong, as the 2000 elections showed. But race is only one factor among many, and probably not as significant today as it was in the early 1980s.

The Bradley Effect is outdated ........ just like racism is outdated.

And racism gets more and more alive and well with every dirty deal that comes along to inflict the ultra-leftist black candidate on us. The ignominious example of Powell selling out his lifetime of serving America for the cause of black racism is the prime recent example. I'm confident that the well-justified backlash will greatly outweigh the benefit "that one" realizes from Powell's act of treachery.

As for the polls, I'm not optimistic at this point, but I'm not particularly pessimistic either. I concur with Sheepshead's estimate of 6% error in favor of the black candidate due to the Bradley Effect. Harder to calculate, however, is the "Palin Effect", which is a "reverse Bradley-type effect" where women would be very unlikely to tell pollsters they are voting for the ticket with a female VP candidate, but they are likely to do so, just the same.

Another bad day for the stock market, though, combined with the leftist mainstream media's highly successful propaganda promoting the economy as the #1 issue, along with its equally successful sales job that the black candidate--whose party was mostly responsible for the Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac scandal that is the root of the contrived economic crisis, enhance Obama's chances of getting to the point of having a true lead, regardless of any polling flaws.

The bad guys have really played the game of politics a lot better than the good guys this time around. America will be damn lucky to dodge the huge bullet coming its way--the inflicting of an Obama presidency on us--with all the horrendous consequences of that--terrorist hits at the top of the list.

It ain't looking good right now. I'd give McCain about an equal chance to win as the Packers have of going to the Super Bowl this season. I would not, however, bet against either.

[MJZiggy]

Dude, she's happily married to a wonderful man. [b]You don't measure up.[\b] Time to give up and move on.

How would you know?

Sometimes the measure of a man takes more than a ruler...

[Zool]

Dude, she's happily married to a wonderful man. [b]You don't measure up.[\b] Time to give up and move on.

How would you know?

Sometimes the measure of a man takes more than a ruler...

And other times it explains all you need to know.

[sheepshead]

Dude, she's happily married to a wonderful man. You don't measure up. Time to give up and move on.

Listen, you have a habit of sticking your nose in everyone's business. I might slam stupid threads, but I happen to think it makes for a better forum. That's just my opinion. It's never personal with me, I just question things that I believe are so outrageous, they cant be ignored. Why don't you try to stay on topic, add something other than personal attacks and try to be a nice person for once?

You don't know me, you know nothing about me. If you want to know anything about me or comment about me personally, private message me. Otherwise it doesn't belong on this forum.

[Zool]

Dude, she's happily married to a wonderful man. You don't measure up. Time to give up and move on.

Listen, you have a habit of sticking your nose in everyone's business. I might slam stupid threads, but I happen to think it makes for a better forum. That's just my opinion. It's never personal with me, I just question things that I believe are so outrageous, they cant be ignored. Why don't you try to stay on topic, add something other than personal attacks and try to be a nice person for once?

You don't know me, you know nothing about me. If you want to know anything about me or comment about me personally, private message me. Otherwise it doesn't belong on this forum.

So you can say whatever you want without consequence, but no one else is? Try again skippy.

[sheepshead]

No, there's a distinct difference. My posts are not personal. I never slam the poster, just the post. Now some take it way too personal. I sure as hell don't jump on a thread with the sole purpose of lashing out at someone with personal attacks.

[Zool]

Cant have it both ways. You cant talk shit and then ask for some sort of reprieve because your mangina gets hurt. If you're respectful thats what you get in return.

[sheepshead]

Cant have it both ways. You cant talk shit and then ask for some sort of reprieve because your mangina gets hurt. If you're respectful thats what you get in return.

Read it again, youre missing the point and scroll back on this thread.

[Zool]

I might slam stupid threads, but I happen to think it makes for a better forum.

This isnt really that hard for you to get is it? If you talk shit about someone or their ideas or opinion, you're going to get retaliation. You happen to choose to talk shit about peoples opinions. They are going to talk shit about you, either the person you chose or someone else.

Also, you cant tell people what to post and not to post. They can post whatever they want.

[LL2]

I read ann, but this thread is about polls...post her article where she coyly titled it...87% of people say they would never lie to a pollster.

that said, dems poll better than they actually perform usually (I won't get into why). A national black might poll a bit better yet. All that factored in, a pisspoor exuse for a republican isn't going to win a national election. This will be a landslide obama win with mccain losing almost every swing state. He'll win texas, and a lot of the bible belt, but he won't win any of those that bush won...ohio, florida, pennsylvania...ect. If bush were running again he wouldn't win them either.

I'm afraid you might be right. Who knows...having Obama win might be a blessing in disguise. We can sit and watch how his corrupt policies screw up this country. The thing is most in the media will not print/air them though, after all Obama is their guy. I was listening to a conservative radio station here in Chicago yesterday and they were reading off the list of Hollywood donors/supporters of Obama and the list had to be a page or two long. Obama had become a liberal media/hollywood machine. I can't wait to see the 1 million people that will show up at his victory parade in downtown Chicago (at taxpayers expense for sure).

[texaspackerbacker]

No, there's a distinct difference. My posts are not personal. I never slam the poster, just the post. Now some take it way too personal. I sure as hell don't jump on a thread with the sole purpose of lashing out at someone with personal attacks.

You're dealing with really SHALLOW people, Sheepshead. How many different threads degenerate like this to personal crap? It's kinda pathetic.

[Zool]

No, there's a distinct difference. My posts are not personal. I never slam the poster, just the post. Now some take it way too personal. I sure as hell don't jump on a thread with the sole purpose of lashing out at someone with personal attacks.

You're dealing with really SHALLOW people, Sheepshead. How many different threads degenerate like this to personal crap? It's kinda pathetic.

Yet you call peoples opinions moronic on an almost daily basis.

[sheepshead]

I might slam stupid threads, but I happen to think it makes for a better forum.

This isnt really that hard for you to get is it? If you talk shit about someone or their ideas or opinion, you're going to get retaliation. You happen to choose to talk shit about peoples opinions. They are going to talk shit about you, either the person you chose or someone else.

Also, you cant tell people what to post and not to post. They can post whatever they want.

lighten up man, really

[Zool]

I was gonna tell you the same thing.