Obama and Me

[mraynrand]

I haven't seen a bit of what you've said in his ads, so how would I know if you're telling the truth? .

Why don't you read the DNC and RNC platforms.

[texaspackerbacker]

You can't see the McCain is running a very negative campaign? Let me ask you this--BASED ON WHAT HE'S PRESENTED IN HIS ADS, what is McCain planning to actually do once in office? Can you link me a single ad that gives me any of that information? I bet you'd have an easier time finding one that hints at him being Muslim without saying it outright...didn't he have a habit for a while of calling Obama by his middle name?

You didn't answer the question: How is it "negative campaigning" to bring up the guy's RECORD of voting and public statements--even if those things are so detrimental to Obama?

As for what McCain would do:

First and foremost, he will continue what has been 100% successful in preventing repeats of 9/11--including successfully completing the nation-building stage of the war in Iraq. Everything else pales to insignificance in comparison to that.

Secondly, I would like to say McCain would get the Bush tax cuts renewed and get additional cuts passed. That, however, is very unlikely, considering the rotten Dem/lib super-majority in Congress. McCain would, however, veto any tax increases other than the expiration of the Bush cuts--which, unfortunately doesn't require an affirmative vote.

Thirdly, I suppose you don't want to hear about obstruction of bad programs, but McCain would also veto any leftist take over of the health care system. There's no point in even outlining McCain's program, because it would be DOA at the Dem-controlled Congress. No problem, though, because there's really nothing wrong with what we have right now.

Fourth, McCain is committed to building The Fence. I'm not 100% sure, but I think that has already passed, and would require an affirmative vote in Congress--which McCain could veto--to derail it.

Fifth, McCain would appoint judges who would follow the Constitution, rather than try to skew and override it through leftist judicial activism.

There are probably other specifics, but that's enough for now.

Despite the incessant leftist propaganda to the contrary, the status quo is pretty damn good in this country. CHANGE, on the other hand, is almost as dirty a word as liberalism--and as promoted by Obama, would NECESSARILY be CHANGE in a downward direction.

I said from his ads. I haven't seen a bit of what you've said in his ads, so how would I know if you're telling the truth? Come to think of it, he hasn't said much about what he'd do during the debates between trying to accuse Obama of this or that and make snide remarks about him not understanding things...I have NO idea what he intends to change (except spending taxpayer money to buy out bad mortgages).

And he does keep telling us that he's not like Bush and things will change, he just neglects to tell us HOW they will change. And I'm not talking about how YOU say he will do things. I want to know when in his actual campaign he ever told you those things.

I have to admit, it rubs me the wrong way that McCain keeps harping away about the dirty word, CHANGE too. Unfortunately, the leftist mainstream media has poisoned the waters--conditioned people to want CHANGE--as ALL OUT STUPID as that is, considering how great we have it now, and how horrible the CHANGE would be that Obama would inflict on us.

Maybe you are right; Maybe McCain DOESN'T plan to change much; Maybe he's trying to spew just enough CHANGE crap to get elected, but secretly intends to keep the magnificent status quo we now have. We can always hope .........

[SkinBasket]

It just ain't that big a deal, boys.

I'm sure that would be your comment if it was McCain doing the tasteless spot and po' ol' Obama was the one sticking to public financing rules. Because you're an independent.

[MJZiggy]

I think McCain should do a spot. Then maybe he'll run out of stuff to accuse Obama of and I can find out what he actually intends to DO while in office besides freeze spending while simultaneously buying mortgages for people who walked away from them.

And I was considering voting for him until he picked a twit as a runningmate. Yes, Ted Stevens SHOULD resign his seat so she can appoint an interim senator and then run herself in the special election...

[mraynrand]

And I was considering voting for him until he picked a twit as a runningmate. .

God love, ya! I just know you made a rational decision about Sarah Palin. Thank goodness you didn't look into Biden's errors.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KiiZw_4WuM

Cost of 3 weeks in Iraq = 7 years in Afghanistan. "I tapped Joe for VP because he has foreign policy cred!" Hasta la vista Golan Heights!

[gex]

Does any one here still doubt that the majority of AMERICANS are going to vote for President Obama.

[MJZiggy]

And I was considering voting for him until he picked a twit as a runningmate. .

God love, ya! I just know you made a rational decision about Sarah Palin. Thank goodness you didn't look into Biden's errors.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KiiZw_4WuM

Cost of 3 weeks in Iraq = 7 years in Afghanistan. "I tapped Joe for VP because he has foreign policy cred!" Hasta la vista Golan Heights!

Part of the greatness of this country is that I can think that Sarah Palin is a twit without Biden ever entering into my thought process if I want. I judge her against her, not against Biden.

[mraynrand]

And I was considering voting for him until he picked a twit as a runningmate. .

God love, ya! I just know you made a rational decision about Sarah Palin. Thank goodness you didn't look into Biden's errors.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KiiZw_4WuM

Cost of 3 weeks in Iraq = 7 years in Afghanistan. "I tapped Joe for VP because he has foreign policy cred!" Hasta la vista Golan Heights!

Part of the greatness of this country is that I can think that Sarah Palin is a twit without Biden ever entering into my thought process if I want. I judge her against her, not against Biden.

It has nothing to do with the 'greatness of the country' - I think it has more to do with your willingness to buy into the portrayal of Plain by the lefty media. If you had said that you didn't like Palin because she looked out of her depth on national economic and foreign policy issues, I probably would have mostly agreed with you. But you really pulled all the information together and gave us the kind of deep insight we've come to expect: Palin is a twit. And if you don't see a reason to compare Biden and Palin, or read the DNC and RNC platforms so you 'know what McCain will do,' maybe your description of Palin could be self-applied.

[mraynrand]

Does any one here still doubt that the majority of AMERICANS are going to vote for President Obama.

Who is President Obama?

[HowardRoark]

Does any one here still doubt that the majority of AMERICANS are going to vote for President Obama.

Who is President Obama?

Maybe gex is the guy at the Electoral College.

[MJZiggy]

And I was considering voting for him until he picked a twit as a runningmate. .

God love, ya! I just know you made a rational decision about Sarah Palin. Thank goodness you didn't look into Biden's errors.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KiiZw_4WuM

Cost of 3 weeks in Iraq = 7 years in Afghanistan. "I tapped Joe for VP because he has foreign policy cred!" Hasta la vista Golan Heights!

Part of the greatness of this country is that I can think that Sarah Palin is a twit without Biden ever entering into my thought process if I want. I judge her against her, not against Biden.

It has nothing to do with the 'greatness of the country' - I think it has more to do with your willingness to buy into the portrayal of Plain by the lefty media. If you had said that you didn't like Palin because she looked out of her depth on national economic and foreign policy issues, I probably would have mostly agreed with you. But you really pulled all the information together and gave us the kind of deep insight we've come to expect: Palin is a twit. And if you don't see a reason to compare Biden and Palin, or read the DNC and RNC platforms so you 'know what McCain will do,' maybe your description of Palin could be self-applied.

I've outlined my position on why I don't like her in previous posts, if you care to read them, you are welcome to sift through all of the conservative sarcasm in this forum and find them. And I've never gotten personal with you, why do you feel the need to do so with me?

[digitaldean]

Color me pessimistic....

I think enough people in this country are fearful re: the economy and will blame the party in control of the White House. There is blame there. But there is also blame from money whores like Barney Frank and Chris Dodd who bemoan the financial mess, but did nothing to help reign one of the factors (FannieMae/FreddieMac).

A lot of Americans flat out DO NOT research the facts on the candidates and take whatever the mediia shovels them. This isn't a red herring...here's someone from ABC News lamenting the appalling bias http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=6099188&page=1

My gut tells me that Obama will win at least 300 electoral votes. Enough people are hooked on the message of "hope" and "change". Unfortunately, Obama's past political career doesn't carry as the one who can pull it off.

McCain is my least favorite GOP candidate. But he still inches out Obama.

I am like Charles Krauthammer of the Wash. Post. He states that he'd rather "lose an election than lose his bearings".

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/23/AR2008102302867.html

As for negative ads, there are tons of falsehoods on Lord Obama's side. The fear-mongering that McCain wants to cut SS benefits to seniors

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/scaring_seniors.html

Or the lame "100 year war" comment on Iraq they harp on ad nauseum.

The lack of digging by the MSM on Jeremiah Wright and William Ayers associations leave a lot to be desired as well. But they're right there to talk about Palin's wardrobe expenses (Murrow must be turning over in his grave).

McCain may pull it off, but I doubt it.

[gex]

Does any one here still doubt that the majority of AMERICANS are going to vote for President Obama.

Who is President Obama?

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Get used to saying it boys, your dog don't hunt.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I was just at the convienence store, glanced at the magazine rack: Obama is on the cover of about a third of the magazines!

How could the Republicans possibly compete with all the free publicity that guy has gotten?

I guess in an imperfect sense it is democracy in action. Obama has earned this attention by being popular. But its so superficial, an American Idol contest.

What kills me are the spinmeisters who are claiming that Obama has proved he is presidential. Mark Shields said his trip to Europe strengthed his foreign policy credentials. What bullshit. A person proves their mettle by actual experience, a campaign season is just talk and speeches. Obama has done nothing but run for President.

[mraynrand]

And I've never gotten personal with you, why do you feel the need to do so with me?

Gosh, I can't imagine.

http://www.packerrats.com/ratchat/viewtopic.php?t=14579&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=300

We sick fucks are pretty sensitive.