Definition of 'rich' changing... already

[Tyrone Bigguns]

How is B any different? Should i not be allowed to purchase alcohol on sunday? Why should it be at a different time than the rest of the week. And, yes, it did affect me..and businesses when i lived in the south (if you think i'm going to sunday brunch at 10 without a bloody mary you are crazy).

Proslytizing: Who said you? I was talking in general. But, if you don't think your posts are designed to influence or convert to your positions..then who is intellectually dishonest.

When someone talks about freedome FROM religion..they are talking MAINLY about christianity.

Abortion: incapable. LOL. Values..you and rand are so blindingly simplistic that you can't even conceive that i choose not to answer your questions not because i dont' have answers, but because it a)isn't worth my time b) IS A PRIVATE ISSUE. I fondly recall a time when people didn't pry into another's religion and values and it wasn't necessary to talk about your relationsh with jesus in order to run for office.

You are the one..since your position comes strictly from a religious viewpoint. Certainly not scientific. The real point is that why is the gov't getting involved. At no point are any of our candidates saying anything better than it should be a state's right issue. At no point is any candidate saying it is morally wrong. So, you and the rest of your brethren would be wise to drop the whole morality issue. Stop subjecting us to your morality.

We are past that now. Abortion is legal. But, that doesn't stop your friends from bombing clinics, killing doctors, intimidating women and generally acting immoral (by your standards). I, don't have to worry about morality...i just have to follow the law. Since i agree with it..why would i spend any time worrying about it, debating it, etc. The law says it is legal. I shouldn't nor should anyone have to deal with conservatives prying into our lives.

And, i have been relentless honest about abortion. I have given my stance. Which if you had read..you would find that i agree with parts of singer. Course, i still believe that examing when something becomes human is valid.

And, you would have read that i would never have a child at a catholic hospital..pretty much aligning with the utilitarian viewpoint.

I agree with you on the alcohol on Sunday thing. Get your state law changed. It can’t be that difficult. That’s not a very tough subject.

As for as my proselytizing; of course I am trying to make the best case for my side of the debate. It would seem rather pointless to do otherwise. I have never tried to sway anybody on religion however. And where does this “freedom FROM religion” come from; another new Bill of Rights?

So these questions on morals and values just aren’t worth old Ty’s time. Where exactly is that bar set for issues that are worth your time. And secondarily, since when did I bring up religion? I brought up Universal Truths and morals. Quit bringing up religion.

I do not think abortion is a religious issue. It is a science issue, you are the one who keeps bringing up Jesus AND pushing YOUR morality of the pro-abortion agenda on me. Remember Ty, no morality is a morality. And no Ty, my friends do not blow anyone or anything up. That’s Ayers.

The law of the land is that drugs are illegal, why do you bring that one up? It’s the law of the land, no need to debate it. Your intellectual dishonesty has been noted.

State law: Obviously you've never lived in the south. Your statement is so ludicrous that i almost hurt myself falling of my chair laughing.

Proslytizing: Again, what part of i'm not talking specifically about you..about conservatives and christians. You are part of that group.

Time: Nice of you to ignore part B. Pretty much SOP for you. As to what is worth my time..again, that is my issue. I dont' have to explain or justify anything to you. If i choose to discuss it i will..if not..oh well.

Universal Truths: Really? LOL. And, for you to tell me that your truths and morality dont' come from your religion/culture is laughable.

Abortion: I bring up jesus? Nope. You've got it wrong. Please review my stance. What i did do is give several defintions of life..including scientific and religious.

Friends: No one is accusing you of direct friendship. However the conservative movement is quite vocal and certainly hasn't discouraged the type of illegal acts that have been perpetrated.

But, I notice that you can't refute intimidation.

Law of the land: Of course it is the law of the land. But, why is it so? If you think it isn't based on conservative and religious values then you are crazy.

More importanly, the issue was personal freedoms and how conservatives encroach upon them. Nice bob and weave.

Conservatives intrude upon or personal lives. Simple as that.

[HowardRoark]

Universal Truths: Really? LOL. And, for you to tell me that your truths and morality dont' come from your religion/culture is laughable.

There are no truths. Don't put words in my mouth.

Law of the land: Of course it is the law of the land. But, why is it so? If you think it isn't based on conservative and religious values then you are crazy.

And your laws come from your morality.

Liberals intrude upon or personal lives. Simple as that.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Universal Truths: Really? LOL. And, for you to tell me that your truths and morality dont' come from your religion/culture is laughable.

There are no truths. Don't put words in my mouth.

Law of the land: Of course it is the law of the land. But, why is it so? If you think it isn't based on conservative and religious values then you are crazy.

And your laws come from your morality.

Liberals intrude upon or personal lives. Simple as that.

Truths? Then why did you just say that is what you talk about (universal truths)? I think you are in the full throes of ODS.

What laws do i have?

If the framers wanted us to live free..i certainly don't see anything about when to drink, why we shouldn't do drugs, etc.

And, just like that, you can't deny that conservatives intrude in our lives.

[HowardRoark]

Truths? Then why did you just say that is what you talk about (universal truths)? I think you are in the full throes of ODS.

What laws do i have?

If the framers wanted us to live free..i certainly don't see anything about when to drink, why we shouldn't do drugs, etc.

And, just like that, you can't deny that conservatives intrude in our lives.

I asked you whether or not there are universal truths. I never mentioned whether or not I think there are truths. It is obvious there are universal truths. Even you, with your dogmatic ways, know this. You just can’t admit it because it does not fit your worldview. You have mentioned that morals do not come from universal truths; rather, they come from values…..which in turn come from family, tradition, etc. A while ago I posed the question to you whether it is moral for a PLO terrorist to go blow up Jews. I never heard back from you.

Roe v. Wade is currently the law of the land in our country. I consider that law to be based on the moralities of people such as you. As much as you like to fool yourself into believing that you are some kind of Renaissance man free of morality, your no morals are a morality.