The last exit poll I saw was 97% of black people voting for Obama while only a whopping 3% voted for McCain... Was he that bad at connecting with African American voters???
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Did you see the OJ trial? Blacks celebrated the outcome, even though many believed that OJ was guilty. Why? Because it was a payback of sorts for all the times blacks had been profiled, arrested, convicted, paraded on the news, etc. etc. just for being black. If you don't think that is the reality, then you aren't black and you've never been put in cuffs and in the back of a cruiser just because you were walking across an all white college campus at the 'wrong' time.Originally posted by packers11The last exit poll I saw was 97% of black people voting for Obama while only a whopping 3% voted for McCain... Was he that bad at connecting with African American voters???
The Obama effect on many Blacks is the same - this should be obvious. I wish more of us would have voted based on Obama's character, but it's totally understandable to me that many would vote primarily because they like the idea of having a black president, and that it was their turn to get a shot at the top spot.
(Note: the OJ comparison is for comparing Black attitudes and in no way am I making ANY comparison between OJ and Obama themselves)."Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
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Re: Mccains downfall ... Not connecting with black voters?
sure, a lot of blacks voted for obama just because he was black...but a lot probably voted for him based on his character as well. did obama get 97% of the black vote during the primaries? (I don't know, I'm asking)Originally posted by mraynrandDid you see the OJ trial? Blacks celebrated the outcome, even though many believed that OJ was guilty. Why? Because it was a payback of sorts for all the times blacks had been profiled, arrested, convicted, paraded on the news, etc. etc. just for being black. If you don't think that is the reality, then you aren't black and you've never been put in cuffs and in the back of a cruiser just because you were walking across an all white college campus at the 'wrong' time.Originally posted by packers11The last exit poll I saw was 97% of black people voting for Obama while only a whopping 3% voted for McCain... Was he that bad at connecting with African American voters???
The Obama effect on many Blacks is the same - this should be obvious. I wish more of us would have voted based on Obama's character, but it's totally understandable to me that many would vote primarily because they like the idea of having a black president, and that it was their turn to get a shot at the top spot.
(Note: the OJ comparison is for comparing Black attitudes and in no way am I making ANY comparison between OJ and Obama themselves).
your statement implies that a majority or even all blacks supported OJ's acquittal - I highly doubt that... sure some saw it as vindication, perhaps especially for rodney king, but others saw it as a killer walking free...others i'm sure believed his innocence, no doubt as a result of mark fuhrman's racism. that's really not a fair comparison mr labBusting drunk drivers in Antarctica since 2006
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Like I said, many knew he was guilty and still were happy he was acquitted, because it was seen as making up for all the times the reverse happened. This is my opinion based on numbers from polling taken at the time and experience in the black community.Originally posted by falco
your statement implies that a majority or even all blacks supported OJ's acquittal - I highly doubt that... sure some saw it as vindication, perhaps especially for rodney king, but others saw it as a killer walking free...others i'm sure believed his innocence, no doubt as a result of mark fuhrman's racism. that's really not a fair comparison mr lab"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
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Re: Mccains downfall ... Not connecting with black voters?
i'll certainly concede the point, but don't see the relevance to the obama situation...i don't think black people voted for him simply because of all the years that a black man didn't get elected president. i'm sure many or most black voters did vote for obama not just to get a black man elected, but also because they believed he would best represent themOriginally posted by mraynrandLike I said, many knew he was guilty and still were happy he was acquitted, because it was seen as making up for all the times the reverse happened. This is my opinion based on numbers from polling taken at the time and experience in the black community.Originally posted by falco
your statement implies that a majority or even all blacks supported OJ's acquittal - I highly doubt that... sure some saw it as vindication, perhaps especially for rodney king, but others saw it as a killer walking free...others i'm sure believed his innocence, no doubt as a result of mark fuhrman's racism. that's really not a fair comparison mr labBusting drunk drivers in Antarctica since 2006
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Re: Mccains downfall ... Not connecting with black voters?
And why? Why moreso than Kerry - both in percentage and in overwhelmingly increased turnout? What could it be?Originally posted by falcoi don't think black people voted for him simply because of all the years that a black man didn't get elected president. i'm sure many or most black voters did vote for obama not just to get a black man elected, but also because they believed he would best represent them"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
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Re: Mccains downfall ... Not connecting with black voters?
possibly because they feel he can relate to them and better understand their situations and perspectives??Originally posted by mraynrandAnd why? Why moreso than Kerry - both in percentage and in overwhelmingly increased turnout? What could it be?Originally posted by falcoi don't think black people voted for him simply because of all the years that a black man didn't get elected president. i'm sure many or most black voters did vote for obama not just to get a black man elected, but also because they believed he would best represent them
oh no its clearly because they believe he will cut them all giant welfare checks and give them free gas cards and walmart gift cards
i disagree with you a lot of the time, but normally i respect your opinions...you're a babbling fool today thoughBusting drunk drivers in Antarctica since 2006
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What am I supposed to say?Originally posted by LL2It's so nice to see the kind words from the caring and tolerant liberal left.Originally posted by arcilitehis downfall was choosing an idiot nutjob as a VP
Sarah Palin is smart? She is not.
Sarah Palin is qualified to be VP? She is not.
i can go on and on and onI am better looking than you.
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His downfall was spending too much time criticizing Obama's ideas and not enough time talking about his own. To this day I do not have a very clear idea of what McCain's economic plan was. At least Obama was clear about his. Even though I don't agree with all of Obama's ideas, at least I understand what he's trying to do. McCain was very vague, and I can't trust that. McCain's plan might have been better than Obama's, but if that was the case he could have done a better job explaining that to America. Don't just tell us why the other guy is wrong, tell us why you are right. I think that if he'd have done a better job at that, perhaps things would have shaped up differently yesterday.Chuck Norris doesn't cut his grass, he just stares at it and dares it to grow
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