Enough Already!

[Kiwon]

Many sense a new era is here with Obama

Many Americans have had to pinch themselves: They now have an African-American president-elect.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-11-05-obamamoment_N.htm

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"I have a dream that my four children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. I have a dream today." (MLK - August 28, 1963)

And here we are in 2008. Barack Hussein Obama is elected POTUS because of his character? No. He was elected mainly because of the color of his skin.

Blacks voted for someone who looks like them and guilty whites needed to prove to the world that they are not racially biased. And now both groups are pinching themselves in disbelief as if they accomplished something significant.

It's a sad testimony to the shallowness of people that Barack Obama was elected not because of the unique traits that form the content of his character but because his hippie mother had a relationship with a Kenyan man resulting in a baby with brown skin.

Color of skin trumps content of character once again.

Sorry, folks, but that's not progress.

[MJZiggy]

Well thank you for explaining to me about my guilt. I was under the crazy impression that I voted for him because I thought he'd make a better president than McCain. It's so nice that you can think for all 68 million of us.


Enough already!!

[Kiwon]

Well thank you for explaining to me about my guilt. I was under the crazy impression that I voted for him because I thought he'd make a better president than McCain. It's so nice that you can think for all 68 million of us.


Enough already!!

So YOU get to channel 68 million people? Speak for YOURSELF and then quit talking.

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List the reasons you voted for him and let's see how substantive they are.

[MJZiggy]

I voted for him because (in no particular order)

1. I liked his plan to make sure everyone in the country was covered by healthcare

2. I thought from the things he said that he would do a better job of bringing America back into a cooperative light with the rest of the world through international cooperation and conversation. I'm sick of this country being thought of as arrogant dufuses and I'm tired of hearing from people outside that they don't care who we elect next just so long as we get rid of this guy)

3. I like his dedication to education and ensuring that opportunities for higher learning exist for all Americans who have the brains and willpower to make it through college--and the idea of having them earn it through service to their country was a brilliant way to not only get them educated, but to increase volunteerism which has been sorely lacking in this country for a long time.

4. Because he has shown me that his decisionmaking is better than his opponent. He is more in tune with the times and current technology than his counterpart who can't use a computer (not because of his war wounds, but because he never learned how to do it) and who when asked about his views on sex education in the schools replied that he didn't know anything about contraception. That leads me to a lot of other questions.

5. He didn't pick a vp candidate that reminds me so much of the guy they were trying to replace that he didn't have a prayer in losing the comparisons to Bush. The people didn't want Bush and that's not my thinking for him; that's his 30% approval rate speaking.

Remind me again what the question was?

[MJZiggy]

I forgot.

5. He is completely unflappable. No matter how hard McCain tried to rattle him, he remained ever calm while McCain got all frustrated trying to get him to lose his cool. He never did. I have far more faith that Obama can keep his cool and remain in control when dealing with foreign leaders who press him than McCain would have.

[Kiwon]

I voted for him because (in no particular order)

1. I liked his plan to make sure everyone in the country was covered by healthcare

2. I thought from the things he said that he would do a better job of bringing America back into a cooperative light with the rest of the world through international cooperation and conversation. I'm sick of this country being thought of as arrogant dufuses and I'm tired of hearing from people outside that they don't care who we elect next just so long as we get rid of this guy)

3. I like his dedication to education and ensuring that opportunities for higher learning exist for all Americans who have the brains and willpower to make it through college--and the idea of having them earn it through service to their country was a brilliant way to not only get them educated, but to increase volunteerism which has been sorely lacking in this country for a long time.

4. Because he has shown me that his decisionmaking is better than his opponent. He is more in tune with the times and current technology than his counterpart who can't use a computer (not because of his war wounds, but because he never learned how to do it) and who when asked about his views on sex education in the schools replied that he didn't know anything about contraception. That leads me to a lot of other questions.

5. He didn't pick a vp candidate that reminds me so much of the guy they were trying to replace that he didn't have a prayer in losing the comparisons to Bush. The people didn't want Bush and that's not my thinking for him; that's his 30% approval rate speaking.

Remind me again what the question was?

No white guilt assuaged? Okay, you get a pass (It's your morning and my evening and I'm not going to fight with you).

BUT here's another BS article illustrating what I'm talking about. The power of pigmentation - The health benefits of electing a Black president.

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How Obama's win may impact Americans' mental health

Improved race relations and short-term relief from soaring stress levels are among the likely after-effects of Barack Obama's Tuesday night victory, say experts in mental health and race relations.

<edit> Nobody was more surprised by the election result than Brian Ray, 49, of Chicago, who is black. " It just didn't seem feasible. ... So many whites weren't as prejudiced as we thought," Ray says.

A black president will give people a more positive view of the race, he says. "It does change how we look at the world — and how the world looks at us."

http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2008-11-05-obama-reaction_N.htm

[Kiwon]

I forgot.

5. He is completely unflappable. No matter how hard McCain tried to rattle him, he remained ever calm while McCain got all frustrated trying to get him to lose his cool. He never did. I have far more faith that Obama can keep his cool and remain in control when dealing with foreign leaders who press him than McCain would have.

Is that 2 #5's or a #5 and #6? ^^

[falco]

why even give this thread a response?

[th87]

I forgot.

5. He is completely unflappable. No matter how hard McCain tried to rattle him, he remained ever calm while McCain got all frustrated trying to get him to lose his cool. He never did. I have far more faith that Obama can keep his cool and remain in control when dealing with foreign leaders who press him than McCain would have.

Is that 2 #5's or a #5 and #6? ^^

Enough already with your whining.

[Zool]

Because Kiwon is mad as hell and he's not gonna take it anymore.

[th87]

The guy's a conservative version of those toys where you pull the strings and they say shit. Just ready-made regurgitation.

[Zool]

See and say?

A Liberal says "gimmie all your money rich guys"

[th87]

See and say?

A Liberal says "gimmie all your money rich guys"

I was thinking more along the lines of a doll, rather than that circular wheel thing. Although that would certainly fit the bill.

"Liberals are responsible for moral decay"

[Deputy Nutz]

Race played a substancial role in this election. Explain the enflux in the black vote that went 96% to Obama. Explain all the tears in the eyes of blacks around America when Barrack took the stand.

Don't bullshit yourselves in thinking that Barrack's skin color didn't have anything to do with. Don't bullshit yourselves in thinking that Barry's appearance as a whole didn't have anything to do with it. Don't bullshit yourself into thinking that Barry's candor and his "A" in Speach class didn't have anything to do with. And please don't bullshit yourself into thinking that his 4-1 spending didn't have anything to do with Barry winning this election.

Barry campaigned his ass off, and did a damn good job. How McCain ever won a senate seat and managed to hold it for 20+ years is amazing because he campaigns for shit.

[th87]

Race played a substancial role in this election. Explain the enflux in the black vote that went 96% to Obama. Explain all the tears in the eyes of blacks around America when Barrack took the stand.

Don't bullshit yourselves in thinking that Barrack's skin color didn't have anything to do with. Don't bullshit yourselves in thinking that Barry's appearance as a whole didn't have anything to do with it. Don't bullshit yourself into thinking that Barry's candor and his "A" in Speach class didn't have anything to do with. And please don't bullshit yourself into thinking that his 4-1 spending didn't have anything to do with Barry winning this election.

Barry campaigned his ass off, and did a damn good job. How McCain ever won a senate seat and managed to hold it for 20+ years is amazing because he campaigns for shit.

It would be naive to believe it didn't to an extent. But I'm sure McCain was the beneficiary of his race too.

Let's face it - the Black community has seen itself as an aggrieved party. It's completely reasonable for them to see this as an astronomically large milestone - a great opportunity to symbolically heal centuries worth of wounds, and to bask in how far we've come as a society.

It also doesn't hurt that Obama represented Black interests the best (despite what Tex thinks). Liberals are always seen as being more in touch with urban populations, minorities, and the poor. Also, many Black people distrusted Reagan, and Bush-Dole-Bush-McCain represented newer versions of him.

Lots of factors.